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Posted: 7/27/2007 3:32:45 AM | Or maybe, the fact that nobody's figured him out has been his fortune! LOL
I've seen him do really well, on occasion.....so obviously he CAN play, i'm just waiting for him to decide to consistantly want to do it....
I'm dreading Ellsbury becoming on of the "players to be named later" if the sox make a trade | |
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Posted: 7/27/2007 6:55:46 AM | | Won't happen with Ellsbury. He is one of very few relatively untouchables. After the speed he showed during his last call-up, he's even a more sure lock. When he scored from second on a passed ball, he showed not only speed, but base-running intelligence. Rare combination of skills. He has hit well over .300 at every level, including in his brief times with the Red Sox. | |
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Posted: 7/28/2007 11:49:15 AM | | F*** the Soxs!!!!! | |
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Posted: 7/28/2007 3:59:11 PM | Yes, Raider fans have so much to be proud of in their organization. And such eloquence - LOL.
Oh...btw, what are 'Soxs'?
Would that be like Raiderers? | |
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Posted: 7/29/2007 7:30:02 PM | Just wrote this to my bro and thought I would paste it here.
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Well August is almost here, and we are on the home (plate) stretch. Can we say wooooooooooo!!!
With 57 games left in the season, and a 64-41 record, our opponents are running out of options fast. We only have to win 26 more games out of that (not even HALF of our remaining games) to reach 90 wins. We can definitely win more than that, it will go up to 100 wins for sure! Who's done that and not advanced in the postseason?
Only 6 games left against the yankees, which means they have to win AND we have to lose on the other games for them to gain ground. This isnt a freak-week where one team has just had a "good week". The BoSox have been on top of the majors almost every day this season.
We've been holding an 8 game lead over the yankees for a couple of weeks now. Thats nothing, you say. Look at the fact that FIVE teams in the AL have a better record than the yankees right now. So for them to go to the playoffs instead of us, they'd have to win just about every game. Anything can happen you say, but the probability of that happening is decreasing by the day.
The Yankees aren't the biggest threat right now. In the AL, the Tigers and the Angels are the teams to watch.
I think this year it will be an "early decision" for the Sox to be in the ALCS. Maybe that might be a stretch, but it wont go to the wire. But for the second team it will be a much closer race. | |
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Posted: 7/29/2007 8:49:17 PM | I never count out the Yanks, but it will be very difficult for them to catch the Sox now. The Yanks would have to play terrific ball the remainder of the season, and the Sox would have to tank.
With Schill coming back, our biggest concern remains leaving runners stranded. An occasional offensive 'sleeper' night is a bit worrisome, too. Overall....If the Sox go 35-22 the rest of the season (an easily attainable record), the Yanks will remain over 6 games back, and not likely to make the postseason. | |
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Posted: 7/29/2007 9:01:16 PM | Stop letting them get to you. Just like the terrorists in the middle east, you let them win when you concede your vulnerability to them. You have no more chance of them winning or losing than any other team out there, and consequently should have no more concern about them than any other team. C'mon guys, get over it!!
Sure we have our weak spots, so does every team. Like I said, at the moment, the Angels and the Tigers are the ones to definitely watch. Who gives a toss about the yanks? Saying "I never count out the Yanks" sounds just like a yankees fan! | |
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Posted: 7/30/2007 5:48:07 AM | Apparently history means nothing to you.
To say the Yankees are no different than any other team is tantamount to saying the old Celtics teams were no different than other teams in the league back in their heyday. There are certain teams in nearly every sport that seem to thrive on the pressure of the chase, and are particularly adept at doing whatever needs to be done to get in the race, regardless of how far back they are or whether they should be able to.
The old Celtics, the current New England Patriots, and the old Montreal Canadiens are just a few examples of teams that smelled blood when 'crunch time' hit.
That attribute is what explains how a Canadiens team that barely qualified for the playoffs on the last two days of the regular season not only beat, but SWEPT a Bruins team that DESTROYED the league and all of its scoring records during the regular season. That Bruins team boasted 7 of the league's top 10 scorers, the best pair of defensemen, and the #'s 2 AND 3 goalies in the league. Yet, Les Habitants swept them and went on to win the Stanley Cup.
Celtics teams that were down 3-1 in a series against teams of superior talent that came back to win the series and the NBA Championship.
And, yes, Yankee teams that everyone thought were toasted, coming back to make the playoffs...quite recently. The Yankees have a tough road, but they are not out of it as long as Georgie Boy still has his wallet. If the Sox don't stay healthy, and the Yanks pick up a key player or two, it could get interesting.
Do I THINK it will happen ? NO.
COULD it happen? ABSOLUTELY. To think otherwise is simply naive. | |
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Posted: 7/30/2007 10:17:53 AM | | I of course am a Sox fan and never count a Yanks/Sox pennant chase. However, I just think this is the year the Yanks won't do it. Sure, they have made it just slightly more interesting than a couple months back, but I think our pitching staff and bullpen is just way too good this year, a rarity for us Sox fans to say! By the way, I went to a Sox/Indians game last Wednesday..Fausto Carmona vs. Josh Beckett..we lost 1-0..a day after we BEAT the Indians 1-0..first back to back 1-0 games with a different winner in some 60+ years. I would love to face the Tribe again this October! And I am going to the AAA Columbus Clippers vs. Paw Sox game tomorrow night to see Schill make his final comeback appearance..can't wait! | |
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Posted: 7/30/2007 4:42:22 PM | #108:
before you go stabbing me in a public forum and insulting me (saying I obviously have no idea of history etc), let me make myself clear. I am more than aware of the past. However we aren't playing Last years' team, or 1991's team, or whatever team that might have been in the past. We're playing against the *2007* Yankees and other teams with their *2007* clubs. We need to stop giving them license to oppose us in an ALCS or postseason situation just because of their name and past legacy. The more you count them in, the more you ask for it just like a Yankees fan would.
"COULD it happen? ABSOLUTELY. To think otherwise is simply naive."
You obviously did not read my post before you went storming into your reply. It clearly says that "anything is possible, but the probability of that happening is decreasing by the day". And THAT is the truth.
And just to satisfy your hysteria and metaphysical "logic", the curse is lifted, remember?? Now go home and watch Georgie Boy. | |
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Posted: 7/31/2007 5:19:45 AM | OK, Bassgirl, let's get together on this. We agree in principle, just differ on some details.
First, I didn't 'stab you in a public forum', I disagreed with you. Nor did I say you 'have no idea of history'. What I DID do was say that history apparently didn't MEAN anything to you, which you again reiterated by saying that the accomplishments of teams past (last year, 1991, ...etc) mean nothing this year. I disagree. We can disagree, without getting nasty.
Also, I never took issue with your first post (#105), only the second (#107). I am in no state of hysteria, have no metaphysical logic (history is physical, not 'meta' physical), and never believed there WAS a curse. If I 'go home', it would be to Boston, where I grew up. The only time I watch Georgie Boy is when I revel in his team losing.
Now, again, we agree that it is not likely that the Yankees will catch up to us this year, or make the playoffs at all. However, in my opinion, to count them out is to get complacent. Complacency has killed the Sox before. I just want the Sox to remain focused on winning THEIR games, and doing all the liitle things that entails (which I don't feel they are doing right now).
So, Bassgirl, let's agree to disagree and root the Sox on together, and despise the 'evil empire' from our own perspectives.  | |
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Posted: 7/31/2007 5:23:11 AM | | BTW, Bassgirl, how does a cute girl from Bedford, Texas end up a Red Sox fan anyway - lol? | |
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Posted: 7/31/2007 1:34:44 PM | OK, Sox just got closer to sealing the East.
Though a deal for Dye would have been nice, getting Gagne locked up the best bullpen in MLB. The word is that Gagne and Pap will somewhat share closer duties, with Gagne also doing set-up. This provides insurance should Pap have any late year issues.
Gabbard leaving puts Lester solid in the 5 hole in the rotation. I hope he is ready. He seems to still have problems after the 5th inning, a problem Gabbard did not have.
The worst problem is that Wily Mo is still here. Who knows, maybe his recent success is a harbinger of things to come, though I won't hold my breath. Maybe Tito will try to give him more consistent AB's...the ones said to have been promised to Dye by rotating him around the OF and DH. He is nowhere close to Dye defensively, and Dye could also play a little first base (don't want to think about Wily Mo at first - lol...though he IS a big target). | |
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Posted: 7/31/2007 4:19:28 PM | You did raise one valid point about teams buying/acquiring players being able to change things. But the prospect of that with the trade deadline etc, didnt worry me. I knew we were going to be OK. I've seen Gagne in action here in Texas, he's pretty good.
I still believe that this year's team and circumstances and chances have nothing to do with "history" or any kind of historical fact. Previous seasons have no relevance as far as the scorecard goes. Besides, once you go back more than about 5 years, teams look now almost nothing like they did then. Perhaps you can tell the group how that would affect our chances now.
How? I'm not from Texas, I just live here. If I "went home" it would be to new england too. I'd bolt there in a minute if I had the chance. | |
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Posted: 8/1/2007 5:24:34 AM | I am not thrilled about the Gagne deal but hey, Theo obviously knows something if he got us to the promised land 3 years ago. We have Papelbon and yes, he could have an injury like the end of last year..but every pitcher can go through that. And Gagne will be sharing closing duties with Pap? And they are both ok with that? And we are paying closer money to someone who will be basically a part time setup guy? What about Okajima? I was really hoping for one solid bat to get us through, since pitching has not been our weakness this year. When I heard about a possibility of a deal for Dye on Monday night I was pretty excited..just what we need (of course a shortstop would be nice too though....). But if Gagne and Papelbon can keep the egos in check who knows maybe this could work? I also don't like losing Gabbard..he is horrid on the road but at Fenway he was pretty much lights out through at least 6 innings. If he could learn a little command on the road I think he had the stuff to become a good 3rd man. Oh well.
And I was at the Clippers/Paw Sox game last night..Schilling looked GREAT! Of course, any pitcher with experience at the big show should look great against AAA hitting, but I mean his location and velocity were his regular stuff. He gave up 4 hits and no runs in 7 innings. Paw Sox beat the clippers 5-4, because the relief dude who came in to relieve Schill was..lets just say..pretty bad. Was like being in BOSTON in Columbus though..was at least 75% Sox fans until Schill left..then the Sox fans left. Except me :) | |
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Posted: 8/1/2007 9:36:41 PM | I don't think egos are going to be a problem. Pap knows he needs to rest occasionally, and the Sox have used Okajima to close when Pap was not available. That is the role I see Gagne in, when he closes. It was exciting to see Gagne's comments upon his arrival in Boston today. When he addressed the closer issue, he reiterated that he want s to close, but he wants a shot at the WS even more. He said, "I will approach things the same way as always. I will prepare to close. I will just be closing the 8th inning."
If he is sincere, that makes the back end of the bullpen pretty incredible. With Schilling back, and looking to be in the best shape he's been in for quite some time, now we need the offense to wake up. We will still need both to finish strong, and even more so in the playoffs. | |
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Posted: 8/5/2007 9:37:17 PM | | I'm almost as thrilled to see Gagne on board as I am to see Gabbard go. I never had a good feeling about Gabbard- he performed well in Boston, but I don't see him being very consistent down the road. His trade value got about as high as it was going to get. We definitely got the better end of that deal. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2007 6:41:13 AM | I suppose you are right about Gabbard, but he had some guts and grit to his character. He ate up some good innings. I was, and am, concerned about Lester. He still has difficulty going more than 4-5 innings without running into serious trouble. I am still not sure his better role wouldn't be long relief.
It should get interesting now, with Scilling back tonight. The Sox will have what most have felt would be there 'real' rotation now. If Schill is up to snuff, the Sox will be tough to beat down the stretch. They need to play good ball through the tough part of the schedule in August. Taking the Mariners two out of three in Safeco was a nice start. They just need to keep winning series, and they will be fine. | |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 1:48:12 PM | I think Boston will win the series this year.
Yankees had their day of glory | |
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Posted: 8/9/2007 5:16:47 PM | The lead is down to 6 games. lol
Lucky my Jays demolished the Yankees last nite to help Boston out.
I cant stand A Rod...but i do want NY to take Boston. | |
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Posted: 8/10/2007 6:33:07 AM | It could get interesting. It's funny, though, to get worried because the lead is 'down' to 'only' 6 games. Most years, any team would be considered 'comfortably' leading by 6 games this late in the year. But, I agree that it is not impossible by any stretch for the Yanks to make a good run at the Sox, especially with the upcoming series between the two in Yankee Stadium at the end of the month.
I still think pitching will determine who finishes the strongest. | |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 2:53:16 PM | down to 4 games now. That doesnt bother me.
You can say historically the yankees this, or traditionally the red sox that, or whatever, but we're talking 2007, and this year is different. How different? We'll just have to wait and see on that one. I still say that the Angels are the team to watch, right now only 7 percentage points separate us from them. I'm a lot more concerned about them than I am the yanks.
We have 45 games left and already have 70 wins. No other team in the majors has 70 wins right now. We could lose more than half of our remaining games (not going to happen, but just to illustrate) and still come out with 90+ wins. | |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 2:54:02 PM | 4 games back...woohoo.
I bet you sox fans are sweating. How's your blouse? | |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 5:26:35 PM | Anybody but New York!!! I love to see a team that spent SSOOOOO much money on their team get their butts handed to them. They have really crappy fans also. They are the worst when they visit other stadiums. I have never seen so much profanity and ugly attitudes with obscene T-shirts when the Yankee fans are at an away game!!! | |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 6:45:07 PM | ^^i am sure New Yorkers will have something to say about that....Boston is in the top of the league for funds spent on players as well.
A ROD has to be the most attitude player out there. Other than that Jeter and company rock. | |
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