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 FistnCuffs

Joined: 10/13/2006
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Posted: 6/2/2007 10:36:40 AM
*holds optimisms hair aside while she pukes*
 RoseBoots

Joined: 6/24/2006
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Posted: 6/2/2007 7:51:29 PM
I always check expiry dates when shopping.
Did you know that even face creams, hand creams, suntan lotion, etc, have expiry dates? The date is not always ink stamped on the product. For example, a tube of hand cream. Check the "pinched" end of the tube, and you will see an expiry date engraved in the plastic.
 a_sweet_fishy

Joined: 3/11/2006
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Posted: 6/2/2007 8:04:38 PM
This is one of the biggest battles at my house!!! I use things past the dates all the time.....generally only if it is sealed though. However, my husband starts freaking and tosses stuff a day or two before the date just to be safe. I have been known to tear off dates, cover them up, smudge them out, etc. just to protect perfectly good food from the insanity that is my husband!!! I say, if it looks good, smells good, tastes good, eat it. Most cases of food poisoning are pretty mild anyway (and I have never got sick on my own food, only when going out to eat). If you do get sick, tough it out, remember where you got it and never eat there again. :)
 optimismnlaughter

Joined: 4/3/2006
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Posted: 6/2/2007 8:16:48 PM
Thank you sweetie.. I feel ever so much better... Yes my hair did get rather long, Fistncuffs whew..but that wasn't needed..
 FistnCuffs

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Posted: 6/2/2007 8:58:30 PM
get food poisoning much sweet fishy?...take a course in safe food handling...sheesh...whats worth more?...a days lost wages cuz you were too sick to go to work or a 2 buck bottle of bloody salad dressing?
there was a self proclaimed "chef" posting on here before about storing food etc...he claimed that cooked rice was ok to eat if left at room temp overnight...9 times outta 10 it probbly would be ok but its that tenth time that kinda scares me...the rice...would look ok...smell ok and probably even taste ok but there is a potentially lethal enzyme that grows quite rapidly in cooked rice...now get a grip...toss it out
 rk92559

Joined: 2/16/2007
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Posted: 6/2/2007 9:04:05 PM
How can you tell Bleu Cheese is bad??? And I have been guilty leaving out rice in a Jumbalaya and no ill effects yet. And the Vietnamese armies ran on rice that was precooked and carried for days as rations. But as always...better safe than sorry.
 a_sweet_fishy

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Posted: 6/2/2007 9:10:38 PM
get food poisoning much sweet fishy?...take a course in safe food handling...


Welllllllll............as I stated, never from my own food. Last time I had food poisoning was from my husband's favorite restaurant (go figure, Mr. food psycho himself) and I was 7 months pregnant with our youngest. Did I THINK I was gonna die? Oh hell yeah! Did I? Nope!!! Neither did he, he is almost 6 now, so I suppose we both survived it alright. I don't need a course in safe food handling. I am super picky about EVERYTHING in my kitchen EXCEPT dates on unopened food. If it is recently out of date you will be fine!!!

Oh, and I never said I thought leaving food out overnight was alright. I never leave out leftovers. In fact, we seldom eat them anyway becasue I am paranoid about it. The garbage disposal has to eat too, you know!!!!
 FistnCuffs

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Posted: 6/3/2007 5:07:13 AM
an online course in food handling might be an eye opener for you...i am not sayin you are lax in your habits...but a bit of info ...something you dont already know...if it prevents a case of the trots or pukin your guts out... might not be a bad thing
 lfrs

Joined: 5/28/2007
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Posted: 6/3/2007 5:39:52 AM
Some products don't have the 'Shelf Life' that other products do......same goes for ingredients.

Just how LONG are you talking about?????? Does the entire bottle look clean, or does the top have a 'gook' around it??????

You can always try it, and if it doesn't make you SICK, then you might can chance it again............If I makes you SICK, then toss it.......

 RoseBoots

Joined: 6/24/2006
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Posted: 6/3/2007 6:36:15 AM
I don't understand the "try it and if it makes you sick throw it out" theory. Why would anyone ever take that chance. You rarely get a second chance with botulism.
 RoseBoots

Joined: 6/24/2006
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Posted: 6/3/2007 6:56:49 AM
P.S. all of this over a $3.00 item??
 Outdoor2

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Posted: 6/3/2007 8:42:56 AM
Hand lotion has an expiry date??? LOL...that's a funny one!

For all of you that think you must toss out anything on the "expiry date", must also conclude that the corporations that stamp the date are benevolent entities that do so solely for your own good.

P.S. all of this over a $3.00 item??

What's three bucks?....times hundreds of thousands of bottles....corporate profits!
 FistnCuffs

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Posted: 6/3/2007 8:57:57 AM
lets see...3 bucks...or a days lost wages cuz yer sick?...hmm...thats a hard choice
 RoseBoots

Joined: 6/24/2006
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Posted: 6/3/2007 9:10:13 AM
outdoor2, I was not talking from the business point of view, I was talking about my health.
fistncuffs.. my point, exactly, or worse yet... DEAD!!
 rk92559

Joined: 2/16/2007
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Posted: 6/3/2007 9:24:05 AM

For all of you that think you must toss out anything on the "expiry date", must also conclude that the corporations that stamp the date are benevolent entities that do so solely for your own good


They are required to put those dates on the product. The FDA has some conspiracy to keep us from eating rotten food?? All the Bread product, and chip vendors have to stale out what is expired and replace it with fresh product...the stale goes in the dumpster. Great profit there.
 Outdoor2

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Posted: 6/3/2007 10:13:09 AM

They are required to put those dates on the product.

No they are not.


Q: Should all food containers have dates on them?

A: There is no uniform system for food dating in the United States. Except for infant formula and some baby food, product dating is not required by federal regulations. Dating of foods is only required by about 20 states right now. Federal regulations do say, however, if a calendar date is used, it must express both the month and the day of the month. In the case of shelf-stable and frozen products, the calendar date, if used, must also include the year. If this calendar is used, there must also be a phrase next to it explaining the meaning of the date, such as �sell by� or �use before.�

Dates found on foods may be �open dating� or �closed� or coded dating. Open dating is the use of a calendar date that the consumer can understand. In general, open dating is found primarily on perishable foods such as meat, poultry, eggs and dairy products. Closed or coded dates might appear on shelf-stable foods such as cans, boxes, bags, etc.

Q: Can I eat a food after the �sell-by� date has expired?

A: A �Sell-By� or �Expiration� or �Use By� date tells the store how long to display a product for sale. Buy a product before a �sell by� or �use by� date, but it is still safe to use if it is wholesome and of good quality. Some foods, like fresh meats and poultry, last 1 to 2 days after the sell-by date, if kept properly refrigerated at all times � such as during transportation, display for sale, and storage at home. Other foods may last 3 to 4 days, or even a week, after the sell-by date expires. It is best to consult a home food storage chart for specific foods.

A �Best if Used By� or �Best if Used Before� date is the date to use for eating the food at its best quality or flavor. It is not a purchase date or date of final safety.

A �Use By� date is the last date recommended for the use of a food product. The date has been determined by the manufacturer and indicates the last date for peak quality. Do not use a product after the �use by� date.

Foods can develop off odors, flavor or appearance due to spoilage bacteria. If a food has developed any of these characteristics, do not use it, regardless of the date on the package. Mishandling of fresh foods can also change the safe storage time of foods regardless of package dates. Leaving perishable foods (those that require refrigerated storage) at room temperature or warmer for too long is one way of mishandling food. Defrosting at room temperature more than 2 hours, leaving foods out of coolers or refrigerators at picnics or parties, taking too long to get refrigerated or frozen foods home and refrigerated after purchase, or using contaminated cutting boards or utensils are other ways of mishandling foods in ways that shorten their safe storage times.

Q: How does dating of infant formula and baby food work?

A: Federal regulations require a �Use by� date on infant formula and baby food under FDA inspection. Nutrient retention is a key factor in dating of infant formula. If consumed by the �use-by� date, the formula must contain at least the quantity of each nutrient as described on the label. Formula must retain a quality that allows it to pass through an ordinary bottle nipple. (If stored too long, formula can separate and clog the nipple.)

Dating of baby food is for quality as well as nutrient retention. The same rule about retention of nutrients in infant formula applies to baby food. Development of off-flavors or poor texture is also considered. Product analyses are done throughout storage tests to help manufacturers select a �use-by� date. The conditions of storage, preparation and use as given on the label would have to apply.

Do not buy or use infant formula or baby foods after the �use-by� date.

Q: Can I use eggs after the expiration date?

A: If an egg carton has an expiration date printed on it, such as �EXP May 14,� do not purchase eggs after that date. It is the last day that the store may sell the eggs as fresh. On eggs with a federal grademark, such as Grade A or Grade AA, the date cannot be more than 30 days from the day the eggs were packed into the carton.

As long as you buy eggs before the expiration date, you should be able to safely use the eggs for 3 to 5 weeks after the date you purchase them. Fresh eggs should be taken home immediately from the store and refrigerated right away. Store in the refrigerator at 40 degrees F or below.


So...eggs have a store expiry date....but they haven't "expired"?

If you handle foods properly, they will last long after the date.

The dates for many things are a litigation-prevention measure, not a consumer-protection measure.
 FistnCuffs

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Posted: 6/3/2007 12:30:05 PM
dude...in most civilized countries consumer safety is NUMBER ONE...you might wanna check your info...or ask a local food safety inspector
 Outdoor2

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Posted: 6/3/2007 1:00:49 PM
That info came from here....
http://www.fcs.uga.edu/pubs/current/FDNS-E-34-2.html

"...in most civilized countries consumer safety is NUMBER ONE..."

I beg to differ....research codex alimentarius.
 rk92559

Joined: 2/16/2007
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Posted: 6/3/2007 1:14:26 PM
Ya..we get it. The Evil corporations are out to get us...probably some botulism conspiracy to reveal the shapeshifting reptiles or something. Common sense might take ahold here...if that bottle of salad dressing is older than one of your kids...it might not be good. if a peeping sound is coming from those eggs, either fatten them up for BBQing or toss them. If the cottage cheese has fur on it...pay no mind to the expiration date...it was spoiled to begin with.
 FistnCuffs

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Posted: 6/3/2007 2:04:30 PM
any potentially hazardous food is required by law to have a best before date...abd fyi there are certain types of bacteria that can and do breed in an oxygen free environment...gawd...all this foo faw over a gawd damn bottle of freakin salad dressing...throw the crap out already...make your own
 a_sweet_fishy

Joined: 3/11/2006
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Posted: 6/3/2007 3:40:46 PM
Actually it isn't over a bottle of salad dressing. It STARTED that way, but has turned into a forum about the safety of using foods beyond their dates......

While there are bacteria that can and do breed in oxygen free environments, they have to be there to begin with. Most food is packed sterile. The bacteria has to get inside in order to breed. You don't get multiple bunnies in a bunny free environment, you don't get multiple bacteria in a bacteria free environment. If the seal starts to break down in a certain period of time or is an imperfect seal to begin with (eggs for instance) you have to be far more careful (though even eggs are perfectly safe long after their date). However, most unopened foods are safe for quite awhile past the date.
 whats_in_a_name

Joined: 1/24/2007
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Posted: 6/3/2007 3:47:57 PM
I've eaten salad dressing that was backdated by a few months, if not years... and I'm still alive to talk about it... OK I do have some green wiggly stuff crawling everywhere under my skin, but I'm sure it's not related... :-þ

What could actually "expire" in salad dressing? It's oil, vinegar, and some spices... Puh-lease!

Also mayonnaise... I've eaten some that was backdated by a month or more... No problem!

Smell it and see how it feels... If it smells bad, then throw it away! ;-)
 rk92559

Joined: 2/16/2007
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Posted: 6/3/2007 3:54:42 PM
Evidently..if it contains Vinegar your alright. The Steamboat Arabia was found under a cornfield (the old river Channel) it sunk around the Civil War. It was a merchant ship, and they made a cool museum of all the stuff they found buried in the muck. One of the workers found a jar of pickles that had been buried for 130 years, opened the top...and to everyones shock...took a bite of one... He said it wasn't bad..lol
 onesimpleneed

Joined: 3/7/2007
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Posted: 6/3/2007 4:22:48 PM
I'm actually a real stickler when it comes to ex dates, if its past it, it gets chucked. The one thing that never has to be worried about is beer...hmm...

Cheers!
 nardo123

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Posted: 7/16/2007 9:28:50 PM
It is soooo much easier to make your own dressing. If you're at a dinner party, and you see that the dressing has passed it's expiry date, just ask for oil and vinegar...boring but safe. If the dressing is cream of something, take a pass.
If it's Italian or similar, it won't kill you.
Every time I have friends over, I just make enough for the night...it can also be a good marinade. There are so many SIMPLE dressings to make, your options are limitless!
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