| Should a preacher meet tougher standards?
Posted: 6/16/2007 12:11:24 PM | "all religious fanatics are morons" .. say that again?
someone goes to church, or is even a preacher, makes them a "fanatic" and a "moron"? Dont think so.
I steer way clear of people with that kind of prejudice.
To answer the OP: I think anyone, whoever it is, should live up to the standards of their job and values. What those are is up to the individual.
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| Should a preacher meet tougher standards?
Posted: 6/17/2007 10:05:34 AM | | Hi ...i am a christian...and yes they should be held higher....because even christians are watching other christians....It is sad when that people dont walk the talk cause its whats they read the most....they want to see you live it. Im sorry he wasnt doing that in front of you...but just remember that God wont ask you how someone else acted and the choices they made....He will ask ...about us and our choices...and we will answer for our ways....important note....we will personally be accountable for Our actions only | |
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| Should a preacher meet tougher standards?
Posted: 6/17/2007 10:12:43 AM | | very well said, tastemeow. There is truth to the saying, "Actions speak louder than words," and if you're a christian, people thrive on your every move. | |
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| Should a preacher meet tougher standards?
Posted: 6/17/2007 11:32:18 AM | The church, IMO, is like an AA meeting....if you need the support to
believe in something you go to these meetings. There comes a time
when you are done with the steps program and you know what to
do and no longer needing that support. The guy heading the AA
meeting may have fallen off the wagon once or twice and maybe
will go through it again but he's still qualified to teach....he's only
human.
Nobody should pretend these religious heads are without sin....how many
have been convicted of sexual assaults, robberies, murders, drug dealing?
They have no super-human strengths. | |
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| Should a preacher meet tougher standards?
Posted: 7/5/2007 6:49:32 AM | very interesting reading here, heres my opinion for what its worth,
all humans are going to make mistakes, we are all going to fall at times, but if a person takes the position as ....preacher, minister, priest or whatever, i feel they have an obligation to strive for as close to perfection as possible, they have put themselves in a leadership role and people are depending on them for guidance. | |
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| Should a preacher meet tougher standards?
Posted: 7/5/2007 10:24:55 AM | As I see it, there are three aspects of his behaviour under question here.
1) Should he be seeking this kind of relationship?
Absolutely. Preachers are humans like the rest of us and and have the same right to seek and be happy in a relationship.
2) Should he act like you are just another visitor/should he 'keep his church life and personal life separate'?
I don't know exactly what happened when you attended his church, but I expect you took him by surprise. As for keeping church and personal life separate - that is reasonable. He'd rather his congregation not know that he is dating. As a preacher he is already under the spotlight. His personal life is no business of his congregation so long as he's not committing adultery or something. If it's important to you that his congregation know of your relationship then you should talk it over with him so that it is a joint decision, not something sprung on him so that he has to make split-second decisions.
3) Should he have said he was seeking a long-term relationship when he wanted Friends with Benefits?
No, probably not. I would have interpreted that in the same way you did. It's possible he really did mean it in the way he said he did, but I agree that it's misleading. That's something nobody should do, regardless of their vocation.
If it's wrong, it's wrong. It doesn't matter what your title is. But so long as everyone is quoting the bible, here's one: "Let those among you who are without sin throw the first stone." | |
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| Should a preacher meet tougher standards?
Posted: 7/5/2007 11:28:11 AM | Wow.
I have read some of your negative experiences with people that you know/knew from a church and I am blown away yet not at all surprised at the same time. Reading them strikes a particular chord with me because I have had some horrific experiences as well.
To the people that mentioned their bad experiences and to the people that havent mentioned them but had one:
That really stinks that you were hurt like that. Church is supposed to be a positive thing and someone that came near your path made it horrible for you. Not everything in life is fair, but the kind of hurt that's related to the people of a church seems to be extra-magnified in my opinion, you know? | |
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| Should a preacher meet tougher standards?
Posted: 7/5/2007 9:30:28 PM | First of all, I know I'm showing my ignorance here...but just what the heck does FWB stand for? I can usually figure this kind of stuff out, but this one has me stumped.
Now then....should a preacher be held to a higher standard?
Preachers are men or women just like all the rest of us. They face the exact same temptations that we all face. They are subject to falling for the same sins we are all subject to falling for. Does this excuse bad behavior? Of course not. What this does do is point out their need for honest self examination. Jesus said it best, "If you will judge yourself, you shall therefore not be judged. " . They should recognize their weakness and set up a network of a few trusted people to whom they submit, that will hold them accountable and keep them on the right path. Then again, that is what we all need. Perhaps the question we should be asking is, "Should we hold ourselves to a standard as high or higher than the one we wish to hold preachers to".
I truly believe that a preacher struggling with some sin (provided he is honest about his sinfullness) does not grieve the heart of God anywhere near as much as a preacher (or anyone who calls themself Christian) looking down their nose at another person. God reminds me constantly that He loves, values, and cherish's the meth addicted prostitute walking the street everybit as much as He does me. | |
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| Should a preacher meet tougher standards?
Posted: 7/6/2007 5:38:07 AM | I don't think a preacher should meet tougher standards than anyone else.
No-one should be allowed to be a jerk, but it's worse to preach to be good, and then be a jerk. | |
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