| The chickens AND the eggs
Posted: 6/14/2008 10:10:47 PM | Hey crazy.. Your completely right, the bigger picture.
I consider myself an animal lover, greenie, tree hugging humanitarian. So on that note I googled , systematic torture... ( seem to google alot today! lol)
whilst doing so I did not find many about chickens, fowl, ducks, elepants or pigs ... but I did find,
Uganda
Iraq
Sudanese
Timor
Tibet ...... you know it is a scary and very real list.
I see your point. Millions of mothers w babies dying dont really care about chickens. Its a fair point. Perspective is a good thing.
I too will enjoy my fresh free range eggs from my happy lil chickens. My bacon nice, thick and crispy too, mushrooms - nothing like good fungus! but I will be thankful I am here and reasonably healthy. Thanks for the reality check. | |
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| The chickens AND the eggs
Posted: 6/15/2008 1:32:46 AM |
Millions of mothers w babies dying dont really care about chickens. Its a fair point. Perspective is a good thing.
It's interesting you say that. As I've said previously on this thread, when my husband was dying he started to care about this sort of thing more. It surprised me, cos his life had turned to sh1t and was going to end, and yet he seemed to develop a heightened awareness of how finding room for simple kindness in your heart was what being human should be all about. As he became more reflective, it dawned on him how unthinking most people are about the indirect harm they cause animals by simply not caring.
Perspective is indeed important, especially when you realise that it's not the suffering people in Uganda and Iraq who are keeping chooks in cruel conditions to supply Australia with eggs, it's Australians. In my mind it's not logical to use the suffering of others as an excuse for us to continue being cruel to animals, but then I am not looking for any.
Battery hens aren't all that matter in ths world, but I think most people have big enough hearts, and brains, to care about more than one issue at a time. This particular thread just happens to be about battery hens. | |
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| The chickens AND the eggs
Posted: 6/15/2008 4:13:03 AM |
Battery hens aren't all that matter in the world, but I think most people have big enough hearts, and brains, to care about more than one issue at a time.
Do you care about HIV? Cancer? The billion or so starving Africans, Asians, South Americans? The homeless people from all the hurricanes, earthquakes and floodings?
What about the homeless people in your city? What about the victims of domestic violence? The child victims of molestation? The orphans? Little Timmy with that nasty cough?
I worry about them. I worry about chickens too. I have my priorities in order though- people come first. I donate my time and money to charities that help Australians. When every Australian is happy, then I will look at the rest of the world. When the world is happy, then I will worry about chickens. I think it is a bit sick really that you put chickens above the downtrodden Australians, let alone all the other humans.
I have had four eggs and about a kilo of chicken in the last 48 hours. I feel no remorse. | |
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| The chickens AND the eggs
Posted: 6/15/2008 4:49:39 AM |
I worry about them. I worry about chickens too. I have my priorities in order though- people come first. I donate my time and money to charities that help Australians. When every Australian is happy, then I will look at the rest of the world. When the world is happy, then I will worry about chickens. I think it is a bit sick really that you put chickens above the downtrodden Australians, let alone all the other humans.
I think maybe you have misinterpreted the quote you are referencing, to me it reads that most people care about more than one thing not that they put chickens above humans.
It has been my experience that those of us that are involved in animal rights issues are generally also involved in human rights issues.
Then again maybe you did interpret the quote correctly and you're just picking a fight | |
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| The chickens AND the eggs
Posted: 6/15/2008 5:09:25 AM | | i totally agree that there is a big difference between caring about animals and holding them above human beings and that it is possible for a person to support more then one cause. It would be like someone saying that they gave money to prostate cancer research and then another person interpreting that as implying that people that get HIV aren't important. | |
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| The chickens AND the eggs
Posted: 6/15/2008 7:13:30 AM | Curiously your quite right.
It is great hey, how everyone can add their points of views . I think people who care about animals naturally nuture. And Crazy nutures by protection. His perspective is perfect for him, and he made it clear. Good work I say.
Still cuddling my favorite chicken over morning coffee in the morning. lol
cue super hero theme... Capn V flys leaps and bounds to ward of evil perils in the world to save yet a nother bohemiam harem from slavery to warlords. | |
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| The chickens AND the eggs
Posted: 6/15/2008 7:31:48 AM |
What about the homeless people in your city? What about the victims of domestic violence? The child victims of molestation? The orphans? Little Timmy with that nasty cough?
All valid concerns Crazytimes.
Maybe you could start a thread on those, eh.  | |
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| The chickens AND the eggs
Posted: 6/15/2008 11:06:24 AM |
Girls with beaks so mutilated are unable to peck morsels off the ground or catch insects like normal chooks
Agree with everything said about free range eggs and have been doing it for years. Would like to see a legal definition of what free range is. Far as I can make out from viewing a commercial egg enterprise recently, free range simply means non battery. Another con job me thinks, hidden in fine print, a guise for extra profits with sod all extra care. Made me sick to my stomach and I'm not a queasy person..
Re quote top line. Bet the insects are grateful. But no one cares about them do they? Point being, it all depends where we're coming from. The smaller or dumber it is, the more contemptuous we are of it. | |
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| The chickens AND the eggs
Posted: 6/15/2008 11:54:47 PM |
All valid concerns Crazytimes.
Maybe you could start a thread on those, eh. That violates some of the fundamentals of my existence. | |
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