| Science & Astrology, You aren't the sign you think you are :)
Posted: 4/7/2007 9:04:57 AM | Ahhhh...Saturn in Cappy!... Keeps imagination down to earth and determined to climb in career, though hiding any fear of failure, masking it. I often find Saturn in Cappy with those who would sooner work under a large organisation, as an insurance, a financial umbrella, to go with the flow, rather than put themselves out as one who will be self-employed, whereby failure can be self-earned, the bucks stops at the top!
So your Aquarian Sun in 2nd. gives you a strong sense of pride, as to how you finance yourself within the future... I bet you would hate to have to beg for assistance, financially!...
I love it when you wink and smile...Here's looking at you, Kid...lol. | |
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| Science & Astrology, You aren't the sign you think you are :)
Posted: 4/7/2007 7:12:30 PM | oh darling Starpoet,
it is all more complicated than that ..
hm, think i'll grab a beer while i reveal myself ;)
Jupiter & Saturn in Capricorn conjunct, in the 12th &, to the Ascendant,
Sun in Aquarius conjunct to the Moon, Chiron, Pan & Mercury in Pisces in the 1st,
Venus in Aries in the 2nd, more or less void,
Mars in Cancer in the 5th,
Uranus in Leo & Pluto in Virgo in the 7th
& Neptune in Scorpio in the 9th
:) & ;) 
yes, darlin', it's tough being me
& ha ha, am I the sign I think i am
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| Science & Astrology, You aren't the sign you think you are :)
Posted: 5/5/2008 10:01:20 AM | You also must remember that the signs that the planets as well as your moon has to do with it as well i studied astrology for awhile. I also find for most people that the chinese astrology sign is more accurate. But tarot is still my top pick!!! | |
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| Science & Astrology, You aren't the sign you think you are :)
Posted: 5/5/2008 10:38:14 AM | I think the fact that this is in the religion section rather than the science pretty much says everything that needs to be said. Is there a section for "Utter Bunk"?
lol... Until science can show me emotions and reasonability in a bottle, I do not have much faith in science... The thing is, science condemns without proof, while psychology prooves one needs to be condemned... Next?
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| Science & Astrology, You aren't the sign you think you are :)
Posted: 5/5/2008 4:06:26 PM | RE msg 1 by atypical_in_texas (the OP):
So, for those of you that take stock in astrology or have had a passing interest in Astrology over the course of your life, let me share with you the best kept secret that's not a secret. Whatever Zodiac sign you've been thinking you were born under all your life……it's wrong. In fact, thanks to a scientific occurrence called the Precession of the Equinoxes, we are all actually one sign removed from our actual sign. This is what passes for a secret amongst astronomers? This is common knowledge in professional astrological circles. Heck, I just used to work on a phone line, giving readings for entertainment purposes, and everyone knew it, and this was among people who mostly just took the job for some part-time evening work. Let me let YOU in on the best kept secret that's not a secret. Whatever is the latest astronomical discovery, people who take astrology seriously have read about it, or heard about it from other astrologers.
There are some people who claim to know about astrology, and don't know much about what goes on, I will definitely agree with that. But 99% of them have never used an ephemeris, and if they did make up a natal chart for someone, they got one off the internet. Really not good people to get a chart from, especially when you can read it yourself, and do a better job of it.
I don't hold the with the precession thing myself, because I'm such a typical Scorpio, it beggars belief, and it fits my observations of most people pretty well. But I don't just use books to understand people. I use real life as my testing ground. If it is in real life, and it's not in the books, then IMHO those books weren't written very well. But who writes books that well nowadays, anyway?
RE msg 4 by atypical_in_texas (the OP):
Man, you'd be surprised how much stock even the casual person on the street puts into their horoscope or about what magazines say about their personality based off their Zodiac. I totally agree. But have you seen how many people read their horoscope in the local newspaper, and imagine it was written just for them, when it was written for at least 5 million people in the UK alone, and about 25 million in the USA? This reminds me of when I was working for that phone line I mentioned earlier. About 10% of the callers wanted a genuine reading. 85% were women whose husbands left them, and just wanted to hear that he was coming back. The other 5% were young guys who wanted to know what their girlfriend looked like. Yet the company I worked for charged $1 a minute, and I would regularly keep these people on for 30 minutes. That's $30, just to hear whatever you wanted to be true, for 9 out of 10 people in the UK. The USA callers were far worse. I switched to a line that took callers for the USA for a few months. They were women who wanted to know if their boyfriend was cheating on them, and they had at least 1 boyfriend on the side, often 2, sometimes more. I kid you not.
This experience taught me more about people's actual views on dating that almost anything else. Most people use astrology to reassure themselves of what they believed all along. The ones who actually take it seriously, take it with a pinch of salt. Something to bear in mind, just in case it might be true, but nothing more than that.
I've mentioned this to some random people and am usually greeted with some hostility at presenting the very idea that they aren't what they've been reading about for years. Try it for yourself! I never thought people would be so disappointed at learning their true birth sign. I feel like the destroyer of worlds sometimes so I don't bother mentioning it anymore. :) Good idea. As I put earlier, 90% of people are only interested in hearing what they want to believe, anyway. You would have the same reaction if you told them that their sign isn't quite what it is painted out to be by the popular media, like that Pisces only seem to be dreamy as a way of hiding how clued-up they really are, or how Scorpios are far more obsessed with the afterlife than they are ever obsessed about sex, or how at least one book on astrology from the 1950s pointed out how many doctors were Scorpios, because it involves death, insight, and extremes of effort, all Scorpio traits.
I've never believed in Astrology and I don't think many people do, however I've learned a great deal of the population seems to really hang on to the romance of the idea and it's not to be trifled with. That is because 90% of people only want to hear what they want to believe is true. That is what popular romance is all about. Real romance is totally unromantic to most people. My sister was overjoyed when she went over to one of her boyfriend's house, opened the fridge, and found a big bag of carrots in there, all because she casually mentioned to him that she liked carrots the other week. She raved on about that all the time, long after she broke up with him. That is the sort of thing women never seem to forget. But you'll never see that in a Hollywood film, because it is just not exciting enough for an audience.
RE msg 34 by CharlesEdm:
Geeze thats a lot of nonsence to memorize, tell me where do Zodiac signs appear as a diagnostic tool in legitimate psychology. Well, I'm sure they aren't mentioned in Popular Psychology, or whatever psychologists read. But I did read a book about astrology that quoted Jung as saying that a proper astrological birth chart shaved 2 full years off the psychotherapeutic process for his treatment of patients. You don't have to trust Jung. After all, he is only the guy to come with the basis of the MBTI types that POF uses and businesses use, for some daft reason. But hey, corporations will spend money on anything. MacDonalds spent something like $20 million on designing a chair that people would naturally find uncomfortable after 20 minutes. Crazy. It works. But still crazy, eh?
RE msg 44 by CharlesEdm:
Gosh; I remember a time when Psychiatrists and Doctors laughed at Freud and Jung, for promoting outlandish ideas. Ummm they still do. | |
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| Science & Astrology, You aren't the sign you think you are :)
Posted: 5/7/2008 6:20:30 AM | Hello,
Im someone who studies astrology and from what i have come to know is this is just the sun sign you all are referring to. There are alot more info in your chart that make up who you are.. for example. You might be a Gemini but dont feel like you fit the description at all well maybe a lil. This may be for the fact that y0u have Leo in your chart in your Mercury or you might have Libra in your Mars
Each planet has its own sign and how it effects you
Moon = your emotional side
Mercury = your mental side how you think
Mars = your drive in life...work..etc...
Venus = your romantic side or how you relate to ppl
and etc...each one of those planets have a sign it could be all of one sign or scatter the combination is endless....
but this is what makes you all unique....the more extreme kinda ppl usualy have alot of one sign in all the planets ...like Bruce Lee had alot of Scorpio and fires signs
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| Science & Astrology, You aren't the sign you think you are :)
Posted: 5/8/2008 9:04:12 AM | That kind of makes sense, because I am far too cerebral and detached for my Pisces sun... Aquarius makes more sense as I am basically an "agape" person as opposed to an "eros".
Does this change just the sun sign or does it affect the planetary positions also?
Do I have to completely redo my chart? | |
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| Science & Astrology, You aren't the sign you think you are :)
Posted: 5/9/2008 9:12:18 AM | Yes it does effect your Sun sign but it all depends on how much the other sign is influencing it. I mean you could be Taurus but there is alot of Cancer in your chart which would effect you in a way that would make you seem to be more of a Cancer then Taurus even thoe you would still hold some of the traits of Taurus. It would have to when you were born, where, and what time ? The time is very important. This info alone would explain to you why might not follow your sun sign
If you seem to be alot like alot of people which would tell me your signs are spread out, meaning you have a different sign in each planet.
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| Science & Astrology, You aren't the sign you think you are :)
Posted: 5/9/2008 12:22:18 PM | | I have observed that people born under the different signs behave in certain distinct ways. My sign, Cancer, represents the key phrase 'I feel.' We, or I should say the human race, experiences a cycle of one great year every 25,000-odd years. The energies that influence human affairs come from twelve different sources - the twelve different signs of the zodiac. Not enough is known about the energies and their source to say that astrology is invalid due to the reason you stated. Although astrology is much more accessible via books and the internet, it remains a very arcane art. | |
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| Science & Astrology, You aren't the sign you think you are :)
Posted: 5/12/2008 6:06:20 AM | | Not all 12 signs but it all could be say taurus and mostly gemini with one libra. Or it could be Gemin sun and taurus moon and aries mercury and taurus Venus and Gemini mars. The mix could be something like Scorpio SUn and SCorpio moon, and aries mercury and tarus venus and scorpio mars etc....this can usually make a more intense kinda person because of the many scorpios in the chart. if it is more spread out with the signs can usualy mean they have a good spread of different signs in the chart. | |
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Posted: 5/13/2008 7:34:46 PM | Well, I believe in the old horoscope;'---
 What you are saying,---- DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENCE; ---- You have put a bug in the ears of alot of people; --- And they BELIEVE YOU;--- THAT MAKES THEM STUPID---- AND YOU-- A BAD PERSON; ---I KNOW better,--- AND WON'T FALL FOR THAT CRAP; | |
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| Science & Astrology, You aren't the sign you think you are :)
Posted: 5/13/2008 7:46:54 PM | Well, I believe in the old horoscope;'---
What you are saying,---- DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENCE; ---- You have put a bug in the ears of alot of people; --- And they BELIEVE YOU;--- THAT MAKES THEM STUPID---- AND YOU-- A BAD PERSON; ---I KNOW better,--- AND WON'T FALL FOR THAT CRAP; ---- I was born 8-25-45; -- I have a book-- SUPER HOROSCOPE--- I 'm on my 3rd edition, --I wore the other 2 out; --, That discribes me to a T; -- Dots the i & crosses the T; -- I have studied IT -FOR 25 YEARS, And this book is RIGHT 99% of the time;--- So what your saying, --- DOESN'T HOLD WATER; --- And the PEOPLE who BELIEVE you----ARE -STUPID; | |
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Posted: 5/16/2008 5:07:36 AM | andy7372
Science & Astrology, You aren't the sign you think you are :)
Posted: 5/13/2008 9 23 PM
jacel - I'm guessing you're not one of those placid water signs then?-------------------------
---Your right; I DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING THATS TOLD TO ME; I search for the TRUTH;--- Don't believe any ONE person;
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Science & Astrology, You aren't the sign you think you are :)
Posted: 5/13/2008 10:08:29 PM ----------------------------------------------------------
No he is a virgo, makes him analyize things way to much and very skeptical because of it but if he researched it he would know astrology is older then the bible.... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I do ANALYIZE everything; -- But, I do find the truth; -- And am every skeptical of people saying one thing,-- but meaning another; -- Like messing wish your mind; -- Like the OP of this sight; -- That's my opinion; -- The truth WORKS for me; | |
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Posted: 5/16/2008 6:57:20 AM | Truth works for me as wel, i would really like to say, that side of you is what makes you worry so much as well, those kinda things will make your stomach have problems as well as your bowels.
So if you read alot of astrology and done as many charts as i have done then you would know that doing your chart from the birthdate , year ,city born and time born. You could get alot of info about ones self from that alone but you would know quite alot about people and why they are the way they are.
I have done well over 400 charts for ppl and readings and only the ones who claimed i was wrong were the scoprios or the ones who had it in their chart with a strong influence. The reason being is that they are secretive kinda ppl so they wouldnt want you to have that kinda info lol.. | |
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