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 Zain.

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Posted: 6/21/2007 4:19:44 PM
The majority of DQ's comments are pretty much her own personal biases (she pretty much crossed the line when she started calling babies unattractive) a white person and an Indian getting together (where as the Indian does not have to be a millionaire) is not impossible to fathom since most of the defense of Indians is coming from OTHER WHITE PEOPLE
 iamasiam

Joined: 2/16/2007
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Posted: 6/21/2007 4:40:04 PM
This thread is funny.

Most of the poor statements are coming from people with lack of broader experiences. How unfortunate for them. It is a big world filled with many opportunties.

Anyway who gives a damn, we all die in the end.
 conrads

Joined: 5/2/2007
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Posted: 6/21/2007 5:35:47 PM
hey dancing queen you wanna go out?

And i wonder would white girls really find an indian guy attractive cause he has lots of money?

I'm indian and i always see white girls looking at me...not sure what it is...maybe they are just looking and laughing at my big ears or something
 thats true

Joined: 12/19/2006
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Posted: 6/21/2007 7:24:53 PM
I think if someone like Dancing Queen who appears to be blonde ( but we're not sure if the carpet matches the drapes) wanted to have blonde children then she would have to rule out a male parent who wasn't blonde. Whether children of mixed races are attractive or not is not a nice thing to discuss but I think I can't fault Dancing Queen for her opinions, she may represent those of her community, Orange County (known for rednecks) or whatever it is. Since she is from San Farancisco she probably might be referring to the Indians she sees there. Alot of them are computer scientists from India working in Silicon Valley and haven't caught on to the nuances of wetern life. But many Indian computer scientists helped build many of the great companies in Silicon Valley and were a large part of the engine of the US economic growth for many years employing hundreds of thousands of American caucasians. So if anything Friscopians or whatever you call yourselves should be eternally grateful to sweaty Indians banging code. I'm sure there are women who would line up to date some of these milllionaire and billionaire Indians. Otherwise, the pros of going with an Indian guy are partially for cultural reasons, they are not just out to use you for sex so you may have a chance at a real relationship.
 mizbex

Joined: 4/22/2007
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Posted: 6/22/2007 2:30:48 AM
^^^^The other issue with some Indian Men, is their condescending and chauvinistic addittude towards women. Real classy post here.^^^^^
 nicktomlinrhys

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Posted: 6/22/2007 4:53:29 AM
People are really getting a bit childish here but its good for a laugh if nothing else

Regarding blond kids of a white/Indian mix............it depends on the origin of that Indian .Even if both parents are white you do not always get blond kids .Italians rarely have blond kids and they are white aren't they ? Portugese rarely do .

Imran and Jemima Khans two boys were blond kids .Then we have our previous cricket captain Nasser Hussien who is a mixed race guy. Born in Madras but plays for us (England ). He is very fair and blue eyed.I wouldn't say he is blond blond but he is pretty fair . Nasser is always going on about being Indian and he always takes his team mates home for an Indian meal if they are near his parents home .No worries about smells..Why should there be ? Being a cricket fan..........take a look at Afridi of the Pakistani team.............very fair guy .

I don't know why certain people are splitting hairs of the skin tone of Indians or the blondness of the Indian mixed race kids etc.Its pretty comical when you consider the amount of mixed race black kids around and they are neither fair nor cauasian even if mixed .

Of course you are entitled to your own choice/opinion and so is DANCINGQUEEN .I don't understand why the pettiness ? Nor of the guy who thinks blonds are after him.Two of a kind there .lol

Theres plenty of Indian guys working with me,here and I really don't see them wanting to go out with anybody but Indian girls and all the statisical evidence points that way.There are 6 Italian guys here who want only Italian girls.There's one guy with me who is Italian and every girl in our dept asks him for dates.He won't ask them.Thats not his style .He turns them down but one blond girl persisted and he agreed after 6 months.Been going out for 2 years with her doing all the running and she is completely done in because he just doesn't want commitment and the reason is.................there's an Indian girl here that he likes and he is scared to approach her .
They chat for hours over the desks and its pretty obvious that theres attraction and its gone on for 3/4 years .
 dman_2007

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Posted: 6/22/2007 5:03:17 AM

^^^^The other issue with some Indian Men, is their condescending and chauvinistic addittude towards women. Real classy post here.^^^^^

hmm.. feeding your insatiable ego by putting others down, feel good now?
 thats true

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Posted: 6/22/2007 6:46:48 AM
to mizbex
"condescending and chauvinistic" "classy post"
thats an uninformed and unproved allegation. a generalization of hugely unintelligent proportions. I dont represent typical Indian men from India, since I grew in North America. If you don't find me classy then don't date me, not like we were going there anyways.
 Queenie81

Joined: 6/4/2007
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Posted: 6/22/2007 7:44:11 AM
Not just Indian! I'm only seem to be attratced to white men! apart from the odd hollywood star or pop artist ;) and this i believe is due to the fact of being brought up in a community of white people, most kids at school were white too etc etc
although my best friend at primary school has a white irish mother and father from mauritias (spellcheck) and he has turned out into a right studmuffin ;) and i definatly would if we wasn't such good friends ... some lucky girl will bag a true gent with him!
 mizbex

Joined: 4/22/2007
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Posted: 6/22/2007 5:26:50 PM
"thats an uninformed and unproved allegation. a generalization of hugely unintelligent proportions. I dont represent typical Indian men from India, since I grew in North America. If you don't find me classy then don't date me, not like we were going there anyways. "

True, unfortunately for you it is not a myth and you do little to dispell the "alleged" myth by your own posts right here on good old POF. My favorite is the "Hiring with your Pelvis" post. Classic.

Dman, dba, whatever...give it up.
 flowerforce

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Posted: 6/22/2007 5:57:42 PM
I dated an Indian fellow once. He was a lovely gentle man. We were at different stages in our lives and it did not work but I would have married him if we had continued and of course he asked. I often remember him with great fondness. If I met another Indian fellow I would certainly go out with him if he asked. I have also dated native Canadian men and Japinise men . It is the human being I am dateing not the colour of his skin. All relationships will have their difficulties and men and women come from different cultures any why so why not be with someone from a different culture if you want to be.
 thats true

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Posted: 6/22/2007 6:37:05 PM
mixbix

nothing you have said has had any substance, we are still waiting for you to say something that contributes to the discussion rather than personal attacks. I already saw you try to get Jonathan Doeman off the other post. I would rather stick to the topic its not about me. Thanks for admiring my classic posts but nothing you have said would remotely be considered classic.
 dman_2007

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Posted: 6/22/2007 9:31:40 PM

Dman, dba, whatever...give it up.[\quote]
that's the best you could come up with, come on you can do better than that, where's my share of personal attack and insults?
 mizbex

Joined: 4/22/2007
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Posted: 6/23/2007 8:06:05 AM
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"Why is it that many caucasian women in this town do not show an interest in indian guys? Now, I'm not talking about the stereotypical Apu but ... someone normal"

In my real life experience with Indian men, the ones that I have encountered, have a chauvinistic and condescending attitude towards women. - my comment to original post.

Thats true, your comments and posts completely support my feelings towards the Indian men that I have encountered. Thank you for proving my point.
 bellydancer18

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Posted: 6/23/2007 8:25:35 AM
AND white men are not chauvanistic? I have met very few men who see me as anything other than a sexy blonde with no brain who they can use for sex and little more. AND those are the white men. I get countless emails FROM WHITE MEN asking me for sex, telling me I'm hot, sexy, blah blah blah......I'v heard white men on these forums say ''there are some women you f u ck" and "some women you marry"......i have seen white men post that while they will use a fat girl for sex, they would never date one. The only white men who can get past the fact that i have blonde hair and boobs are the ones who I work with every day and whom get to know me on a personal, professional basis. But even at work i deal with some chauvanistic attitudes...one white man (republican) said John Kerry (during the last election) needed to slap his wife to keep her quiet and in her place. My own stepfather did not want my mother working outside the home and My ex who was white, did everything he could to belittle me and keep me at home in my place.

Sure there are cultural differences amongst all races. But, we can't judge one man by a whole race, cultural background, or religion. Every human is unique and an individual.
 thats true

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Posted: 6/23/2007 8:50:39 AM
Mizbex

feelings aren't really an argument, sorry I hurt your feelings. I'm sure Martin Luther King hurt the feelings of people wearing white sheets, I'm sure Gandhi hurt the feelings of British occupiers in the 40's. I was responding to Dancing Queen and she was saying some insensitive stuff, I don't believe I was addressing you. I reserve the right to treat people the way they treat me. If you are defending the hiring practices of hr departments versus visible minorities and calling me a chauvinist for doing so then you are defending racism. You haven't really given any examples of chauvinism. I suppose when men are assertive and criticise a woman it is chauvinism when women like yourself make personal attacks on men it is what, feminism?
 Jooly

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Posted: 6/23/2007 9:34:37 AM
Just a personal aside, really. I'm half Indian myself, and I've only ever been involved with two Indian guys (and one half Indian). For some reason I don't find many sub-continental men attractive compared to just about any other ethnic group, and I'm not sure why.

On the other hand, I have found two and a half Indian guys attractive (not just looks, but of course that's a part of attractive) enough to get involved with, so it's not a case of not being willing to give them a chance.

Just a bit strange, really, given my own ethnic background.
 mizbex

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Posted: 6/23/2007 10:53:40 AM
Thats true, you didn't hurt my feelings, you don't have the ability. No, I was not defending DQ, although she speaks a lot of truth which some people find difficult to deal with including you.

Pointing out your "Pelvis Post" is not my defending racism, I am not a racist nor a bigot, nor do I have anything against short men. My pointing out your "Pelvis Post" is just one example of your attitude towards women and how you respond if they don't believe that you are the end all be all. I suppose I could go through the forums and cut and paste all of your posts that are chauvinstic and condscending in nature but I don't have the time and it would be pointless anyway because people here on POF can go back and read them for themselves.

If you take my critiques of your posts as personal attacks than you are wrong. I am not personally attacking you, I am giving you my opinion on your posts. How could I be personally attacking you, that comment is just silly.

"I suppose when men are assertive and criticise a woman it is chauvinism when women like yourself make personal attacks on men it is what, feminism? "

^^^This statement is just asinine^^^^.

No, it is not feminism, it is a woman observing that someone might have an additude problem, which is by the way, is one of the leading reasons people don't get the job, they have a bad additude.

"If you are defending the hiring practices of hr departments versus visible minorities and calling me a chauvinist for doing so then you are defending racism. "

^^^This is also an asinine statement^^^^.

What really do you know about the hiring practices of her HR Department? Nothing. This is your observation of what you think is going on, which by the way, would be illegal if it were true, which I am sure it's not.

Lastly, please do not liken your behavior to that of Martin Luther King or Gandhi, how dare you put yourself in the company of two great men, shame on you.
 thats true

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Posted: 6/23/2007 11:40:33 AM
mixdix

blab bla bla. again no real comments from you except personal attacks, sarcastic comments, miss know it all platitudes etc.

Pretty much lowering the level of debate, if anyone's comments are assinine they are yours.

"what do you really know about the hiring practises of HR departments? nothing." which begs the question what do you know and the answer would also be of course nothing. Actually I do know alot about the hiring practices of HR departments and there have are lots of sociological studies which prove biases in hiring, sorry to disappoint you. As well, a poster on another thread already refuted that stupid line of argument, and you weren't paying attention or haven't learned anything.

Congrats you are agreeing with Dancing Queen who basically calls mixed babies ugly, and you are not a racist. Yes I am sure some people would find that difficult to deal with. Say that in a room full of mixed babies mothers and see if you can make it out of the room unscathed. As well, I don't completely disagree with Dancing Queen in her notion that wealth can attract women. At least she was arguing an issue. Your whole approach is to take sides and start bashing.

Obviously you are a miserable and bitter person, hence going from thread to thread making personal attacks on people. Really you should see a pyschologist before you put yourself on a dating website and pass yourself off as a worthy of dating.

re: pelvis post. There was no pelvis post, those are your words. The whole post was not on the topic of pelvises, the word was never used. That was a different thread and different topic but you don't seem to see a difference between one thread and another, why would you, you don't argue topics just attack people.

so you are bitter about something in your past, openly insult racial minorities who have had to deal with hundreds of years of systemic bigtory including occupation of their land by another country, have nothing of value to contribute to forums and hate intelligent men with self esteem ...I guess that makes you what, quite the catch?

the beauty of it all is you are going to respond with another personal attack wasting everyone's time.
 mizbex

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Posted: 6/23/2007 11:55:59 AM
The following was posted by thats true 6/21/07



Please read the following:

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thats true Posted: 6/21/2007 1:03:21 PM
regarding whether men created the world we live in:

Most of the technological changes that have occured in the last three hundred years have been more than 90% because of men ( I would say closer to 99% but someone will throw out some women examples). They include the the printing press, the motorcar, electricity, the computer, alot of modern medecine, the bra, steel, machinery etc. This also includes the formation of democratic governments. If it were not for men's inventions we would all still be sitting in huts , which men of course would have made. So yes the world we have created historically and empirically has been created by men. To say otherwise is just to engage in an immature screaming match which women are better at.

Women have used their power over the last few years to browbeat men in forums, form workplace cartels to discredit men, look sexier and spend money on vain items. Women's interests have, with exceptions, not been to change the world but to become more narcissistic and vain en masse .

So don't count on women solving the global warming crisis that might require breaking a nail.

^^^^^^Need I say more?^^^^^
 Jooly

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Posted: 6/23/2007 11:59:20 AM

can tell you what I personally think - an Indian / White baby is often not a good mix. The end result is often not an attractive baby. It's the same for Asian / Black babies. I'm not saying these babies are any less healthy or worthwhile as children, but physically, they aren't as attractive to me as a White/White mix or a White/Asian mix or a White/Latino mix.


Right, I'll go get a bag to put over my head...
 mizbex

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Posted: 6/23/2007 12:18:50 PM
The following was posted by that's true on 3/25/07 (The Pelvic Post)

Why don,t women talk to men in the low income bracket
Posted: 3/25/2007 111 AM
Women not only don't want to talk to men in the low income bracket they get to decide who is in the low income bracket.

If you look at who does all the hiring in most major companies and mid size companies it is women. HR departments are almost 90% comprised of women. Is it any wonder that looks and height are a determining factor for men in career success? And why is it that tall men tend to earn more than shorther men. Is it because tall men are smarter or is it because he was more dreamy at the interview. Because in academics there was no correlation between height and marks. Or is it because HR people associate tallness with leadership? So women think with their pelvic areas as much or more than men do. And as a result the corporate world is filled with attractive dummies who are destroying our companies through negligence from spending all their time looking good.

^^^^^That's true, care to comment or backpedal?
 thats true

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Posted: 6/23/2007 1:15:34 PM
clearly shows I didn't use the word pelvis but rather pelvic area, if thats all you got out of it to call it the pelvis post then sorry. I still stand by my comments unfortunately its a different thread on a different topic..hellooo. I'm not sure what you object to are you saying that women in human resources departments are not influenced by the attractiveness of a candidate or by their biases based on height.. or are you objecting to the fact that I criticized women. If we are not allowed to legitimately criticize people that is called 'censorship', often associated with non-free countries like dictatorships or communist regimes. As well, the offending party doesn't get to learn from the criticism so they lose too. The word chauvinism merely labels a legit concern and stifles debate sister comrade.
 bellydancer18

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Posted: 6/23/2007 1:28:07 PM
I don't know what gender works more in the HR depts of this country....but it is a sad truth that many are hired based on looks. From stores at the mall, to big corporations....looks matter and age matters. When I graduated from college in 1997 at the age of 32 the people who interviewed me were all around age 25 and looked at me like I was nuts for even trying to break into their field of public relations. One man even told me that since i was pretty but not beautiful, I would have to work extra hard to make it in the professional world. Then he hinted that I should sleep with him (oh and he was a white male).

When I worked at a popular women's store in the mall part time, I was put in the BACK of the store, working merchandising, rather than the floor because I was much older than my coworkers. Our clientele however was my age, and many would ask me my opinion about clothes because they valued my opinion over that of a 18 yr old.

ok now you guys have gotten me off subject too.
 thats true

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Posted: 6/23/2007 1:45:16 PM
The thread was in response to a female who was chauvinistic to men, objecting to the idea that men created much of the world we live in. If you read an encyclopedia of inventions clearly the creators of those inventions were men. Are you so offended by someone saying that or are you denying its veracity? So yes you do need to say more.

As well, I disproved the notion that women necessarily would make the world a more peaceful better place in government and gave as an example how women's magazines discuss only fashion and not geopolitics.

Even still, say my opinions criticize women is these areas (even though it was a different thread and there was men bashing going on there, something you conveniently ignore) , doesn't mean that all Indian men would have said the same thing. Some might disagree because they have the right to. Duh, for you to say I speak for Indian men is to stereotype and be racist.

You on the other hand are using some sort of emotional blackmail ( again illogical) which goes like this: since you said something bad about women, I don't agree with your ideas and you are a chauvinist. Therefore I will disagree with all your ideas. You are also Indian. Therefore all Indians are chauvinist.

Makes sense to you, I guess, but not to a logical person.
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