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| Anyone Ever Dated A TRUE Narcissist?
Posted: 2/26/2007 12:31:24 PM | I don't know sofish...I think that, for myself, I put in the effort that most commited married people should to get things to work. In hindsight, do I think I should have cut and run sooner? Absolutely. But I think thats normal and most married people hang in longer than they should.
I can't see the correlation so much for myself..but I can see how that my be right for SOME s/o's of people with NPD. It definitely makes sense. | |
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Posted: 2/26/2007 12:39:55 PM | yeah quadmom, i wasnt thinking of you....you don't come off as someone unsure of themselves or still struggling. seems like you've done all the hard work and know what is what. which is why i found your thread quite helpful. i just now, in the past 6 weeks, realized what this mans issue was...ie, that he had NPD...what a bizarre way i found out too...
anyhow i was thinking more about the other postsers who seem to have had more than one encounter with this type of individual. if its become a pattern, then they need to look harder into themselves and why they are ending up with NPDs.
i myself have only had one, but to be sure i dont have another, i have to work on myself as i do have traits that would attract an NPD. you know what kind of sucks? an NPD will never really be alone, they'll always find women who want to adore them or save them cause i think its a nurturing thing to do and thats a womans nature. | |
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Posted: 2/26/2007 2:04:02 PM | Nice theory ... except for what my counsellor tells of my mental health. Really, a narcissist is cunning enough to work her way in well before the mask comes off for even the most balanced of guys (and yes, they DO come in the female variety)
Darned rose-coloured glasses!
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Posted: 2/26/2007 2:50:31 PM |
Nice theory ... except for what my counsellor tells of my mental health. Really, a narcissist is cunning enough to work her way in well before the mask comes off for even the most balanced of guys (and yes, they DO come in the female variety)
Darned rose-coloured glasses!
Steve
Yep, they come in female too, just more rare.
A narcissist can fool experts.
Alcohol is used to help develop their false sense of self. They aren't necessarily alcoholics.
The perpetual lying and projection is rampant. | |
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Posted: 2/26/2007 2:56:10 PM |
myself have only had one, but to be sure i dont have another, i have to work on myself as i do have traits that would attract an NPD. you know what kind of sucks? an NPD will never really be alone, they'll always find women who want to adore them or save them cause i think its a nurturing thing to do and thats a womans nature.
I am so grateful I happened upon this thread. Seeing the responses from everyone makes me feel so "less stupid", not alone and has made me remember just how resilient and lucky I am to be where I am now!!! | |
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Posted: 2/26/2007 3:19:40 PM | | Nope, never dated anyone with this mental disorder. I wouldn't tolerate it. Narcissism is just too much to bear.... | |
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Posted: 2/26/2007 3:52:21 PM | Happygal, these folks are "slick" and they are able to fool even some experts, BUT, you can also spot a few "SIGNALS"-- there are some great web sites with lots of info on personality disorders, not just NPD, and many times these folks will have other disorders as well and so if you EDUCATE yourself what to look for, and YOU are healthy at setting "boundaries" (i.e what you will tolerate in another individual and what you won't) it gets easier to spot them.
Like another poster said, the "rose colored glasses"--I had a therapyst tell me once I had the biggest, thickest pair she had ever seen! I took a hammer to them!  Still get fooled from time to time, but spot MOST of them pretty soon now--it helps increase my odds for getting hooked in again! Not always catch on before they at least hurt my feelings, but so far haven't married any. I came close a time or two, and can't even imagine the pain of years of that~! | |
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Posted: 2/26/2007 3:54:30 PM | After reading the posts here, I believe most are confusing Narcissism with other "disorders," e.g., arrogance. And the claim by at least one poster that the condition can be treated with medication provides further evidence of a fundamental misunderstanding, unless they mean medicating the person to the point of incoherence, that, and the repeated use of the letters NPD suggest that their "research" has consisted merely of consulting one or another of the myriad politically correct organs of communication published for the benefit of women in order to further secure their confidence in sustaining the present mode of living they are now practicing. Also, it is not narcisistic persons who easily are able to fool others, including "experts," but sociopaths; a narcisistic individual stands out like a nude John Holmes at a church picnic.
The men who are described here seem to be suffering more from an unmitigated ego rather than narcisism. There is a difference (cf. the discription of Narcisist from the Greek myths given by one poster here and then contrast that with your discription of the men described here, also, contrast Narcisis admiring himself in the mirror with, say, George W. Bush's or a top Fortune 500 executive's desire to achieve their goals no matter the cost to their country, family, other people, etc.
Many, possibly most, contemporary,attractive women under 40 are extremely narcissistic. This is not really their fault, rather a result of modern society and its fixation on beauty and sex. The result is that many attractive women "dis" any and every man (or woman, I suppose) whom they feel they have the God-given right to put in their place. For example, the often obnoxious and downright rude blow-offs dished out to poor smucks who have the temerity to so much as approach them without first obtaining permission to do so. A cursory glance at many profiles will further confirm this, e.g., provacative poses in bikini tops and bottoms along with the admonition that no man should even dare to express an interest in them as dating material, let along a sexual liason. Then there are the women who are constantly being "stalked" and messaged against their wishes, and thus feel the need to constantly start one thread after another describing their ongoing persecution and ordeals at the hands of men who they have more often than not lied to and decieved, but, like a boxing announcer who only tells 40% of what one fighter is doing, never tell the whole story and thus create a false impression in the minds of those to whom they are seeking sympathy. There are many other examples, one has only to peruse these forums.
Thanks so much Sofish! I really do appreciate someone undertanding where I'm coming from.
I thought this place was about open dialog and understanding. I can talk to my mother in law if I want to be analyzed.
I was telling my mother last night that I am just so...relieved to find out that there are so many others who went through the same pattern of mental abuse. Because thats what it is, make no mistake. To this point, I thought that perhaps I was to blame for putting up with it at all and for being sucked in. I know now that these people are master manipulaters and for an honest person such as myself, there was no way to even imagine what he was capable of.
This particular woman, who keeps posting on this thread, and who is, as is obvious from the quote I cite above, craving reasurance and comfort from others, is in fact displaying a mild form of narcisism herself, but will doubtlessly hotly deny it and will be defended by a chorus of other women. | |
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Posted: 2/26/2007 4:16:59 PM | ...And the claim by at least one poster that the condition can be treated with medication provides....
The condition cannot be cured, but some of its less agreeable traits can be controlled (treated/masked/managed) with anti-depressants or other chemical strait jackets - agreed, just didn't feel the need to go into detail.
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Posted: 2/26/2007 4:45:20 PM | If you have ever been around a teenager, they are the ultimate egotist, and they are narcissist, but that is the "phase" they are going through, it is NOT a disorder. A personality disorder is just that--a real honest to gosh DISORDER on the max. Of course there are degrees--some bad, and some REALLY BAD~! But just being a "know it all" and a bit arrogant is not the same thing as having a DISORDER--you can just be a butt and still not qualify as having a DISORDER.
There are some medications that are lately being tried for sociopaths and NPD and other personality disorders, but nothing is a "cure" or even a complete "control"-- I looked up some articles on the net last night of clinical experiments that are published in medical journals and in the double-blind trials, they thought there MIGHT be some help with medications, but it isn't much.
NPD is on the same continuium with psychopath/sociopath (and no, I don't want to get into the debate about the correct terminology, for practical purposes psycho/socio path are functionally the same thing) and again, there is a continuium of from BAD to WORSE to WORST. Some, like Charlie Manson can usually be spotted pretty easily, but others like TED BUNDY hide theirs very well, which is what makes the Teds more dangerous than the Charlies of this world for your "average" person.
Criminal and pseudo or quasi-criminal behavior (being bad but not actually breaking the law so you go to jail) are common elements with these people--mental abuse, verbal abuse, being one person in public  and someone else completely when no one else is around to witness it except the victim of your choice that day.
This is not something that can be cured because it is the world that is out of step, not them, as far as they are concerned, and since they are the center of the universe and their opinion is the ONLY one that counts, then they don't want to be cured, and they go on their merry way until if and when they do something that lands them in prison. Most don't ever go to prison, though. But a few become serial killers. I could name plenty from John Wayne Gacy on up or down.
People who have lived and/or worked with these folks know the torment they can do, and the shattered lives and hearts they have left behind. Quadmom can testify and I bet there are others here as well. This isn't just being a standard "know it all" these people take it to the limits and do more than just be an irritation. | |
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Posted: 2/26/2007 5:43:16 PM | ^^ you got that right!
Its like...not allowing for ANY other opinion..times ....a thousand. They literally cannot conceive of being in the wrong about anything. They might TELL you they were..but its a means to an end.
And as for the person that said they believed their ex did love them at one point....he didn't have NPD if thats the case. They aren't capable of real emotion. Certainly not love.
For those of you who have had a romantic relationship (of sorts) with these people, can you tell me, if you are involved with someone now, did you find that you went for a person that is the DIRECT opposite. Honest to a fault...very loving and willing to admit it when they are wrongdoing immediately? Those types of qualities. | |
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Posted: 2/26/2007 6:36:02 PM | quadmom, i had a guy like that BEFORE the NPD guy. I haven't gotten involved with anybody since him...but yes, the type of man you described is what I'd look for again, he was the love of my life. Not easy to find though, by now most of that type are taken :)
and @ rpburnsusa....dood, can you say run-on-sentence? seriously, you make some good points about women these days being 'narcissistic'. but so are men...the men posing with their juiced up chests and that ridiculous finger to their lips look pathetic. some men i have dated spend more time in the br than me. and that's just as disturbing as the women who flaunt their cleaveage and purse their collagen lips and say 'looking for my soulmate'. anyway the point is that NPD is a real personality disorder in the DSM IV. We are not just talking about vanity or conceit or self-absorption even. It's a recognized disorder treated clinicly by psychiatrists. the title of the thread was TRUE narcissists. We use narcissitic as an adjective to describe someone vain...but most of us here are talking about men and women with true Narcissistic Personality Disorder...the main symptom not being vanity, but an inablity to empathize with others and un unrealistic self image...and YES George Bush is a great example, he probably does have NPD...as do many CEOs. To try and live up to their self-images of great importance, they often do pursue fame or power relentlessly, and actually can be quite charming men...ask any of the women here...very charming. But like Bush...they don't feel for others, nothing. Bush probably is one, i've never seen him ever look remorseful over the dead americans or iraqis. but i don't know, thats a harsh judement that i wouldnt make......i'll let john stewart decide.
i haven't heard of medication either...but i suppose wolf is right that anti-depressants could have some effect on NPDs symptoms? i dont know...i guess it depends if the symptoms are biochemical in nature or not? in depression anger, apathy, irritability have a biochemical foundation...these symptoms in an NPD are usually of psychological origin I think. so I don't know if something like serotonin inhibitors would have efefct..does anybody know about this? | |
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Posted: 2/26/2007 7:13:03 PM | Sofish- I got one. Actually, he's the second I've found in my life and I won't be stupid enough to let him go this time!
This guy tells me if he's even FEELING something he considers not in my best interest. He looks out for ME, and he loves my kids while their father CLAIMS to but seems incapable of following the claim with behavior to solidify it.
Ofcourse, my ex is DYING to cast aspersions on him...I hear it everytime I have the misfortune of stomaching him while he visits the kids. "You don't know who this guy is and you have him around MY kids." or even better "He's just the same as every other guy. You were in love with ME before remember?" Idiotic, self centered, egotistical...well, you get the point, I'm sure.
I look at him and laugh..literally. Right in his face. Told him the other day that just because he wouldn't know the truth if it crawled up his behind, doesn't mean every man is the same and I DESERVE some happiness so he can shut his trap.
He grumbled for a bit, but then slunk away like the dog he is. | |
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Posted: 2/26/2007 8:17:23 PM | quadmom, i have to know, how did you meet the new one? was it online?
i think all men worry that the new man in your life will gain the affection of the kids...thats kind of normal...whats not normal is him comparing the way he FOOLED you about what kind of person he was and trying to paint the new guy with the same brush....talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face! but you know, it almost sounds like he had an insight into himself? | |
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Posted: 2/26/2007 8:46:40 PM | This thread certainly made me feel better, at least not so much like I'm the only sucker in the world!
Someone said the narcissist may feel isolated and alone, but it's always someone else's fault. I'm curious about that. DO they ever really feel alone, or is it just lip service to push a button? Because they are the center of the world, everything revolves around them. The X had virtually no friends, and never seemed to notice or want them. Adoration at a distance, with me as his personal cheerleader seemed to be all he needed. The last few years he seemed to be getting what he needed off the internet, so he didn't need me any more.
Again, he said all the right things, seemed very kind and loving and warm. It wasn't until I was out from under the spell I looked back and could realize it was all words, with a few things thrown in here and there to keep me beliving in him. He's a lot more dangerous than the ones that show anger. Over the last year there was more and more of his true self coming through, but it had been 14 years, I was well brain washed. He had an extreme talent of bringing me some little thoughtful thing, like candy or a movie I wanted, when I was getting a little too aware, and I would think, awww, how sweet! Brother! The conditions I was living under, well, third world countries do better. But I never blamed him for that, I blamed the fact I was too sick to work and bring in my share of the money. Again, looking back, I did mostly bring in enough to not cost him a dime. When I started this relationship, I was outgoing and independent. But there were a lot of bad things going on in my life at the time, which obviously made me needy enough to put up with behavior I never would have normally. You don't have to be Borderline Personality, I'm not, yes, that IS an official diagnosis. There are things from my life that made me a perfect target, but it can be a simple as going through a bad period of life, or just being trained, as a female, that we are supposed to be nurturing.
I'm pretty sure I knew a female narcissist for awhile, or she had a lot of the traits. She too came across at first as sweet, caring and charming. She should have had a hurricane named after her, she left such a swath of destruction behind her. I met two of her ex husbands, and they both seemed like very nice, caring men. I think they had tried to "rescue" her. She was still living with and mooching off the last one when I met her. Her attitude towards her young son is what makes me think she was a narcissist, she luckily didn't have custody, didn't want it. But she would make a big deal about how much she loved him and missed him, but I never once saw her show any actual emotion about him, and most of the time she seemed to forget him entirely. When she had accidently become pregnant with her husband, he had to PAY her to have the baby. She bragged about that, that she made him give her money not to abort. But she sure wasn't going to stick around and raise the baby, so she divorced him as soon as the baby was born...and got alimony of course. Whew! She went through a few of my male friends too, and they were very sweet men. | |
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Posted: 2/26/2007 9:54:01 PM | when one has been wounded by anyone with any personality disorder doing an "emotional autopsy" of the relationship is always a good idea. It helps you focus on what YOU did to let yourself get duped and involved with this person, also, it shows you where you failed in setting appropriate boundaries in the relationship, where you let them "get away with this behavior" and allowed them to convince you that you were the "one to blame."
These people can NOT do this in a relationship unless you ALLOW it. I used to work with battered women at a shelter--these women 90% of the time with broken teeth, black eyes, etc. would go BACK to these creeps because THEY HAD ALLOWED the guy to convince them deep in their soul that (a) they could make him happy (b) that it was their responsibiolity to make him happy (c) they deserved what the got because they had "failed" somehow in a and b.
No one is responsible for anyone else's happiness (we are talking about adults here) and no one is obligated to allow inappropriate behavior. I am responsible for my own happiness. If I enjoy your company or love you and you love me that is great we will be happy TOGETHER.
I am obligated to treat you with RESPECT. You are NOT obligated to allow me to treat you poorly, say nasty things to you just because I am angry at you, etc. repeatedly just because I say afterwards "I'm sorry."
There are some things that "I'm sorry" shouldn't "fix"--"I'm sorry I broke your nose cause you were late with supper"---thanks for the apology, officer please get him out of here.
"I'm sorry I called you a hateful bi#ch"--I appreciate your apology, but this is not the kind of language I will tolerate, now or in the future. I think we should see about some joint counseling."
"I'm sorry I got drunk last night and wrecked the car and spent the rent money I'll never do it again." I appreciate the apology, but this is not the kind of behavior I expect from my wife/husband/S/O, I will make us an appointment with AA and Alanon, if you are not willing to go, then I am afraid I you will have to make other arrangements for a place to sleep tonight."
"I'm sorry I did XXX, but I was just so mad I lost my temper"--I appreciate your apology, but I think we need to arrange for some anger management classes for you. I can't feel safe when I think you might explode in anger."
I could go on, but I am sure You get the idea--boundaries that are FIRMLY set are appropriate and reasonable and FIRM, you don't give in. This will drive some people away, and OH WELL, I hope the door doesn't hit them in the butt on their way out, because if it drives people away from you because you willnot tolerate abuse of ANY KIND, you have not lost a thing.   You have gained peace and self respect.
YOu may not gain their respect, but you have not put up with this kind of escalating behavior for years before you get out of the relationship.
You can watch one episode of Jerry Springer and see the kind of behavior REAL people do to each other. You are not obligated to LIVE like those people either do or pretend to do.
Notice that all the replies to the "I'm sorry I did such and such" are I messages. I think, I feel, I appreciate... this calms most folks down some, but not all.
Set appropriate boundaries of what behaviors you expect from your S/O--be specific-- like
Works steady, no drugs, helps clean kitchen at night, picks up own socks, etc. and then talk to them about it. Use I messages. "I would like you to pick up your own socks, John." If they agree to do that, then expect them to. Don't nag, just make your expectations realistic and NON confrontational but firm. Good luck. | |
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Posted: 2/26/2007 10:13:39 PM | wildflower...you describe a true narcissist. the part about having few or no friends, completely right. and right again about everything revolving around them, they are the earth and the rest of us are mere satellites. but they do need at least one ''cheerleader" in real life....who doesn't usually last. 14 yrs is quite a long time, they usually toss you after you have served their purpose and failed as an object of their idealized or perfect woman who deserves them.
and the internet is truely the perfect place for them to idealize and be idolized. i mean isn't everyone better online than in person? because we project an ideal image of them too....not just the narcissist... its like we're doing half the work for them.
BUT...there is a BUT. since the internet is such a haven for this type...they have to mind who they are connecting with. in my case, the NPD guy i knew met a person more troubled than himself...someone beyond a narcissist....
so ladies, you never know, these men who treat us so cruelly might reap what they sow. my NPD guy was taken for the worst ride of his life by the new 'cheerleader' in his life. and it might have been the best possible 'therapy' he could have gotten. | |
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Posted: 2/27/2007 12:33:15 AM | whats not normal is him comparing the way he FOOLED you about what kind of person he was and trying to paint the new guy with the same brush
Ooh, Sofish. The stories I could tell. This is the same man that told me not 4 days ago that "it doesn't matter how many times I cheated on you..I never brought anyone around our kids" And in HIS mind, he believes thats an effective way to bring his point home to me. HE is above having to be accountable for his actions, but I am expected to live life according to HIS sense of right and wrong. How dare I form a relationship with someone AFTER we split??? lol. While he steadfastly defends his actions DURING the marriage. Incredible. Ofcourse, once I became aware of his disorder and how he was manipulating me, the rose colored glasses were off and he was in an endless search to find another "supplier" or cheerleader as you all have been calling it.
I spoke with a girl that he has been TRYING to scam for quite some time evidently. Out of boredom the other night, I thought I'd entertain myself by seeing what he's been up to while under the guise of spending time with his children while I'm not home. The list of sites he frequents was no suprise....and just for kicks, I decided to contact one of the poor ladies he has been aiming for on MySpace. Sent her a very polite note about how I figured he was working her and gave her a brief description of who he really is. Including what I figured he was TELLING her compared with the truth. The girl was astonished. Said I'd hit it on the head...from his lies about his occupation (his hook has always been that he is an "entrepaneur" to his DENYING HIS OWN CHILDREN.
This man told the woman that he had a son who DIED and one daughter! The death thing is another one of his "pity me because my life has been soooo tragic" lines. I was..well, not as suprised as I may have been years ago. But still some what disgusted that he would not only DENY his other children, but say that one of them had died! Its unthinkable to me to even put that type of ....horror out into the universe lest it manifest in some way. This poor boy is 12 yrs old...and has called NUMEROUS times to try to form some type of relationship with his dad. I thought he would be overjoyed since the version of the story that HE had always told me was that the boy's mother refused contact. I've given him messages steadily..."your son is calling for you. you can use my phone to call him back". To no avail. That told me more than anything else he ever did exactly WHO he is and WHAT he is capable of. His mother has told me that he even told a woman he was after several years ago that both his parents were dead and had perished in a fire. Unbelievable. The lengths he will go to to come across as strong, and worthy of your support, admiration, and unconditional love.
I have to deal with him again tomorrow. The final divorce document will reduce his visitation to twice per week, of which I am grateful. I feel confident that one day, soon, he will disappear from our lives entirely. Its his pattern. As soon as he finds another woman who is willing to "supply" him, he'll be gone. Hopefully she is FAR, far away.
I'm asking myself if I will out him in yet another lie when I see him. I doubt it. What would be the point? And I know how he will react. Just as others here have stated, once confronted with irrefutable evidence of yet another deception, he'll bolt. I have no doubt of it. Maybe I'll do it just for kicks and let you all know later. 
Sofish- yes, I actually met my guy here on POF! A truly incredible soul who actually has a real belief system in a higher power. Something that should have warned me off the ex. This poor man has hung in there while I worked out the paranoia that is a legacy of dealing with someone with NPD. He's shown patience, honesty and unconditional support instead of asking those things of me without giving anything in return. It feels great. | |
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Posted: 2/27/2007 1:16:45 AM | Heres some extra info, for those whom have never heard the term:
A Horrifying Peek Inside the Narcissist's Book of Relationship Rules
Involved with a Narcissist and wish you could hear straight up what they want and need in a relationship? Here's your chance...
1. This relationship is about me, and what I need. Period.
2. Your worth to me lies only in how well you meet my needs.
3. If you have needs that don't match mine, or require changes on my part keep them to yourself.
4. Some of my needs do not include you - and in fact include other people I plan to see on the side, and are none of your business. If this hurts you, then understand that your pain is your business to keep to yourself and your responsibility to take care of.
5. You will love, honor and obey me and I will do the same for you: only if things continue to go 100% my way.
6. I will talk to you about things if and when I feel like it. Don't try to get me to 'talk' if I don't come to you first about something.
7. I take the blame for nothing.
Repercussions: Should you violate my rules in any way, shape or form I reserve the right to berate you, guilt trip you, or use other forms of emotional blackmail until you apologize for breaking my rules. If you insist on making things go your way at the expense of my needs being met 100%, I will leave you. As long as you keep me happy, things go 100% my way, and I don't have to deal with any of your needs or concerns we will be a happy couple.
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Posted: 2/27/2007 1:27:14 AM | Yeah.. I almost married someone who was Narcissistic. It got to the point where I was putting everything into the relationship.. and I mean everything.. and God forbid I had a need. If I wanted to talk about something going on in my life.. he knew everything that would change that.. and God knows he was never happy with hearing about it. My issues were mere puddles compared to his oceans of issues. Can you imagine someone telling you to go to your room if they didn't want to hear anything you had to say? They do manipulate and they do have to be in control of you and everyone around you. They have to be the center. Your world has to revolve around them or they will send you to your room.. LoL! I wasn't about to go there with him.. good thing it was a long distant relationship and I didn't move there with him and marry him. What broke us up was the Bible. He was wrong about a bit of information out of it.. and I tried to tell him and busted out in all kinds of mad. He wouldn't even listen to what I had about the subject. What set me off was he was so nasty about it.. and a few days later he wanted to start talking to me again. He didn't even apologize for any of it.. he just gave excuses why he acted that way.. and then forgot half of what he said.
YIKES.. I had to end it. As much as I thought I loved him.. I just couldn't go through with it.
Besides.. him saying he would send me to my room really rubbed me the wrong way.
That's not the kind of relationship I want.. and it shouldn't be that way for anyone!
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Posted: 2/27/2007 5:40:53 AM | TWEETY OMG I did the same exact thing gave him a SECOND chance went to court to get money he owed me!!!!!too funny I was reading your post and said NO SIR!!!! lol I was sooo p... the first time but I still Lovvvved him PLEASE!! so I did it again
This thread is soooo true I have heard the term and knew little about the diorder man oh man ,he has it poor guy,the trauma for him was losing his Love of his life first wife she got sick of his crap and grew up and moved on sooo now its his duty to go around being a selfish d... and disregarding everything but what important to HIM ...soulless as sad as that sounds to me is true, no emotion everything is faked they give you just enought o hang in there ...the last draw was when he thought he was gonna cheat on me and I found out,he gets comfortable but then something happens and he moves on...he said also I dont deserve you,I read that in a privous post, and I tried to be his everything turned myself inside out for his love looking back it will only be 2 months..TODAY omg 2 months today he left...I have learned from this I still miss his smile his soft ways etc I will always love him to some degree but he loves only one and I find it sooo very sad..Thanks for this enlightenment!!good luck to you all God Bless | |
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Posted: 2/27/2007 6:00:01 AM | | OXDrover well said!!!! I am in the process of the healing stage...funny how some people cant be alone with themselves.. hopping from one destructive relationship to another IVE done it over and over,its not comfortable to be in the process of really LOOKING at yourself but sooo needed and obsolutley neccisarry Thank so much for your post!jewel sorry my spelling su...! | |
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| Anyone Ever Dated A TRUE Narcissist?
Posted: 2/27/2007 6:11:54 AM | | Thanks for the book of How toos for Narcissistic People....I was married to one also and just realized it OMG That is toooo sad..No wonder Im so messed up but NEVER say never Im working on it folks after all this time..I SEES THE LIGHT!!!!!sad .sad topic and I know so many still living the nightmare!! | |
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