lmnop
| | Joined: 12/11/2006
Msg: 26 | |
| | Firefighters... Good, bad, or ugly?Page 2 of 7 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7) | eno,
Although I have not seen statistics of divorce rates of public servants, it can take it's toll if the spouse is not willing to listen and understand to the work-related stress associated with the profession.
It does take a rare breed to match up and go with the flow with the life of a fire-fighter or police officer...etc. If the mate/spouse is not willing to work to understand the demands that are placed on you...then you are destined for failure.
On the flip side of the coin, the professional partner in the relationship must keep communications open to allow complete understanding of their mate so they can help, talk, relate to the work-related ups and downs.
I came, I spewed, now you know!  | |
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| Firefighters... Good, bad, or ugly?
Posted: 2/23/2007 7:46:00 PM |
Here's what I wonder- do you think firefighters mess around any more than any men (or women for that matter) in any other occupation? Has anyone ever seen any stats or studies into the matter? Is the generalization warranted or is just because it's a high profile job?
I don't think firefighters mess around anymore than other individuals. I think for one...television paints a poor picture of *the life of a firefighter* showing them as guys that have a mousy wife at home with an arm full of children while the husband cheats by attracting women with the uniform.
I also believe that this misconception is also painted by the actual wives/husbands of these professionals. I say this because alot of spouses aren't able to handle the closeness between these professionals and co-workers of the opposite sex. I should know because it was basically the demise of my marriage. I would be on duty for 24+ hour shifts and we all slept at the station. Sometimes, I'd fall asleep on the couch with a male co-worker or we'd end up sleeping in the same room {bunk-beds} mind you. Because of all we've experienced together we understood each other better than our spouses did and that made for a bad jealous situation.
JMO from my experiences. Take it for what's it worth  | |
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Posted: 2/23/2007 7:46:46 PM | I think like anything else it will be subjective. I wouldn't have a big problem with my partner being a firefighter, although to be honest I would worry he would get hurt or killed on duty. However, I wouldn't let it stop me being with someone.
You just have to look around at all the male firefighter calendars and postcards to see a lot of women would like it! | |
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Eno75
| | Joined: 11/3/2006
Msg: 29 | |
| Firefighters... Good, bad, or ugly?
Posted: 2/23/2007 7:55:57 PM | Really though, a person could get killed on their way to work too right? I guess if life were a game of Russian Roulette, we just load a couple extra chambers.
And about buying the uniform at the shop thing- somehow, I think the attraction is in what the uniform represents ie: service, honour and integrity moreso than how it fits. At least, that's what I'm hoping.
Yes? No?
If not- I guess I'm going to the shop to get me a doc's uniform. Or... a jet pilot! Yes. Tomorrow, my thread title will be "Pilots... good, bad, ugly?" I think I'd look good in a G-suit.
Eno. | |
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Posted: 2/23/2007 8:06:38 PM | ENO...you've asked the questions so far. Let me ask you this: Do you think the lifestyle of a firefighter consists of cheating? Do you feel you get more attention as a firefighter? Although, I think that question was answered based on some of the replies to your thread...lol.
Honestly...what is your opinion of this scope of things ? | |
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Eno75
| | Joined: 11/3/2006
Msg: 31 | |
| Firefighters... Good, bad, or ugly?
Posted: 2/23/2007 8:19:05 PM | Do I get more attention as a firefighter... Tough to say? I think women in general tend to favour someone who is confident, strong, and compassionate with degrees of intelligence and integrity. I think being a fireman really helped me to develop a lot of those qualities in myself, and gives me an outlet for them in a natural setting. Few jobs really tax all of those qualities every day and stimulate continuous development. I can say one thing- I'm a different man now... and thank god for that!
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SaucyM
| | Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 32 | |
| Firefighters... Good, bad, or ugly?
Posted: 2/23/2007 8:39:30 PM | It's good.....
First of all Dude's gainfully employed...The whole man-in-uniform thing, the nobleness of the job, and the bonus of the 'hot bod' that goes with the job requirement... women would love to say that their man is a firefighter.
I actually met one on here....he claimed to want 'long term' but he was really looking for an 'intimate encounter' which thankfully I didnt reciprocate.
Overall I'll say that.....its an awesome job and I wouldnt shy away from a firefighter..
Saucy!
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lmnop
| | Joined: 12/11/2006
Msg: 33 | |
| Firefighters... Good, bad, or ugly?
Posted: 2/23/2007 9:33:58 PM | Eno...I have sat back to realize exactly what you are going for and this has kind of turned into a self-serving post. You already know and realize the respect of the majority of us out there. Seemingly you are asking for the ultimate now...and not willing to place yourself out there.
POF has set the ground-work...exhuberate your confidance and take the first step.  | |
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Posted: 2/23/2007 9:44:19 PM | | Geeee, I sound old, but doesn't matter about the profession. All down to the guy himself, his beliefs, personality. xx | |
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Eno75
| | Joined: 11/3/2006
Msg: 35 | |
| Firefighters... Good, bad, or ugly?
Posted: 2/23/2007 9:53:49 PM | I wasn't really here to learn about whether or not it was a respected trade- any idiot knows that. What I wanted to know is that while it IS a respected trade, in my experience many women have wanted to run away from it because of the perception that firefighters are all "dawgs." I guess in a way I just wanted to see the justification from different perspectives. That's all.
I don't know- I thought it was a simple question... but- I can see where you're coming from I suppose. I can come in here and get a nice pat on the back and drop into circulation with renewed confidence and enthusiasm. Except that I already had plenty of both, and I think figuregal will attest to that!
And I'm not sure what you meant by "not willing to place myself out there?"
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Posted: 2/23/2007 10:02:30 PM | Eno, some girls have the blue fever, others dont. Just like any other career.
And girls, its not the uniform that makes the man... its everything outside of that that makes him one or not.
ps: paramedics rule ;) | |
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Posted: 2/24/2007 1:15:51 AM | I think it is an unbelievably selfless job. You have a very dangerous job that most people would not do. I surely appreciate it. In my profession a fireman could always come in handy :) I am sure there are many women on here that just love a man in uniform.
I would take what that woman said with a grain of salt and forget about it! | |
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Posted: 2/24/2007 5:18:10 AM |
What is the first thing that creeps into your head when you learn the man who approached you (online in here or in real life) is a firefighter? .....He's got a fantastic body! Well that's the FIRST thing.
I look at fire fighters the same way I look at Doctor's, Vetenarians, Policemen, Paramedics etc. People who help people and animals at the drop of a hat. Those shocking hours they have to work and the responsibilities that go with the job.
Geez.....Did I leave the iron on?
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Posted: 2/24/2007 6:10:05 AM | I have nothing but respect for firefighters , doesn't hurt that so many of them are so darn adorable!
as a nurse myself I can understand the long shifts, the human suffering they see and the danger of the job , I'd have no problems dating a firefighter.
with that, it depends on the person , no matter what they do , from fire fighter to accountant to artist, your occupation may say a lot about you , but it doesn't define you 100% as a person. | |
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kk42
| | Joined: 1/18/2006
Msg: 42 | |
| Firefighters... Good, bad, or ugly?
Posted: 2/24/2007 6:47:08 AM | | Good definately good. I look at firefighters as true heros. I know several and they risk their lives for the safety of others. Humanity is a great and I know it must be hard on their significant others. But having a true good hearted man is what most woman are looking for. | |
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Posted: 2/24/2007 6:57:32 AM | | To all My brothers and lets not forget sisters keep up the good work and stay safe. The whole player, cheater thing is such a load of crap, ya there might be a few bad apples but dont we see that in any job. Before starting a career on the fire department I was employed by Ford Motor Co. and saw many marriaages break up over cheating, but I will not go so far as to say all auto workers are cheaters and players. Actually in my 4 yrs in the department I have seen more firefighters marriages break up because the mans wife was stepping out on him while he was doing his 24 hr shift. Also does this broad statement about us firefighters being cheaters and players apply to our female counterparts aswell? | |
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Posted: 2/24/2007 7:25:19 AM | Here's what I wonder- do you think firefighters mess around any more than any men (or women for that matter) in any other occupation? Has anyone ever seen any stats or studies into the matter? Is the generalization warranted or is just because it's a high profile job?
Yes, the generalization is warranted. In fact any time a generalization is made, it's often backed up with personal experiences and or many other personal experiences that have been cited time and time again and they are usually worthy of some investigation.
My cousin was a cop (lost his badge over a sexual assault charge). I've known several firefighters as acquaintances and EMT's. They all shared a common trait. They all took full advantage of the perks their uniform issued them,specifically that women would drool like helpless little "badge bunnies" around them and they enjoyed the attention.
The mere fact that these professions present certain challenges for couples in a long term relationship (the risks, the long, erratic hours and the stress) adds to the precept that these men (and women) are often adrenaline junkies with a high need for excitement (including extra-marital excitement) and an overall feeling of aggrandizement. Many have super-egos and require this job in order to inflate their already overwhelmed sense of pride. A pride they take full advantage of with people.
Naturally one can't assume such traits exist in ALL who work in the public service realm but it is a personality that specifically fits into these types of jobs. But that doesn't mean there isn't reason to be concerned.
I personally don't see how these jobs present a "high profile" as you mentioned. I think that is an inflated statement. The girl at the movie tickets counter has a higher profile when it comes to exposure to the public but she isn't saving our lives. It's a question of whether we want to bite the hand that feeds us. I'd prefer not to.
My cousin lost his job because of that lawsuit. I've gone out with him for drinks a few times and he is most assuredly a womanizer. He goes through women like I go through underwear. Now that he's lost his job, he's now chosen to focus on his own domestic life and he's not half the man he believed himself to be behind the badge.
I can't abide by anyone hiding behind their profession. I don't respect you more for it. It's not inflicted upon you, it's a choice you made. Now WHY you made that choice may indicate what you felt the benefits of the job were.
I would be most respectful of those who are decent enough not to fall into the "swooning pit of uniform drool queens" but most men just can't handle that kind of attention without getting stung sooner or later.
Oh and I bet they get propositioned 10 times more than in any other profession. Not something most self-respecting women want to deal with. Too much drama. | |
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| Firefighters... Good, bad, or ugly?
Posted: 2/24/2007 11:21:22 AM | I think firemen are EXTREMELY sexy. After all, I have a personalized license plate on my truck that says "I(heart symbol)FREMN"  | |
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Posted: 2/24/2007 11:25:21 AM | Doesn't anyone believe in being a police officer/firefighter/military man/paramedic for the good of society anymore? Doesn't anyone beleive that these people do what they do because they like making the world a better place? That their jobs, like any other job has it's up and downs.
I come from a military family, and my father was a police officer for most of my life. I had a normal childhood, I got to spend lots of time with my father, granted, it wasn't always in the same hours that other children got to spend time with their dad's, but we had that time. When he was working midnight shifts, I would wake up at 3 in the morning and have hot chocolate with him before going back to bed. When he was working day shifts he would get up and make us breakfast before we went to school. When we had PD days, he would take us to traffic court with him (if he had criminal court we would have to go to the babysitters). When he had to work Christmas day, we got up at 3 am to open our presents before he went to work.
Being a police officer or a fireman doesn't mean you have no time for home life, it just means that you have to make the most of the time you do have at home. There are also the perks of a higher ranking police officer getting more time off, we spent 3 weeks of every summer camping in algonquin. Most types of shift work also involve a good block of days off, I think my dad at one point had a 4 day on, 3 day off cycle, which was great. Not to mention the pay is pretty decent for city cops.
And about the risk. Yes there is a risk, but really, you are more likely to get into a fatal car accident on the way home from a shift than get shot while on duty. The only time my dad ever got hurt was when he was working as a motorcycle cop and a catering truck ran him over. It's a dangerous job, but you should be proud of the men who go out there every day and do it because it needs to be done.
I would be proud to be the girlfriend/wife of any man who is brave enough, and has the integrity to be a fireman/ policeman/ paramedic / or military man.
Now there are jerks in every field, and yes there are some guys that are only cops or firemen for the perks, but you'll find a-holes everywhere, no profession is exempt ... | |
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| Firefighters... Good, bad, or ugly?
Posted: 2/24/2007 11:47:49 AM |
Doesn't anyone believe in being a police officer/firefighter/military man/paramedic for the good of society anymore? Doesn't anyone beleive that these people do what they do because they like making the world a better place? That their jobs, like any other job has it's up and downs. Hmmmm... lemme see... as for making the world a better place... I know of other people that are of a much lower profile that make the world a better place... people who don't **** and complain that they aren't making enough money while serving food to the homeless and destitute.
The people that don't expect special treatment simply because they wear a uniform and carry identification that should hold them to a higher standard... yet they are the ones that are suspiciously absent in their marriage or relationship...
I would be proud to be the girlfriend/wife of any man who is brave enough, and has the integrity to be a fireman/ policeman/ paramedic / or military man. Kudos to you... I'm sure his mistress would say that exact same thing...  I've yet to see integrity woven into a uniform... but when that day happens, I'll be more than happy to jump back on here and offer up my praise to the people that wear integrity... for now, it's simply material that gives them greater opportunity and a brotherhood to maintain duplicitous lifestyles...
But that's just my opinion... | |
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| Firefighters... Good, bad, or ugly?
Posted: 2/24/2007 11:48:41 AM | Hmm, one of the most loyal, loving husbands in my extended family was a great uncle who was retired FDNY. I think the job (like other rescue professions & military) attracts both people who care greatly about others and/or are willing to take risks. Whether or not an individual will cheat probably depends on what the caring to risk taking ratio is. Risk taking can translate into reckless behavior in one's personal life if not balanced out properly by the caring. So I would probably look at the individual's ratio.
As mentioned, the danger element and working rotating shifts and holidays can create chaos in family life. So it does take someone strong who can handle all of that to be a good partner. If you get a situation where one person is predisposed to risk taking and the person at home isn't handling the danger & rotating shifts well, it's easy to see where problems can flare up in the relationship. | |
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Eno75
| | Joined: 11/3/2006
Msg: 49 | |
| Firefighters... Good, bad, or ugly?
Posted: 2/24/2007 5:16:23 PM | Pssst assumes of course that the person serving food down at the homeless shelter isn't screwing around in their spare time. And I think the sweeping generalization about mistresses was uncalled for- though I noticed you take a rather abrupt tone in all your other forum posts as well. Well, at least all the ones that aren't just about you.
I do know it is hard on the women I'm with because I DO love to spend a lot of time with "the boys" at the station. There is a brotherhood there that is a difficult bond to interfere with. I know the relationships (not marriages) that I've been in that struggled were simply because I was selfish and interpretted a woman's patience by assuming it meant I could take more, and more time away. I know the woman I was dating when I first got on the service understood my passion and allowed me the lattitude I needed to spend as much time training and at the station as I felt I needed... All she asked for was one night a week.... and patiently, she stayed by my side even as those single nights dwindled month by month.
And on one side, it was unfair of me to be so selfish... and one thing I have learned from her is that I need to make time for the woman who sticks by me through the trials of the fire service. As important as it is to be passionate about what you do- and to share that with the person you're with...
Back when I got on, I used to say "Women love to be with a firefighter- they just don't like letting him be one" I was under some impression that women didn't "get it." But really, as it turns out I think I was the one who didn't "get it!" I thank you all for the multiple opinions on the matter and hope to see you all in other threads!
Except maybe for you pssst. haha.
eno. | |
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| Firefighters... Good, bad, or ugly?
Posted: 2/24/2007 6:45:50 PM | firefighter, paramedic, any other "i've got the balls to help people in situations most people would run from"..
TOTALLY HOT. | |
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