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I witnessed a man discipling his dog in a manner that made me wonder if he disciplined his child in the same way.. it was very agressive and he was very stern in his voice.. he was not abusive to the dog however it got alot of people staring at him.

With the whole serial killer thing people are using the extreme... There is a trend with rapist and serial killers Torturing and Killing animals. Now depending on your defintion of torture, it's very different from what some people might precieve as being mean or "not-right" ...

ABUSE OF CHILDREN, ANIMALS AND SPOUSES IS OFTEN RELATED
There is an element of child abuse prevention that is being overlooked by too many people who deal with the cycle of family violence. ... The broader cycle I believe we need to address is the one that connects one violent individual to several vulnerable individuals – and animals – on the receiving end of his or her cruelty. Someone who batters an intimate partner is also likely to harm children, elders, family pets or any other vulnerable being. Likewise, if a family pet or neighborhood animal has been maltreated, chances are the individual who brought harm to the animal is connected in some way to mental, physical or emotional abuse taking place among people. For example, if little Johnnie strangles a cat in what is interpreted to be “child’s play,” chances are little Johnnie has witnessed or been the recipient of violence in his home. In order to protect our youngsters from family violence and to expand our prevention efforts, it is crucial that all of us recognize this connection between human abuse and animal cruelty. Research shows that violent acts are not separate and distinct, and that animal cruelty is a potential indicator of disturbed family relationships that often lead to violence among humans, including children. ...

Because we have learned that abusers are motivated by internal desires for power and control – not in a narrowly focused propensity to abuse children only, or animals only, or intimate partners only – we need to understand that abusers do not distinguish between victims. The challenges of protecting and nurturing our youngsters are certain to continue if we fail to recognize and address all of the varied, but related, forms of cruelty.
www.sheriff.org

Mahatma Gandhi said, "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Animals feel pain and fear like we do, but they are often helpless victims because they can't say what happened to them. In fact, some people choose to abuse animals instead of people for this very reason! ...
Animals in homes with family violence are also often victims of violence. One study1 found that animals were abused in 88 percent of the homes in which a child was abused. Another study found that 83 percent of families reported for animal abuse also had children at high risk of abuse or neglect. Although most of the abuse toward the animals came from the parents, about a quarter of abused children abuse animals.
http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=cruelty_kidsandcruelty

Animal Abuse: Part of the Cycle of Violence
Acts of violence directed against animals by children are among the earliest sentinel indicators of conduct disorder and manifestations of the intergenerational cycle of violence that researchers are just now coming to understand. "Cruelty to animals is a predictor of violent behavior, and as good a predictor as I have seen," says William Ritter, District Attorney for Denver, Colo. Anthropologist Margaret Mead has written that the worst thing that can happen to a child is to harm an animal - and get away with it.
Virtually all of the mass murderers and schoolyard killers of recent years had committed prior acts of animal abuse. When asked how many serial killers had a history of abusing animals, the FBI responded, "The real question should be, how many have not?"
Aggressive acts against any member of the family endanger all members, and put others in the community at risk as well. In households where there is animal abuse, there likely are other forms of abuse. Inter-agency collaboration may help reduce levels of violence.
http://www.animaltherapy.net/ChildAbuse.html

When you teach a child to be kind to animals, you help pave the way to a brighter future for all living beings. ... Children benefit because learning about compassion and empathy early in life builds moral character, reduces violence, and builds a sense of empowerment and responsibility. And society as a whole benefits when its members are more caring towards each other and the animals who live among us.
Animal cruelty is a heinous act punishable by law in every state, but in recent years, there has been increasing recognition of the link between animal cruelty and violence to other humans as well. …
Sadly, violence begets more violence, and those who start off abusing animals often end up abusing people too. People who deliberately abuse animals are five times more likely to commit violent crimes against people, four times more likely to commit property crimes, and three times more likely to have a record for drug abuse or disorderly conduct than those who don't, according to a study by American Humane. In fact, the FBI reportedly even uses reports of animal cruelty to assess the potential threat posed by suspected and known violent criminals.
http://www.charityguide.org/volunteer/fewhours/kind-to-animals.htm

..and so owning a pet prepares you for raising a child how????

so do you think that a way a man or women treats there pet(s) is any indication on how they may treat there child or future children?????? Esp when it comes to discipline???

....do you think that a way a man or women treats there pet(s) is any indication on how they may treat there child or future children??

Just to clarify as to why i asked this question is because I witnessed a man discipling his dog in a manner that made me wonder if he disciplined his child in the same way.. it was very agressive and he was very stern in his voice..

Like I said, when you are a parent, then you'll realize how ridiculous this all is, not even close.

But I will give you the extreme side of things....woman beats dog, woman beats kids.

..and so owning a pet prepares you for raising a child how????LMAO...

I've seen enough of it to know that there is a correlation.

Russell Weston Jr., tortured and killed 12 cats:
burned and cut off their tails, paws, ears; poured toxic
chemicals in their eyes to blind them; forced them to
ingest poison, hung them from trees (the noose loose
enough to create a slow and painful death.) Later
killed 2 officers at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, DC.

Jeffery Dahmer staked cats to trees and decapitated
dogs. Later he dissected boys, and kept their body
parts in the refrigerator. Murdered 17 men.

Kip Kinkle shot 25 classmates and killed several in
Springfield, Oregon. He killed his father and mother.
Said he blew up a cow once. Set a live cat on fire and
dragged the creature through the main street of town.
Classmates rated him as "Most Likely to Start WWIII.”

As a boy, Albert De Salvo, the "Boston Strangler,"
placed a dog and cat in a crate with a partition
between them. After starving the animals for days, he
removed the partition to watch them kill each other.
He raped and strangled 13 women. He often posed
bodies in a shocking manner after their murders.

Richard Allen Davis set numerous cats on fire. He
killed all of Polly Klaus' animals before abducting and
murdering Polly Klaus, aged 12, from her bedroom.
11-year-old Andrew Golden and 13-year-old

Mitchell Johnson tortured and killed dogs. On March
24, 1998, in Jonesboro, Arkansas, Golden and
Johnson shot and killed 4 students and 1 teacher during
a fire drill at their school.

Most serial killers have abused animals at some
point—By Kerry Kester, 2002 Cape Gazette
Luke Woodham, a 16-year-old boy, once described beating,
burning and torturing his dog to death as an act of °true
beauty.° Later, he slew his mother with a knife, murdered
two classmates and injured seven other people at school.

Jeffrey Dahmer had his mother’s permission to impale
dogs and stake cats in his back yard. When he moved from
abusing animals to humans, he opted to dismember the 17
boys and men before cannibalizing them.

Arthur Shawcross repeatedly threw a kitten into a
lake until the kitten drowned from exhaustion. Killed a
young girl. After serving 15-1/2 years in prison, he
killed 11 more women.

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The FBI has recognized the connection since the l970s, when bureau analysis of the life histories of imprisoned serial killers suggested that most, as children, had killed or tortured animals.

Anyways...refer to my ealier posts.