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 wadelikeaduck

Joined: 4/18/2005
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 SoCal1972

Joined: 2/2/2005
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What would the world be like if there were no religion?
Posted: 4/27/2005 1:23:01 PM
What would the world be like if there were no religion?

This section of PoF would be much less interesting.
 shannanigan

Joined: 12/26/2004
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What would the world be like if there were no religion?
Posted: 4/27/2005 1:27:45 PM
And so would the Current Events area for that matter....
 craww

Joined: 2/16/2005
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What would the world be like if there were no religion?
Posted: 4/27/2005 3:32:06 PM
i love it when atheists claim religion is to blame for the worlds problems..... i need a good laugh every now and then.
atheism is just another religion.

greed is to blame.
 shannanigan

Joined: 12/26/2004
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What would the world be like if there were no religion?
Posted: 4/27/2005 4:03:51 PM
Ah... Atheism is a lack of religion. They worship nothing and
believe in nothing spirtual. It is not a religion in the slightest.

That said, I agree that greed is to blame. But greed comes
in many forms, not always in monetary value. I think forcing
others to follow religious beliefs by getting laws passed
taking away choices of those who don't share you
particular view of "morality" is greedy.

 craww

Joined: 2/16/2005
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What would the world be like if there were no religion?
Posted: 4/27/2005 4:20:37 PM
atheism is not a lack of religion at all....... it's one of the biggest religions in disguise, in the world, fooling a lot of people.

atheists have blind faith that ''nothing'' created this universe.
they 'promote' that blind faith just like other religions promote their beliefs.
they condemn all other religions, saying theirs is the best.
they deny the history of atheism or it's fruits, just like various other religions.

then they blame the worlds problems on religion, claiming it's religious greed.
meanwhile they are busy with their greedy adgenda to promote atheism.
 SoCal1972

Joined: 2/2/2005
Msg: 57
What would the world be like if there were no religion?
Posted: 4/27/2005 4:28:32 PM
I disagree, most athiests think religious discussion is a waste of time and energy.

But then again, I disagree with craww almost on principle anymore. I think his pic makes me think he is crabby and I go into angry crustation mode.
 shannanigan

Joined: 12/26/2004
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What would the world be like if there were no religion?
Posted: 4/27/2005 4:29:02 PM
they condemn all other religions, saying theirs is the best.


Put it that way... I guess you are right because that statement
sounds like Christianity, Hindu, Islam, Judaism, etc. etc. which
also promote their greedy agendas. Ok, you win its a religion.
 craww

Joined: 2/16/2005
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What would the world be like if there were no religion?
Posted: 4/27/2005 6:23:22 PM
social,

sorry about the picture,............ you are right, i'm crabby.
thanks!........ oh well.

those damn things swim backward
 SoCal1972

Joined: 2/2/2005
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Posted: 4/27/2005 7:48:02 PM
Im allergic to crabs. :(

Life isnt fair!
 salamander000

Joined: 10/26/2004
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What would the world be like if there were no religion?
Posted: 4/27/2005 7:55:19 PM
I am just glad there is a place here for y'all to 'congregate' say a prayer for me you'll need it, i mean I will..... haha
 craww

Joined: 2/16/2005
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What would the world be like if there were no religion?
Posted: 4/27/2005 8:58:29 PM
salamander

ok..........i'll need it huh?
 Cleopatracutie

Joined: 4/8/2005
Msg: 63
What would the world be like if there were no religion?
Posted: 5/3/2005 12:48:18 PM
I think its very hilarious that I am thought to be an athiest. It kinda makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside lol....I will say again I think that a human being should follow their own heart and mind. Religion is only a word don't let it scare you now...I am the type of person who lets people keep their veiws so long as they leave me to mine I don't mind one bit listening to someone elses side if they allow me to speak mine.
 kr8ztwin

Joined: 7/29/2004
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What would the world be like if there were no religion?
Posted: 5/4/2005 11:32:47 AM
the only thing I personally believe religeon brought to the table that is inherantly good is morality. the fear of god lead many ppl into lives of moral values and lead people into a more civilized world. However, morality is a strong part of the world today and it will strive with or without religeon.

You can be moral without religeon
You can be religeous without morality
 Cleopatracutie

Joined: 4/8/2005
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What would the world be like if there were no religion?
Posted: 5/12/2005 8:13:39 AM
Thats one thing I never got about religeous people, if god were such a good father then why would you fear him? I think that religion is a means to an end for men of power in the church, a kind of freedom to do what they wish to people with minor flack I mean who ever questions their men of the cloth right its kind of unheard of where I live to do so. I do think that religion is a large mecha for war because look at all the blood spilled through-out history up till now by wars started by what else but the root base of religeous believes. I don't understand how something that to me is as crass as the gladiators ring can play on the minds of people so much. Its like a child believing that the boogie-mans in the closet at night almost terrified to peek. You would think that if people were so loving of god that they would want to meet him but instead they fear him and his "wrath". All the wrath we have ever seen from the sky has to do with the weather or dropping bombs on unsuspecting villagers man not god. One thing I do believe though that many religeous do as well is that the world will end but I think its because of our own stupidities not because of the apocolypse, the earth is our mother and we are killing her with our every breath and it will be our own fault for that. Also if god see's theese things why doesn't he use his unfathomable power to stop it? why would he not enforce peacefulness on us? I know any of our human parents would do their best to stop us from destroying ourselves and intervein when needed but why doesn't god stop his children from harming themselves?
 Nicolebaby

Joined: 4/14/2005
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What would the world be like if there were no religion?
Posted: 5/13/2005 2:13:39 AM
In theological terms God is called "transcendent" (above us) and "immanent" (with us) To say God is transcendant means he is eternal, unchangeable, and without limits. He is independant and self-existant. God is infinitely greater than all his creatures and infinite holiness. He is three and yet one. Gods transcendence is his greatness.

If the Lord went around trying to stop every woman, man and child from getting harmed or harming, preventing wars, rapes, murders, Why would a person need to belive or seek out the lord when God will be there to catch you when you fall every time what would you learn, how could you learn to be responsible or how to learn from mistakes? Would that not make people more dependant on relying on god to bail you out all the time!

When the Bible says fear God Fear means:Be aware of what can follow if you do not and and it is a acknowlegement of the commandments and a respect of the word.
God did not mean fear me as implying run and hide in your closet or grab a wepon and be waiting! LOL. It in short terms means acknowledge and respect the WORD.

Our parents can not stop us from doing things we should not. Even if God did try and intervien every time, people would still do what they wanted and have to learn for themselves. If he parented the whole human race he would probally go mad! or just have too much to do and still then everyone would become dependant on him for everything just as when parents help a kid pay for their insurance, car , rent, It then will become a dependency and the child has a hard time being responsible.

The Lord helps and saves more than you give him credit for cleopartacutie. Somethings people have to do for themselves. I dont know all the answers and my life is full of let downs, sorrow and pain but when i look pass all me selfishness God has given more than i thought, saved my ass more than i deserved and taught me things that will make me a wiser ,happier person.In some weird way the hurt and the pain come to some good and some good lesson. It is all how i decide to open up my heart and take it in!

Alot of the times i am discouraged and think that it is all unfair and or too much, and not only situations with me but with the war, poverty , murders, hate and discrimination, unfair taxes, high gas prices, how hard i have to work and what i got now to show, not having my dad, my mom having a brain tumor, my chiuwawa just died and, people shooting people over nothing, kiddnappings, rapes, police brutalitys, mean people, i could go on and on ................
but i got to look at my mom is here with me and i got a beuatiful little girl and it could always be worse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I got more to say but i am tired and i got to work tomorrow Lot of love to everyone

NICOLE


 Cleopatracutie

Joined: 4/8/2005
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Posted: 5/13/2005 6:01:03 AM
Yes and what does GOD do about it? Nothing. I am not discouraged or looking for the right way to find him infact if I did see him at the moment he would have a hell of alot of explaining to do. I my minds eye he is a killer if he cared he would stop it if he were there now why doesn't he? It doesn't have anything to do with free will or the book love it has to do with common sense and morality not the "good book" or "god". Thats the difference I suppose is that I don't disillusion myself, you look at your family and say it could be worse and I look at it as things will be hard so be strong to get by in life. I don't think its negative one bit because we all go to bed with the thought of death and we all wake with it just the same I just don't think that you know he's watching us and we will be ok because of that fact to me its like saying the tooth-fairy will protect me from the boogie-man.
 Quite_Guy

Joined: 2/2/2008
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What would the world be like if there were no religion?
Posted: 3/31/2008 9:42:54 PM
I think the world would be nil and non existent. God created the world, so without Him there wouldn't be us... Without any of us this site wouldn't be here and I wouldn't have met so many amazing people.
 TheLimey

Joined: 2/24/2008
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What would the world be like if there were no religion?
Posted: 3/31/2008 10:13:31 PM

i could have sworn they tried ''no religion'' in the ussr for quite a while.
it was forbidden or something........ i've heard it wasn't that great of a place to live.

The OP's question wasn't what would happen if they banned religion, the question was what would it be like without it. BIG difference..

Seems to work ok in Star Trek...& Roddenbury was an atheist...
 TheLimey

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What would the world be like if there were no religion?
Posted: 3/31/2008 10:15:47 PM

atheism is not a lack of religion at all....... it's one of the biggest religions in disguise, in the world, fooling a lot of people.

atheists have blind faith that ''nothing'' created this universe.
they 'promote' that blind faith just like other religions promote their beliefs.
they condemn all other religions, saying theirs is the best.
they deny the history of atheism or it's fruits, just like various other religions.

then they blame the worlds problems on religion, claiming it's religious greed.
meanwhile they are busy with their greedy adgenda to promote atheism.

Is this a weak attempt at trolling or are you really that uneducated about atheism?
 oldsoul

Joined: 3/10/2007
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What would the world be like if there were no religion?
Posted: 3/31/2008 10:19:45 PM
"What would the world be like if there were no religion?"

I don't know but look what the world is like with religion.

Just a thought...




 Greg8002

Joined: 3/11/2008
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Posted: 4/1/2008 3:36:58 AM
I suppose with no religion the course of history would be quite different. I think we would still have wars and other problems, but the motivators would be greed, ambition and lust for glory and power rather than religion.
 Fiveofnin

Joined: 1/18/2007
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What would the world be like if there were no religion?
Posted: 4/1/2008 4:06:53 AM
the thing is even at the begaining of humans there was a religion. we wouldn't be worshiping the god we now of today but like a sun god or a techno god . with out wars fuiled buy religion there would be no new technology. with wars it comes down to who can throw a rock harder to who can throw a bolder and it builds up. the religion thing is just a way to take on meaning to the war other then hey i want ur land and ur people will now have to follow me. whahahhahahaahah
 evolving62

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What would the world be like if there were no religion?
Posted: 4/1/2008 6:36:29 AM

atheism is not a lack of religion at all....... it's one of the biggest religions in disguise, in the world, fooling a lot of people.


You need to get your head out of your ass and go back to school my freind.

Atheism is a lack of belief in god/gods.
A religion worships god/gods.
How is it possible to worship something you don't believe exists?
By definition atheism is not a religion.


atheists have blind faith that ''nothing'' created this universe.


Again incorrect. Atheists look at the evidence that suggests about 15 billion years ago, the universe sprang into being in an event called "The Big Bang". The science that takes us back to that point is sound. Atheists are content to wait for the next scientific discovery that will maybe give us a hint as to why.
It is theists who use faith to imagine what created the universe, not atheists.


they 'promote' that blind faith just like other religions promote their beliefs.
they condemn all other religions, saying theirs is the best.
they deny the history of atheism or it's fruits, just like various other religions.
then they blame the worlds problems on religion, claiming it's religious greed.
meanwhile they are busy with their greedy adgenda to promote atheism.


What a load of ignorant piffle. When you've stopped foaming at the mouth, please provide evidence of ONE instance where a country or nation operating on a PURELY ATHEISTIC agenda has done the things you claim. And please do your research thoroughly. Countries like the USSR and China may have had no belief in deity but NO atrocity was ever done under the banner of disbelief. To claim atrocities are commited for the sole reason that the perpetrator does'nt believe in a certain god makes as much sense as saying a murder victim is killed because the killer did'nt believe in santa clause.
 Fleur_de_Lis

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What would the world be like if there were no religion?
Posted: 4/1/2008 7:15:16 AM
Uh... who are you talking to? That post is 3 years old and the poster is gone





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