| When did the title of B i tch become a badge of honor? Posted: 5/18/2008 2:45:01 PM | | i think some of you are called it unfairly, but most women who complain about it being used to describe reasonable behavior over and over really are just ***holes with bad personalities in my experience. Not nice people. | |
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| When did the title of B i tch become a badge of honor? Posted: 5/18/2008 3:16:01 PM | It is ALL about your experience, of course....
I think you haven't been called a b1tch for turning a guy down when offered alley sex.
I've never experienced being strung along by a woman, paid her rent and found out weeks later she cheated the entire time. In my experience, women are meaner to both sexes and men are nicer and more considerate to both sexes.
I'm called a b1tch for both. MOST of the time it is under the doormat category. But, no way am I going to deny the "@$$hole" behaviour occurs. (No one needs to get arrested AND fired for an assault, but, that is one of my b1tchy things I have issues with random violence and people not reporting crimes. I'm not defending my behavior, I agree that is b1tchy.) We aren't required to sleep with everyone who asks, pay for everything anyone asks or give everyone a ride just because we aren't running late at the moment.
Who are these women complaining about it? I'm not complaining about it, I'm answering a question posted a few years ago and brought up every now and then both in meatspace and here. LOTS of terms have lost their meaning due to missuse. Player, skank, stalker, asshat, the list goes on. Explaining why a term has lost meaning is not complaining. Women have listed reasons their behavior was unfairly likened to that of a food hording, fighting to the death, territorial dog.
In my experience a woman is called a b1tch by a person who did not get what they wanted. A woman who uses the term as a badge of honor has been falsely accused so many times it has lost all meaning or she prides herself on being selfish. A woman who complains about it hasn't accepted the fact the term is over used. One of my friends responds to being called a b1tch with, "When I need to be." Her view is that in order to be treated equally she HAS to be malicious.
Yes, some people are just jerks. I think most women are unfairly called a b1tch often in their life, be it behind their back or after someone has tried in vain to take advantage or abuse them in some manner. Women are called b1tches for following rules set by their manager at work! Not even her rule and people call her names for it! | |
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| When did the title of B***h become a badge of honor? Posted: 5/18/2008 3:47:04 PM | | its not a badge of honer. in fact , a man who calls me that is only gonna do it once. he is out the door never to return. I dont accept being called names. not to mention a man who calls a woman that is not a gentelman. It shows no respect at all for the woman | |
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| Only poor personal skills get the b word Posted: 5/18/2008 4:55:41 PM | Is it because you're only taking into account women who bring up the topic of being called a b1tch? Yeah, when you think ONLY the women who complain get the name calling, sure, it must be most of them are a bad person.
When you're called a b1tch for not giving a new customer your employee discount you don't come home and blog about it(you can bring it up when guys claim there is truth to every time you're called a b1tch, lol). You deal with it like every other minor imperfection in life. How women choose to deal with the name calling is their personal choice. Some take over the name in what seems like the same mentality as "dump him before he dumps you" and it looks like a badge of honor.
As many of the women have posted they're called a b1tch for what most people consider not being a doormat. This goes on for a while, the word loses meaning and becomes a joke. Not that many women make it a badge of honor. If you have that experience you're hanging out with the wrong women, just like the "nice guys" who can't find their own doormat to love.
MOST women are not pleased with being called a b1tch. We still get it all the time and the fear of being labeled one is why so many women give out phone numbers instead of being honest with guys. Thus adding to the "why do women play headgames?!!" All in all it is a sticks and stones type thing and so childish how can you respect someone who uses it as an insult, anyway? | |
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| When did the title of B***h become a badge of honor? Posted: 5/18/2008 6:48:59 PM | How and why did it ever become derogatory? Just something to think about, and not just for b****, but all similar names.
Personally, I've only been called one when I stand up for myself, or don't take any crap (from male or female). I've always been called one at my "strongest" moments. I've observed when people use the word and it seems like there are those "I'm better than everyone", and those who are strong females. Either way, I think the female is going to take it as a compliment. | |
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| When did the title of B***h become a badge of honor? Posted: 5/18/2008 8:16:22 PM | I thought "Life was a beach"...
But I think it's disrespectful anyway...to consider it a honor to be called a beach and to be called a beach when a woman stands up for herself or others.
Time to build a sandcastle on the beach...wearing my cheap flip flops.  | |
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| When did the title of B***h become a badge of honor? Posted: 5/18/2008 8:29:36 PM | I could pull out that email that goes around but I won't...
If being a b tch means that you stand up for yourself, want equal pay for equal work, being recognised as a partner rather then a possession then I will accept that... but coming out of a time period where like children you were to be seen & not heard it created the womens movement... now do I feel a need to lose my genteel sensibilities as a lady to achieve it? No.. I enjoy being a lady but I won't be ignored... haaaa Glenn Close sorry...
Truly I don't want to be referred to as a b tch that is a bit harsh... | |
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| When did the title of B***h become a badge of honor? Posted: 5/18/2008 9:44:29 PM | i take it talking about a woman's beachyness is more palatable than speaking of her weight.
am I right or wrong?
i see women trying to behave as men more and more, however, they don't have reasonable limits and fail to see that their assaults on others when no one made one to them was not only unneeded but unproductive. i see how vindictiveness is ever increasing, even when not warranted. there's some pretty nasty direct insults made here on behalf of women and even though I don't counter in their manner I see a little of it done by men, but so often to defend themselves after the women went ape wild.
I think one sex can't figure out that a general statement is in GENERAL (per customary use and per definition). A woman often take statements like that as if someone actually said something directly to her to prompt her to lose control of herself. And then you see the beachyness very clearly.
I think we need to have the logical women ( i do recognize some women can think logically) show up to stop the beachyness in these forums when it occurs to cease the behavior. listening to a woman of their wrongdoing might be better than listening to a man? | |
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| When did the title of B***h become a badge of honor? Posted: 5/19/2008 10:26:49 AM | I just don't know any women with good personal skills who get called a **** for doing somethign as simple as standing up for themselves or doing their job properly. Taking pride in being called a **** when you stand up for yourself or just fulfilled your job duties to me, indicates they are proud that they antagonized the other person to anger by lashing out excessively. Girls with good personalities and social skills, generally this doesn't happen to them. Once in a while ok, but they realize they went overboard, they're aren't proud of flipping out or unleashing all their pent up spite on someone working behind the counter of officemax making 6.50 hr because he wasn't on the ball that day.
The guy in the alley who wanted sex, the wasted guy alone at the bar, or the sexually aggressive boss, ok..he probably will say that when you are trying to be reasonable. You shouldn't let that person push you into developing this deluded, self destructive, and frankly unnatractive mentality which entices you to believe you will get called a **** for being perfectly reasonable. Trust me, if you can't make it out of the average deli without being called a ****, you probably are one.
Either that or you work for an awful company, live in an awful place, have awful friends, and only attract awful guys. In that case, you have my pity. | |
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| When did the title of B***h become a badge of honor? Posted: 5/19/2008 10:32:32 AM | | and yes, my female friends do stand up for themselves, most are educated, in grad school, or professional women and it just doesn't happen to them because they are good with people. They are very good at getting you to appologize for being a douchebag though.. | |
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| When did the title of B***h become a badge of honor? Posted: 5/19/2008 10:51:52 AM |
my female friends do stand up for themselves, most are educated, in grad school, or professional women and it just doesn't happen to them because they are good with people.
It only takes one idiot to call any of these women a **** and it could be for any reason the idiot deems worthy.. even if it's a stupid reason. And lets face it, it usually is a stupid reason.
Every single time that I've been called a b*tch it's been due to telling some guy I wasn't interested... or another female was giving me this title. I take these things from their source and generally laugh my a$$ off as I move on.
I know when I'm being a b*tch (and it's generally necessary if I'm doing it at all) and I know I'm OK with people, so what random weirdos call me is irrelevant. | |
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| When did the title of B***h become a badge of honor? Posted: 5/19/2008 11:25:09 AM | I'll give an example from my own life, I think this is last time I called a woman a ****.. It was New Years eve, I was sitting with some friends, and one of the girls in room is really horny i guess. She makes it really obvious to the guy whose place this is, that she wants to spend the night with him. Being the considerate friends we are, we make an excuse to move into the main room again and go sit down and talk so they could have some privacy.
A couple minutes later she shows up looking rather dejected. But whatever.. it's new years, she sits down and has a drink with us. She begins talking to my friend from college about how a girl she knows really likes him and asks why he didn't make a move on her that one night when they were all out together. His response was he is interested in her, but thought it better to wait because she had been drinking all night. He'd probably call her soon.
She gets really upset that he said this. Angry, and venomous. She starts demanding to know how dare he insinuate her beloved friend is a beer slut (not what he said at all), to which he replies with a fair amount of confusion, what do you mean, that's not what I said at all. She gets even madder, apparently feeling rather hurt that she was just rejected, and starts talking about how guys just think we're all sluts they can laugh at, and that she'll make sure her friend hears all about this and 'NEVER" talks to him again.. Then she downs her beer and storms out the room and down the hall.
And we sit bewildered for a few minutes, until my poor friend goes - what was that all about? And yes, my theory is that she is one crazy ****, and i said that out loud - Just as said crazy **** walked back into the room - and i swear, it was like looking into the eyes of the devil. A drunk, rejected, redheaded devil. Who then stormed back out the room and leaves slamming the door behind her.
And I'm willing to bet, given the erratic behavior of that night, all three of us were total ***holes in her mind, and were described as such the next day in her she-devil blog or diary written in animal blood, etc... That she was just sticking up for her friend, who was being so viciously slandered, and for doing so she got called a crazy ****. Just as she was considered a laughable beer slut for trying to seduce my other friend. Knowing that friend, it wasn't because she was a beer slut. He loves beer and pretty women who love beer, it's because she's ****ing crazy. He didn't reappear from his room for a good 30 minutes, and the first thing he asked was, "is she gone?" | |
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| When did the title of B***h become a badge of honor? Posted: 5/19/2008 12:31:46 PM | Yeah it' s ridiculous. Woman have taken woman's lib to some crazy extreme. It's not enough to be a being a strong, confident, capable woman. If they can't have a penis too then they have to label themselves a hard ass **** and somehow that makes them "stronger". It's not difficult to step all over people with not a care except for yourself. Humility is WAY underrated these days. It's all about me and ego. That Meridith Brooks song didn't help at all either. | |
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| When did the title of B***h become a badge of honor? Posted: 5/19/2008 1:18:47 PM |
And yes, my theory is that she is one crazy ****, and i said that out loud - Just as said crazy **** walked back into the room - and i swear, it was like looking into the eyes of the devil. A drunk, rejected, redheaded devil. Who then stormed back out the room and leaves slamming the door behind her.
Much to everyone's delight, I imagine.
Kudos.. you did manage to make a nut case leave. Pat yourself on the back.. ask some friends to do so, too. Bet that party got much better afterwards. | |
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| When did the title of B***h become a badge of honor? Posted: 5/19/2008 2:26:38 PM |
Much to everyone's delight, I imagine.
No one was sad she left, no.
Kudos.. you did manage to make a nut case leave. Pat yourself on the back.. ask some friends to do so, too. Bet that party got much better afterwards.
I think she was going to leave anyway. I've seen her a couple times since then. She gives me the evil eye, and I do my best comical evil eye right back. | |
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| When did the title of B***h become a badge of honor? Posted: 5/19/2008 2:46:17 PM | | Because a lot of dull people, this time the majority being women, needed something punchy to justify and make sound better their repugnant attitudes. They're not being callous, self-centered dimwits with the personal skills of a PCP addict, they're "independant and assertive". The only problem is that they don't actually know the difference between a smart woman who's actually independant and assertive, and their own dumb selves. | |
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| When did the title of B***h become a badge of honor? Posted: 5/19/2008 2:53:25 PM |
Because a lot of dull people, this time the majority being women, needed something punchy to justify and make sound better their repugnant attitudes. They're not being callous, self-centered dimwits with the personal skills of a PCP addict, they're "independant and assertive". The only problem is that they don't actually know the difference between a smart woman who's actually independant and assertive, and their own dumb selves.
yup. They may also be genuinely proud of being an ***hole. That happens once in a while too. | |
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| When did the title of B***h become a badge of honor? Posted: 6/20/2008 5:30:15 AM | | i guess it depends on your meaning of b***h, as i believe i was just born to be one, i am very opinionated and open about what i think, i say it weather you will like to hear it or not, and yes i have had a few slaps from it, but hey i like pain.....it also depends on how you say it i think, i am the first to call myself a b***h and laugh it off, its just in my nature, my always said to me, doesnt matter what you say its how you say it | |
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| When did the title of B***h become a badge of honor? Posted: 6/20/2008 6:10:24 AM | When did the title of B***h become a badge of honor?
It is not a badge of honor. If a man ever called me one he is gone for good. i will not accept an apology for that. if a man is gonna call a woman a b i t c h then he is not worth the woman's time or energy to begin with. its time for him ot grow up and learn that name calling is unacceptable and childish. | |
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| When did the title of B***h become a badge of honor? Posted: 6/20/2008 1:23:22 PM |
When did the title of B***h become a badge of honor?
It is not a badge of honor. Maybe not to you and to most reasonable people, but take a look around you sometime. Go to the mall and see how many tee-shirts with something along the lines of "B!TCH AND PROUD OF IT" written on them you see. There are lots of 'em around.
My personal opinion is that people who cop an attitude like that and seem to be proud of their own boorish behavior are trying to hide some serious self-confidence and security issues behind a veneer of poor behavior, as though putting other people down builds themselves up.
The truly confident people out there are the ones that are people-magnets. Perhaps, on occasion, they'll be called names for standing up for themselves, but they don't go around saying how proud they are to be jerks, either. | |
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| When did the title of B***h become a badge of honor? Posted: 6/20/2008 2:07:05 PM | Go to the mall and see how many tee-shirts with something along the lines of "B!TCH AND PROUD OF IT" written on them you see. There are lots of 'em around.
You are right about that. But all that says to me is they need a personatliy . It shows bad attitude right up front. Not someone I would be interested in knowing. | |
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| When did the title of B***h become a badge of honor? Posted: 6/20/2008 2:18:32 PM |
and yes, my female friends do stand up for themselves, most are educated, in grad school, or professional women and it just doesn't happen to them because they are good with people. They are very good at getting you to appologize for being a douchebag though..
And since doing this takes so much more effort when a guy steps over the line, the lazier women would rather turn it around and say, "that bad word you tried to call me, well, it's a good word." The ladies who go the extra mile, will confront the bad behavior and get an appology, not white wash it by relabeling an intended insult. This, however is a lost art for many. | |
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