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Posted: 1/4/2008 7:49:19 PM | ^^^lela Your 24 years old..And you want to give up?? Where there is a will there is a way..Try thinking positive instead of thinking your gonna get fired before you start..
Why would you want to go on Disability???...your capable of working..Get your GED(HSDiploma) you can do that right on line...and go from there..Good god McDonalds here hires w/o a diploma..and I am sure you don't need a Diploma to do Housekeeping..There are jobs you just have to want to work and have the drive to find them.
What I get from your posts are ..You choose to take the easy road and Do nothing..unless there is more to the story.
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Posted: 1/4/2008 7:50:42 PM | | Just for the record some people just NEED welfare. There are mitigating circumstances people. I dont have a problem with dating any of them, legitimate use or otherwise, but Id never have a seriously relationship with one who was on it for the wrong reasons. | |
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Posted: 1/4/2008 8:06:16 PM |
Is it just me or do any of you "guys" seem to notice that alot of the women you contact on here are on welfare ? I'm not one to judge people but this seems like an epidemic lately. I mean would you really want to be with a women that has no motivation? sponging off the sytem ? Even if they are hot and using it?
Ok so you have proven you are an ass and i repsonded without having read the entire thread, but you motivated me to immediately inform you of this as you have undoubteably been told on numerous occassions.
Secondly you prove you are a liar when you say you aren't one to judge and then proceed to immediately "JUDGE" an entire class of people with a blanket statement without knowing what you are even taking about.
TO WIT: My daughter is married to a united states serviceman who is an E-5 and has been in four a lil over four years. Guess what !!! They qualify for WIC. That is a welfare program!!
Guess what else, my son in law risked his life in IRAQ and is headed back in march to do it all over again, so that pompous self rightoues ARSEHOLES like yourself can spew prejudice and bigotry in their state of perpetual stupidity. And so people like me can call you on it!!
Maybe the Lord wil spare from the judgement you have just passed on others, but i assure should life every deal you such a crappy hand that you find yourself "needy" you will bwe greatful that our society has seen fit to be at least somewhat willing to share some of the wealth that they have achieved. | |
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Posted: 1/4/2008 8:43:08 PM | mzfirefly:
Yes theres more to it why I'm giving up. As stated before. But when you keep losing jobs and failing you lose hope fast. And it gets to a point where you don't care no more. Every time I try I fail. So I gave up. Did you notice I said I'm going to school now?? I'm in a high school program but I still feel like I'll never have a chance at getting or keeping a job. Theres too many demands and competition now. I'm stupid not smart. No employer will hire an idiot. | |
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Posted: 1/4/2008 8:45:39 PM |
I'm not one to judge people but this seems like an epidemic lately.
You could have fooled me!
Wouldn't bother me at all because there are many reasons people need help and who knows, maybe I will need it some day.
I would never agree however, to anyone using the system that you and I work to keep floating. | |
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Posted: 1/5/2008 4:45:16 AM | ^^^lela...I took the liberty of reading your profile and some other postings in hopes to better understand you...And Now I do...You suffer from Paranoia along with other severe mental health issue's..You are a Very Negitive person..I am assuming due to your mental health problems....So I guess in your case you are Best on Disability or the system.You refuse to seek HELP for yourself and your problems.
You stated:
"No employer will hire an idiot."..
But while reading another post ..you stated this :
"I'm not an idiot its called an phobia to hospitals and medical stuff."
NOT being judgmental just calling it as I see It!! | |
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Posted: 1/5/2008 6:37:36 AM | Lela:
Please do not call yourself stupid and an idiot! It does sound like you have had many challenges in your life already-but that does not mean that things cannot improve. I am glad you are finishing your high school courses-that is very important.
I hope you have people...family/friends/doctor/counselor..there are even online groups for support for ppl with depression...to talk to and help you. Even the Employment Resource Centres we have here in Ontario have good people and information about careers and training. I think you first need to make sure you are healthy and then you will be better able to search for and keep a job. Maybe the jobs you had in the past weren't right for you. Or you were not feeling well enough then to focus on the job.
I wish you all the best. Please try to seek some help to improve your situation and not lose hope.  | |
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Posted: 1/5/2008 10:46:42 AM | I haven't noticed a lot of women online who claims they're on welfare, Ive only had one email me and she was upfront with it, and she told me she had 5 kids 4 under the age of 10 years old, what I found disturbing is she has internet and sits on the computer for most of the day.
Would I date someone who was on welfare, probably not I have a different lifestyle I like to go on vacations 3 times a year, and do things I could see a potential riff happening over finances.
I had a teammate who dated a woman on welfare and there were challenges, he couldn't stay over night( for whatever reason) he was always picking up the tab even the time they went away on vacation, after a while he felt used. | |
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Posted: 1/5/2008 11:52:17 AM | | well its def inly depression. What kind of depression I wouldn't know. But I won't try to ask any doc or shrink to find out what kind of depression it is. I consider myself stupid in most ways but when it comes to my phobia. My phobia doesn't make me stupid for avoiding hospitals and medical stuff. It makes me more cautious of my surroundings. But other than that part I'm an idiot and no one can tell me different. Its just how I think about myself rather than get my hopes up then shot. I'm sick of trying cause it gets you no where. | |
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Posted: 1/5/2008 4:34:18 PM | Im not only on welfare, but i also live in a trailer park. I am definently a golddigger,and proud of it. I love to hear of a man who works his hands raw, his tax dollars going to support my ass. keep up the good work, you are my hero.  | |
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Posted: 1/5/2008 8:06:19 PM | An old thread revived. Anybody notice how many posters from the first two pages of this thread are gone from POF now?
If fathers would pay for their children there probably would be little need for welfare. Any man who is paying his 17% or whatever for his kids is getting off easy because the mom is probably spending every cent she has to keep them and plus she is the one who has to sit up with them when they are sick and help them with their homeowork. And for those who haven't noticed, here in the U.S. welfare is not a mom sitting on her duff watching tv. You either need to be looking for a job, working, or going to school.
I dated a woman nearly 16 years ago who was on welfare with 2 kids. She had a hard time ever getting any child support from the dad. She did manage to go to college and graduate though and despite having dropped out of high school she is now making more than $50,000 a year.
Personal welfare in this country is a drop in the bucket compared to corporate welfare, but it is oh so much easier to put down women who need to be on welfare because they do not have lawyers, lobbyists, and politicians in their pockets. Most women who are on welfare are only on it for 2 years or less which inconveniently does not match up with the straw-woman caricature that is often presented. | |
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Posted: 1/5/2008 8:35:39 PM | | AMEN TO THAT CARINGSOUL!!!! Thank you. I happen to be one of those ladies who is on partial welfare and for good reason. OP, I worked from the time I was 9 years old...hard labor at that....and about 10 yrs ago some things happened and I couldn't work anymore, at least not at any of the public jobs around here and I couldn't travel. So, I baked and took to the farmers market, to help make ends meet, but my ex made me stop...said it took away from our family time (which was non existant as he was never home). So, I did anything I could, until it got to the point that my son needed to be homeschooled because of his "issues". When my ex left 3 yrs ago, I was still having health issues, I was homeschooling my son, and I had a daughter in grade school. He emptied the accounts, announced at a family gathering that he had done so and was leaving because he could and wanted to, then went on to try and humiliate me further. I had no way to take care of my kids, as I couldn't go to work in the shape I was in, my son was 3/4 of the way through the school year and they wouldn't have accepted him even if he WERE ready to go back. My ex did give me the money to file the divorce, so that it could be on my terms...which was that my daughter live with me, and that he have liberal visitation. Unfortunately, I trusted the wrong lawyers and they took my money, but did it in a way I had no legal recourse. So, now I sit here 3 yrs later, still no divorce, my son is back in public school, I'm looking for work, but have had to have partial help. I'm not ashamed of it, hell, for years I worked and paid in taxes, I figure I'm only getting a return on the investment of my tax money. I don't milk the system, I only signed up for what I had to have, and the case workers kept tryin to get me to sign for more and I wouldnt. Why? I was eligible for it....but people like you and your offbase assumptions are partly why, besides the fact I don't LIKE having to depend on help, but it's the only way I could provide for my kids, and I'd do anything for either of them. As caringsoul said, don't go judging people til you've lived in their shoes a while! | |
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Posted: 1/5/2008 9:14:31 PM | Well, i have gone through all of these posts and i have to say a couple of things. 1st off, if you look through the profiles carefully, there are plenty of ambitious women on this site who are probably financially better off than you. Probably, they make more money than you too, without the help of any man in the background. I was totally offended by the posts of one man who said that. What makes a man think that a woman cannot make a good wage on her own and needs a man to be somewhere in the background? Reality is, that there are plenty of ambitious women. Obviously you have been fishing in the wrong waters..lol..
Now, to all of the people that read this post that might be on welfare for whatever reason. As a taxpayer, I feel that if you need to be on welfare, or you have no other hope, then, take it. And that includes everyone, i dont care of the situation. If you feel that you need it, take it. As a Canadian, I pay heavily into the system anyways, so if it can be of some benefit to a person who feels that they need it, well then take it.
Now, in saying that, you have to realize that welfare is meant as a "hands up", and not a "hand out". Being on welfare gives you many options. Don't have a high school diploma? Well then you can get it. Can't make anything more than minimum wage? well the government has plenty of programs that are open to you to help you get an education and earn a good living wage. Take advantage of those programs, because, believe me, in the end, it will be worth it. You can have your own home, drive a nice car and become a boss to someone like this OP. But the key is believing in yourself.
For all you men that talk about women on the welfare system making "careers" out of it, you have to realize something. They are on that "career" because they are in the box and cannot see the way out. I dont even think that it has to do with lack of ambition; I just think that women in that position honestly do not know how to change it. Maybe i am wrong on that one. But i do know one thing. No one would want to be on welfare if they felt that they had the capability of making a good life for themselves and their family. | |
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Posted: 1/5/2008 9:53:28 PM | | Before you go slamming welfare recipients (and no, I am not one)...do you have ANY clue how many guys on the net are broke and have zero motivation? (I know this from before I met DH) We're talking working at Mickey D's because a real job would take time away from bar hopping and video games. | |
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Posted: 1/6/2008 2:27:20 AM |
I do not need a man to support me nor do I need the government's assistance. But, should the need arise, I'm glad we live in a country that could provide such assistance.
I come from a country where there are government social safety-nets in place and I live at the moment in a country where they are not.
In my country education is free and so is medical care to most.
In the place I'm living at the moment thousands of men women and children beg on the street, there are people everywhere that direct cars into parking spots and offer to carry your bags for 10 cents a time. In the place where I live there is a small percentage of unbelievably rich people that pay almost no tax.
The funny thing is, the place I'm living in at the moment has so many natural resources that could easily fund the social safety-nets taken so much for granted in my home country.
There are many countries in the world that see the western concept of social security for their own people as a joke. | |
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Posted: 1/6/2008 9:03:46 AM | | I think you are quite shallow. Sometimes people need help. Usually it is single mothers that are having a hard time. Thank god there is somewhere to turn when one needs it. That sort of thinking could seriously detriment your success in meeting a woman who may be a totally cool person, Everyone isn't majorly ambitious in life and maybe what they are ambitious about isn't money. And what is wrong with a woman who needs or wants a good provider : a woman who needs help with her children. Do you think that "welfare" doesn't happen to quality people? It does my friend, welcome to the real world. | |
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Posted: 1/6/2008 9:28:28 AM | | Ross PK, you are a totally cool guy and what an excellent attitude you have! | |
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Posted: 1/6/2008 9:42:50 AM | | It's ok to ask for a Hand-Up, but not a Hand-Out. My 2 cents! | |
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Posted: 1/6/2008 10:31:30 AM | Im not so sure of the American Welfare System... So I cant make a call on that specifically... But I know that not everyone on Welfare (or Centrelink - Aust.) is on there full time... Not that I have ever been on the dole... But Still... Call me ignorant... But although I do know that there are a lot of people out there wroughting the system... Many are just looking for a little financial support through a hard time... Which gets me onto my main point...
When someone is going through a hard time, often they look towards unconventional means of support, in this case, the POF website... Be it either for friends or a relationship... Maybe this has something to do with it???
Just an idea :D | |
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