| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 5/16/2008 2:57:44 PM | Why compare full contact sports to a non (but contact anyway) sport.?
Its not a good argument.
You get faking in all sports these days even the sacrosant North American ones.
Along with lots of steroids lately. | |
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| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 5/16/2008 3:21:06 PM | second, i would love to see an ice hockey player on a football pitch keeping the net or playing against, say, Ronaldinho or Ronaldo (the ice hockey player would look like an idiot lost in the middle of nowhere). this comment of mine is ridiculous, just like yours about a footballer playing ice hockey! they are different sports
im willing to bet a guy like luongo, kipper, nabby or any other goalie in the nhl would do a decent enough job in net. but however i would love to see a soccer goalie stand between the pipes and face a chara slapper, or a blast from the point from any nhl player.
dont Ronaldinho or Ronaldo make most professinal soccer players look like fools with there moves? so i would be willing to bet they could make most nhl players look bad on the pitch. id be willing to bet though rico fata or even chris simon would stick handle around any soccer player. hockey players often play with a soccer ball to warm up. hell i bet hacther would look fast on ice vs a soccer player.
there are different sports, hockey is faster, harder hitting, both take lots of skill to play and need to be in amazing shape to go pro in ethier sport. hockey however is a grind a war to win it all, soccer has a shorter season so your body does not that as much punishment.
you really think any soccer player is going to get up after being hit by phaneuf?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7cu3-ObJZQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6LNIBkU1wU&NR=1 | |
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| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 5/16/2008 5:20:58 PM | | I think I made a valid point about the World Series thing...wasn't that more about a newspaper originally...as for the steroids scandal...aren't you missing the point...my point was simply that if you want to complain about "cheaters"...shouldn't you clean out your own backyard first???? Read the posts before jumping on a flash hobby horse guy... | |
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| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 5/16/2008 6:02:57 PM | the mlb, nhl and nba can all if they wanted call it the world championship. its not just a single country that plays in any of those 3.
nhl isnt ever called the world championship though.
quick name 2 players in the nhl ever caught doping? juice doesnt do hockey players any good. baseball players did before the rule was in place so it wasnt cheating really. im not defending baseball i dont like it, to many games. a sport should have its star players playing ever game not 1 in 5.
as for some of the guys talking about 'bustin' moves..stick to the armchairs guys...it's safer!!!!!
even on my busted up ankle could show you a thing or 2 at the rink. i cant speak for anyone else here but after my surgury on my ankle and some rehab i wil be playing some hockey again, so not really a armchair player. some are but not much you can do when you suffer a 3rd degree sprian, muitlple tears and a few breaks on something like your ankle. | |
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| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 5/16/2008 6:44:59 PM | most inportant player on there team the pitcher, 1 game in 5 days. maybe worded it alittle wrong. but the point is i wanna wacth the best players play, i wouldnt mind if they had to play a back to back and you had a 2nd come in but when only 2 teams can afford to put top star players on there team its gets stupid.
cut the games down to 3/4 of what they play now, and the game will inporve. | |
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| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 5/16/2008 9:03:48 PM | "as for the steroids scandal...aren't you missing the point...my point was simply that if you want to complain about "cheaters"...shouldn't you clean out your own backyard first????"
good comeback....
NOT
I wasn't missing any point about steroids, other than that you were trying to claim that steroids is a North American phenomenon. All I did was point out that your claims are irrefutably inaccurate
You could do yourself a real favour by abiding to your own advice
"clean up your own backyard ... " | |
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| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 5/17/2008 2:40:01 AM | the mlb, nhl and nba can all if they wanted call it the world championship. its not just a single country that plays in any of those 3.
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Its only 2 really.
Not exactly the world.
I remember htere they showed the Superbowl on free to air on free to air TV for the first time last year.
Didnt get great rating but anyway at the end the captain of the winning team said "We are world champions".
Later one of the hosts here said "Can people please stop calling and emailing the station, we know NFL is a North American sport and not a world championship, you know Americans"
Had to laugh. | |
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| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 5/17/2008 3:21:57 AM | Sorry guy. There is no steroid scandal in soccer. There is a massive steroid scandal in the US at the moment.
Cycling is a world sport and the biggest scandal surrounds American cyclists, one who had the tour de france title stripped and the other who even has his own compatriot Le Monde say that he (Armstrong) was juicing. Olympic sports are WORLD sports so pointing to problems with steroids there has nothing to do with European soccer, and some of the biggest Olympian offenders are from the US but again, it's a WORLD problem, it has nothing to do with Europe or the US per se so your "refutation" refutes a straw man...one that no one...(certainly not me) proposed.
I NEVER said it was a North American phenomenon, SHOW ME WHERE I said that...that's right...ya can't find it...I NEVER WROTE IT. I said that there are plenty of problems with different aspects of American sports including a cloud hanging over a lot of athletes (even Clemens now for crying out loud) because of drugs. So dismissing soccer because of a handful of players who bring the game into disrepute by diving is a little hypocritical when there are such serious offenders (i.e. cheaters) in your own sport...
So your own "comeback" was pathetic...you're not even able to read what others ACTUALLy wrote...nevermind understand it. If you'd taken the time to read some of my posts you'll find that I defended US sports, I loved all of 'em when I lived there. I wasted more time on CBS sportsline's fantasy football site than most for quite a few years...for all the good it did me. But the provincialism of some of you when it comes to the world's most popular game smacks of serious ignorance and bigotry.
As for armchair air hockey guy...if you want to see a leg injury go copy and paste the link I put up...just a regular old run of the mill soccer tackle and you'll see why guys roll around in soccer after taking one to the ankles...It's probably a page or two back now | |
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| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 5/17/2008 3:24:12 AM | Furthermore, the original World Series in baseball was named after the New York newspaper...the others just decided to call themselves World Champions arbitrarily. For those of you that have ever heard of hurling (Irish sport) I think I'll name my county World Champions next time they win the All-Ireland final... | |
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| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 5/17/2008 5:45:32 AM | | I've been reading up on the baseball world series thing btw...bit confusing...nobody seems to know for absolutely sure how the name started even MLB themselves...I always thought it was to do with Newspaper sponsorship of the original but I've read a number of times that that is probably not true...Anyone have any definitive knowledge on this? | |
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| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 5/17/2008 8:08:32 AM | smackemhard, you are wrong regarding baseball. The stars DO play every game. It's the pitchers who play 1 in 5 , that is about 32 games per season. Most fans come out to see the star hitters not the pitchers. I agree that the pitcher is an important part of the team, but not the most important. To prove that, the Blue Jays had 10 consecutive games where the pitchers allowed fewer than 3 runs and their record in that span was 4 and 6. The hitters weren't hitting. It's a team game and the pitchers can't do everything.
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| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 5/17/2008 8:18:26 AM | sorry but canada and the usa play in the mlb so really it is a international leauge.
as for the nfl is there any other nfl style leauge out there? i thougth maybe nfl europe not sure, however the nfl is the best of the best so how are they not world champions at nfl football? if there is a team with players that could win the super bowl im pretty sure they would be over in the nfl making millions.
where did i say i was a yank? i am canadian i dont care what a yankee guy does on a bike.
im just saying should wacth out who you call airchair athlete's, you dont know. there is only a selcet few that get to live the dream and play pro. i used to play soccer man i know what a slide takle can do. however i know what a season of hockey can do also. i never played pro or anything but at a decent enough of a leval i can tell you for a fact hockey is harder on the body, my whole point all along. you need to be in pretty good shape for soccer so worked good for summer training for other sports.
i just dont see how this is even close, hockey is harder on the body. | |
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| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 5/17/2008 11:56:16 AM | so an ice hockey goalkeeper would do a decent job defending a football's net? what a joke i assume that you posted the comment without thinking that your net is quite smaller than a football's, and no need to say that your goalkeeper would have to take off the padding and helmets he wears, you know, just to avoid people laughing!
by the way, i am tired of hearing that same old shite that champions of MLB, NFL, NBA or NHL are World Chmapions. RUBBISH!
your north american arrogance goes beyond stupidity! to be a World Champion you must have 'balls' to face teams from all over the world! NFL is a championship with teams from only 2 countries, yes 2 countries! yet you are always bragging using the term 'world champion'. the same with baseball and basketball (by the way, USA did not even win the last world championship of baseball).
come on you guys from USA and Canada! let's continue calling yourselves 'world champions' if it makes you happier (while the rest of the world laughs).
only a national football team winning the World Cup is a fair and real world champion. | |
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| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 5/17/2008 12:26:56 PM | My own comeback was pathetic? How many cyclists were banned/dismissed at last year's TDF? Seven - all European.
2006 - Three Spanish teams plus two Spanish racers, one Australian team and one Portgual team as well as Jan Ullrich and Ivan Basso.
Lance Armstrong was strictly a case of yellow journalism. There was no proof, there was no case. But because L’Equippe said it was so, all the sheep over there believed it. Did the Journal give Jan Ulrich's situation anywhere near the same coverage? No, even though he was found guilty.
You were saying that before anyone say anything oabout any other countries, Americans should clean up their own back yard – particularly their steroid scandal.
That comment insinuates that there's a steroid problem in the United States not prevalent anywhere else in the world and I am just proving you wrong.
You also said that "they were ALL juicing" which is about as ignorant a statement as saying there is no steroid use in football/soccer.
I got news for you kirk aka pollyanna - there is steroid use in any sport where steroids will give the competitor an advantage. Bottom line is, that if cheating can give you an edge, it's human nature to do it,
No one proved that more emphatically than the Spaniards who faked being handicapped in order to win medals at the 2002 Olympics. When you talk about disgraceful, that may have been the number-one most disgraceful episode in the history of sport. Oh and wouldn't you know it, it was committed by "those Damn Yanks".
So before you don that "holier than thou" attitude, maybe you should take a little time to sit back and recognizeyour own deficiencies. | |
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| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 5/17/2008 1:07:50 PM | Pedro, please calm down. By the way the NFL is a championship from only 1 country, not 2. There are NO NFL teams in Canada, but this is a championship of the best players in the world, yes the whole world. Most of the players are American, some Canadians and Europeans, but their are no teams in the world that could beat them in their sport of football. That is why they call themselves the world champs.
You seem to be very opinionated and somewhat of a hypocrite. You call North Americans arrogant and stupid when it seems like you're describing yourself. Your a typical "pot calling the kettle black". Again Pedro, calm down not everyone can enjoy the"beautiful game" as you do. Football(North American)is very popular and in many ways better than soccer. You really should hold your comments regarding North American football untill you learn more about the game and personally play it. You commenting on football would be like me commenting on Cricket. I have never played it and don't know all the rules. To me it seems like a boring version of baseball, but that is an UNINTELLIGENT and UNINFORMED opinion on my part. This is why your comments are being laughed at. I'm sorry to be so harsh Pedro, but until your comments are less anti North American you'll continue to be laughed at. | |
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| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 5/17/2008 1:55:48 PM | "your north american arrogance goes beyond stupidity! to be a World Champion you must have 'balls' to face teams from all over the world! NFL is a championship with teams from only 2 countries, yes 2 countries! "
Speaking of stupidity .... I guess I must fall into that category because I can't, for the life of me, figure out which country is the other one in the NFL. Please enlighten me Pedro 
As much as you trash Americans, Pedro, you are exactly the same. Your paradigms do not go beyond Europe.
You are, in essence, a European Yankee | |
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| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 5/17/2008 2:23:58 PM | so an ice hockey goalkeeper would do a decent job defending a football's net? what a joke i assume that you posted the comment without thinking that your net is quite smaller than a football's, and no need to say that your goalkeeper would have to take off the padding and helmets he wears, you know, just to avoid people laughing!
you do you a puck travel faster then a soccer ball right? a nhl goaltender has one of the fastist reaction times in any sports, i know the nets bigger, i played goal in soccer for a season but was so so board standing there. no they would not look like a professianl goalie but as the comment was would do better then a soccer player trying to play hockey. plus hockey has goalies that are from europe how do you know they didnt play soccer as kids and hockey?
see well i have played both sports, and say hockey is better. you havnt even wacthed a hockey game and are so blinded by lack of experince you think your right.
name a team other then a nfl team that could beat them in there sport...the fact is the nfl is the highist leval you can get to.
its funny how not even all your countries in europe are all aboust soccer. finland, sweeden, Switzerland, Czech Republic, latvia, Belarus, Slovakia all examples of countries that also have a love for hockey. its really only a matter of time, as you said soccer is old, hockey is new and coming up. | |
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| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 5/18/2008 1:25:57 AM | A world championship consists of more than 1 country.
The NFL is a domestic chamionship. whether is has great players doesnt matter.
Yes ice hockey is playes in some countries of Europe.
Many Euro countries have other sports.
Cycling, Volleyball, Euro handball and motorsport.
Im sure Canuckistan does too. | |
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| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 5/18/2008 2:39:08 AM | | Like I said...I defended US sports...said that DRUGS IN SPORT WAS A WORLD PROBLEM NOT A EUROPEAN ONE....and that soccer was relatively clean in comparison...you're again arguing against a straw man...rather badly as well...don't know why I'm repsonding really, you haven't actually disagreed with ANYTHING I wrote! | |
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| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 5/18/2008 2:43:02 AM | As for Armchair Airhockey enthusiast...do you really think that ice hockey can compare internationally with the appeal of soccer??? Go crack another brew, throw on Mighty Ducks for the 1000th time and dream some more buddy...it's all fantasy for you | |
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| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 5/18/2008 10:27:02 AM | Yes, I see where YOU agreed with ME that steroids is a world problem, not just an American one. But YOU are the one who suggested before Americans start pointing the finger, they should clean up their steroid situation. I just pointed out your flaw.
So I'd say I argued the point rather well ... at least I got you to recognize that the steroid "scandal" is not an American issue.
And yeah, it's clear that I am arguing with a straw man. What was it that the straw man was missing in Oz?
Hey, you said it. I'm just agreeing with you | |
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| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 5/18/2008 10:54:09 AM | As for Armchair Airhockey enthusiast...do you really think that ice hockey can compare internationally with the appeal of soccer??? Go crack another brew, throw on Mighty Ducks for the 1000th time and dream some more buddy...it's all fantasy for you
never said it did, there is to many poor countries that cant afford to play hockey. so if you include your 3rd world countries then sure soccer has more countries that play. besides it wouldnt matter if they did have teams it still would be the same teams winning. we have enough of you soft euro's in the nhl already.
"The NFL is a domestic chamionship. whether is has great players doesnt matter."
its the only league that plays that style of football other then ncaa and youth programs, so who ever wins it is the best in the world.
Yes ice hockey is playes in some countries of Europe.
Many Euro countries have other sports.
Cycling, Volleyball, Euro handball and motorsport.
yes but none of those are considered top sports, in those countries it was hockey first or a deadlock with soccer. fact is hockey is on a upwards swing as where soccer has reached its high point.of course the 3rd world will never be big on hockey, its hard to keep ice in a hot climate. hockey is expencive soccer is cheap. any poor tribe can buy a ball and play. | |
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| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 5/18/2008 11:20:44 AM | You have to be kidding me.
US sports had a rise in popularity in the mid 90's
With Jordan and all that.
Now its footballs turn
Across Asia and India, China it is immense.
The champions league, Euro Cup and World cup get immense viewing audiences.
Ice hockey has its place in some of the colder countries in Europe, but its far from supplanting football.
hell half of North America doesnt really care about it.
LOL soft Euro's
If you are so tough, why are still under the queen?
Be tough and become a republic. | |
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