| this just in. HOCKEY IS TOUGHER ON THE BODY!!
Posted: 8/18/2007 7:58:36 AM | really get rid of the helmets. thats the worse idea i have ever heard of and players used to play with out helmets all the time till the nhl grandfatherd the manditory use of them as a saftey issue. in fact goailes used to play with out mask or hellmet. that fact alone moves hockey into the toughist sport ever played by man.
the puck travels at 100mph has more knockdown power then some riffles, do the math man. a puck in the head will kill you, or do serious damage. soccor ball at the hardist shot in the world of football will only what give you a concussion?
hockey is faster, has hitting, play more games, boards, ice, a frozen rubber puck shot at speed over 100mph, soccor has nothing on hockey. | |
|
| this just in. HOCKEY IS TOUGHER ON THE BODY!!
Posted: 8/18/2007 9:18:13 AM | Hockey used to be played with no helmets and no padding.. Also no slaphots and no curve in the stick.. So the puck travelled about as fast as a Soccer Ball.. Once they allowed players to shoot with a slapshot and curving the stick the puck started to travel up around 100 mph..
Goalies were not allowed to wear masks. Do a search on Gerry Cheevers. a famous goalie from the 1970's.. Cheevers always started with fresh unpainted mask which was covered in scars by seasons end. Cheevers' trainer (John Forristall) started the stitches trend by putting them on his mask wherever he was struck by a puck or stick.
Or do a search on Terry Sawchuck another goalie in the 1950's (he still has the record for the most shutouts) who ended up with 600 stitches in his first 12 years as a goalie that he didn't wear a mask.. Back then they would stitch you up with no freezing, between periods so you could get right back in the game.. A soccer player gets a stubbed toe and rolls around on the ground like he is dead.. | |
|
| |
| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 8/18/2007 4:15:30 PM | Are people still debating this?
There is no debate. The soccer/football fanatics are clueless. I am sure if the soccer players tried to play hockey, they could not handle it. Their main strengths are in the cardio dept. and they concentrate most of the strength/power in their legs. In hockey, you have to strengthen the upper and lower body. You absolutely have to considering the physical punishment you must endure over 80 games. How many games do soccer players play in a season? One other interesting consideration: many hockey players could probably play high level soccer. Watch a Vancouver Canucks game on CBC. It is often shown before the game of players in a circle kicking a soccer ball around. It rarely if ever touches the ground unless they're done. The coordination is amazing. | |
|
| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 2/1/2008 9:57:47 PM | Soccer is more *physically* demanding.
Hockey by far, is much more tougher on the body, though.
I mean, you have to take hits, block shots, risk broken limbs to slashing...high sticks.
It's just much more grueling of a sport to play. Especially in the playoffs, when the punishment on your body, is much more severe.
If you only knew the true numbers of players who have suffered concussions, and kept playing anyway, you'd get a full effect at how tough this sport really is.
The only sport that is just as punishing as hockey, is rugby, in my books.
That, and tackle football. | |
|
| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 2/2/2008 7:36:01 AM | | Hockey has more violent blows but they also have more padding. Definitely more broken limbs & concussions than soccer. Also , Hockey players lose more teeth..LOLThat said, You will see more knee & ankle injuries in soccer. | |
|
| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 2/5/2008 12:52:30 PM | which sport is tougher on the body ....
With soccer, it's all about stamina. Sure, you'll take the slap or kick every now and then, but in reality - that's pretty much it.
With hockey, with every shift - you'll get nailed or checked. Dodge a puck or even block one. The speed of a 220 lb man flying at you at about 20 mph hurts - no matter how much you are prepared for it.
All I gotta say is - put skates on a pro soccer player and put him up against even the worse hockey player in the Nhl - The soccer player will be out for the rest of the season, while the hockey player will see it as just another day.
I played both - Hockey is the No Contest Winner :) | |
|
| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 2/11/2008 9:07:40 AM | | Wow! This guy obviously knows nothing about hockey!! Have you ever played hockey? I doubt it since you thought that the guy earlier was talking about the Detroit Pistons (when the subject is about hockey and soccer). Everyone can run, not very many can skate. Watch a game one time, just once, maybe then you will understand. Yes I have played both, really not worth comparing. | |
|
| |
| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 2/12/2008 10:12:00 AM | "put skates on a pro soccer/football player and put him up against even the worst hockey player in the nhl, the soccer/football player will be out for the rest of the season, while the hockey player will see it as just another day"
^^^^the comment is silly and ridiculous (surely it has been posted by a north american, so it does not surprise me).
now i become silly and ridiculous as well and say, "give a round ball to the best hockey player in the nhl and put him up against even a third division footballer, the hockey player will look like a clown lost on the field, while the third division footballer will see it like playing against a 5 year old child, even the third division footballer would probably dance with the ball around the poor hockey player running and sweating so much".
both sports have nothing to do with one another! so stop thinking of a footballer playing ice hockey, ridiculous! | |
|
| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 2/12/2008 10:27:54 AM | | Pedro..I think you missed the original posters point. I think what he was asking is which athletes are more prone to injury..Hockey or soccer(football) players. I think you see much more knee & ankle injuries in soccer. | |
|
| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 2/12/2008 12:01:11 PM | Hockey is Body contact, Soccer isn't. There is no way in hell you can convince me that running around and kicking a ball is harder on your body injury wise.
Yea, maybie the leg muscles might get worn out faster. But you can skate a hell of a lot faster than you can run.. and no the padding doesnt absorb even 10% of the hit. | |
|
| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 2/13/2008 11:47:25 AM | let us put things in the right place!
the thread is about which sport is tougher on the BODY, on the BODY!
yes in Ice Hockey you have terrible impacts at high speed, but since the players have those helmets and that high amount of padding or protection, the BODY of the player does not really suffer.
on the other hand, footballers do not wear any protection save for a pair of shinpads, that is all! so even a simple tackle on a BODY WITHOUT ANY PROTECTION really hurts. and sometimes there are impacts at high speed so the damage is even worse.
and finally, let us not forget that footballers often suffer the worst nighmare (injury) that any sportsman can ever suffer: broken knee ligaments. and i assume it must be because of something...........mustn't it? in fact that nighmare is so terrible that none player really gets recovered fully, and you have many chances to fall again and agin. i have seen lots of great players breaking their knee ligaments, and later they have disappeared from the map losing the chance of a bright future.
therefore, talking about which sport is more violent and has worse impacts, then i agree on Ice Hockey.
but talking about which sport is tougher on the BODY, i do say Football! | |
|
| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 2/13/2008 12:10:22 PM | Soccer aka European football is by and large a non-contact sport, so naturally, ice hockey is tougher on the body.
Chirpers like Pedro will try to say otherwise, but any sport where you flick a booger at me and I fall down like that booger was loaded with C4, then you get a yellow card for hurting me (boo hoo) is not a true contact sport.  THAT's why they don't wear equipment in your kind of football Pedro... it's not necessary.
Now, there is a type of football that is tougher than either hockey OR "traditional" football and that's Australian Rules Football. You want to talk about a tough sport, I dare Beckham – or Bertuzzi for that matter – to try that on for size. | |
|
| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 2/13/2008 3:00:49 PM | Florida Panthers forward Richard Zednik underwent surgery to close a deep gash on the right side of his neck and was in stable condition Sunday night after he was cut by a teammate's skate during a game.
Blood gushed from Zednik's neck after he was hurt midway through the third period of Buffalo's 5-3 win.
http://www.sltrib.com/sports/ci_8228244
When is the last time that happened in Football/Soccer ?? | |
|
| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 2/14/2008 11:04:38 AM | "that's why they don't wear equipment in your kind of football Pedro... it's not necessary"
you are wrong, again! it is not that footballers need not wear anything but that they are real men playing a sport with no outer-space helmets and effeminate padding
footballers often break their knee and knee ligaments after being tackled with boots with studs. is your brain able to think about it? studs on your knee, leg, etc think about it dude 
now let us compare a man wearing padding coming to you at high speed with you wearing padding as well to a footballer being 'kissed' with boots with studs on your body without any protection. yes it is ridiculous to compare both.......... | |
|
| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 2/14/2008 12:14:16 PM | | its ridiculous to attempt to have a discussion with pedro unless you are supporting everything he says. he is always right so why oppose him. dont you know by now that everything across the pond is harder to do, better to play , and more interesting to watch and support. all sports we poorly attempt to do here are just derived from the great history of european sports. every north american sport is highly inferior and we are all second class compared to europeans. when are we going to wake up and start worshiping the monarchy again. we need a forum about second rate sports so we no longer offend the grand wisdom of pedro. soccer has to be tougher on the body because he says so, i will accept his unfailable knowledge. | |
|
MNM08
|
Joined: 1/14/2008
Msg: 143 | |
| |
| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 2/14/2008 3:39:16 PM | "footballers often break their knee and knee ligaments after being tackled with boots with studs."
OK Pedro, here's where you don't get it. A tackle to the knee with studded boots is illegal. You do that you are AT LEAST yellow carded, if not red.
However, pasting a guy into the boards while skating at 30 miles per hour is a LEGAL part of hockey... not only legal, but if you do not know how to not only absorb such a hit, but give one as well, you will never make it as a pro.
If you are talking about the injuries as a result of flagrant fouls, such as boots to the body, the flagrant fouls that can be caused with a hockey stick far outweight those that can be cause with a boot.
Here...I'll put it to you in another way: A perfectly clean game of football, played within the rules, doesn't even cme close to a perfectly clean game of hockey. Hitting. ie. body is allowed in hockey...it is NOT allowed in soccer.
Think about it... DUDE. | |
|
| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 2/14/2008 11:23:48 PM | Hockey is tougher and Hockey players are tougher
"For one thing, the act of skating is low impact, while running is high impact"
Hockey has way more impact on the body overall, checking is legal there are boards a hard ice suface and goal posts to collide with. Hockey players might wear pads but the collisions happen at much higher speeds and you get thrown into harder surfaces than grass.
"Even the best hockey players rarely are on the ice for more than thirty minutes, with most playing under twenty minutes, while each soccer player, except for players injured or subsititued, play the entire ninety minutes."
Hockey and soccer have different conditioning aspects due to the different styles of the game. The soccer player on the big wide pitch that isn't directly involved with the play sort of trots around not at maximum capacity, on a smaller playing surface the hockey rink a player is never far from the play and is playing a short shifts to maximum capacity.Hockey players excell at delivering power and strength in short bursts and also develop excellent overall cardiovascular endurance that soccer players have becuase they play more games.Soccer players are conditioned for endurance required to play 90 mins but do not have the ability hockey players have for bursts of strength and power.Hockey has best of both types of conditioning.
Hockey players and North American athletes who play contact sports are conditioned to have a higher pain threshold than Soccer participants-Everyone has seen the drama of an injured soccer player compared to hockey players who spit out broken teeth play with broken limbs, get stitched up and back in the game without drama or complaint.If there are more older hockey players than older soccer players it's not becuase they have less aches and pains they are tougher. | |
|
| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 2/15/2008 11:48:35 PM | uhh, Ill take your little scratches from your cleats any day...
But you have to let me catch you in the train tracks on ice and we will see if your little cuts hurt more then my entire 235lbs hitting you in the chest at full speed. I promise your collapsed lung will hurt more
Ohhh, and your " soccer players are on the field for the entire game"
My friend plays college soccer AND college hockey. I promise you he wouldnt be able to play an entire 60 min game. You can jog in soccer, if you were coasting in professional hockey they would bench your ass | |
|
| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 2/16/2008 3:52:02 AM | From the Canadian Journal of Emergency Medicine:
Ice hockey is considered one of the fastest and most aggressive team sports. Defined as a game played with clubs (hockey sticks), knives (skates) and bullets (pucks), its violence parallels that seen daily within emergency medicine.
Hockey-related injuries are common, with one report of more than 30 000 presentations to US emergency departments (EDs) in 2001.3 The annual incidence of spinal cord injury with paralysis as a result of an injury acquired while playing hockey in Canada is 3 times greater than that reported for American football.5 The majority of injuries are secondary to blunt trauma and are minor in nature; however, accounts of significant morbidity and mortality have been published.5,6 Although not commonly reported, hockey sticks can cause significant harm and may account for up to 14% of hockey-related injuries.1,7,8
We report a case of penetrating chest trauma requiring surgical intervention after a player's broken composite hockey stick impaled a teammate's thoracic cavity.
http://www.caep.ca/template.asp?id=586C3BF5EEFD48C399F4A2AC145BC935
Yes being kicked in the knee how terrible... I can see why they roll around on the ground like they were shot..
 | |
|
| |
| |
| Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 2/16/2008 7:27:41 AM |
With soccer, it's all about stamina.
Of course, some nights with MY hockey team....it's stamina, too.....when you only have 2 subs on the bench.
With hockey, with every shift - you'll get nailed or checked. Dodge a puck or even block one. The speed of a 220 lb man flying at you at about 20 mph hurts - no matter how much you are prepared for it.
I've gone home with concussions and huge bruises. I've been slammed into the boards more times than I care to think about, including a freak hit that bent my knee backward and sideways, and made walking nearly impossible for months. I haven't played soccer since Jr. high school, but I work with a girl who plays...and just exchanging games stories....I'd say hockey is a MUCH tougher sport!
AND...YAY!!! I have TWO games this weekend!!
Jill :) | |
|
Home
login 
