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Posted: 4/20/2005 9:29:24 AM | | The real problem with Wal-Mart is simply size. They are so large that not only are they able to pay their employees low wages and almost zero benefits, but they are able to by proxy set the wages for all of their suppliers. Suppliers that cannot meet the low prices are forced to either cut wages or give up the business, forcing these jobs overseas. Of course the issue of exporting jobs to China and other areas with very low labor costs is problematic for nearly all retailers and manufacturers. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 9:33:39 AM | | let's see saving .30 cents per item times one hundred items purchased in a given week. That comes to about $30 saved per week times 52 weeks equals $1560 saved per year. To many that may not seem like much but when you are scraping to be able to save $10 a week it starts to add up. Now let's add in cost of gas to go to several other stores, when all of those things could be bought at one store, then the savings starts to climb even higher. If I was able to hold onto all the money that I saved from shopping at wal-mart, I would be able to buy a car with that money. Again, to those of you driving around with dealership cars that may not seem like enough, but to those of us who can't afford payments, a $1500 car is a good deal. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 9:34:27 AM | It's super funny how the Waltons (founder of Walmart) were the staunchest opponents vs outsourcing NA jobs UNTIL they saw through the trailblazing of others; that it could save pennnies.
Walmart changed their tune on THAT isssue pretty quickly hu?
They care about one thing and one thing only; selling stuff at the cheapest prices REGARDLESS of any other costs or issues.
As my ole uncle Angus would say:
D'as crrrap. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 9:37:15 AM |
actually I live somewhere where wal-mart was fixing to build a new store, the people come together and protested them putting the new store where it was going to go,
(across from a school house and right in the middle of 2 historic districts)
the people won their fight and Wal-Mart will not be going there
Same situation here in a smaller town nearby. Walmart lost their bid WHICH they did not give up for SOME time!! HECK, they wanted to bull their way in EVEN THOUGH most citizens of the area said they did not welcome them!!
ggrr | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 9:41:04 AM | Slurpee; I think that you are in one of those "how dare you" situations for telling a woman, heck telling anyone how to best morally spend the dollar to feed their children and such.
*shrugs*
How dare you.
*fill her shoes buddy..then come and tell us all about it k?*
I do agree that you get what you pay for in most cases. EIther the service is lower, the product is junk..optinos are limited..or warranties stink.etc etc etc etc
BUT
I also agree that you sometimes have to do what you have to do. As Ecentric above has said; different chunks of money to different people are relatively FAR diferent in importance.
25000 to a multi milionaiire or 1000 to a welfare recipient looking to spring into the world.
I cannot judge here..ever..anyone.
Accept the Walmart structure, of course. (and the cities who choose to allow it in) | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 9:44:15 AM | Well if you put it that way eccentric, I see why penny pinching people would pick walmart.
You could also look at it this way. You are NOT saving 30 cents on every item you buy, maybe just a few items. Some things you are paying the same price as anywhere else and last but not least, who the hell buys 100 items a week from walmart??
I look at things from this persective. If I didn't have to spend $400 a month to get to and from work, I wouldn't have to even consider going into walmart for anything because I would have more money to buy things that I actually LIKE, not things that are cheaply manufactured so some rich **stards can keep lining their pockets with my hard earned money.
Yeah, every time I go to walmart I realize what a mistake it was to even bother. It's like a herd of cattle in there. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 9:48:39 AM |
who the hell buys 100 items a week from walmart??
include groceries and everything and that woudl be easy to do. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 9:54:37 AM | If you count groceries and landscaping supplies I EASILY buy 100 items a week from Wal-Mart.
To be fair though I drove down to the local Target this morning and looked around their home and garden section. The vast majority of products were "made in china".
Wow! You read this thread and you would think that Wal-Mart vendors are the only companies that import!
Their prices were very good. Within pennies of the same (or similar products) at the Wal-Mart, however they did not have groceries or gasoline so they're unlikely to get my continued business.
On the way home I stopped into our little square in downtown and enjoyed a nice lunch with a friend on the outdoor patio of a quaint diner. I shopped at a bookstore and bought some antiques. Seems like at least THIS town has learned how to coexist with Wal-Mart.
Offer products and services that it can't provide and both can coexist. They built a better mousetrap. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 10:05:19 AM | *yawn*
This is just another "protest of the week". The people who hate Wal-mart saw some liberal on TV bashing it, so they feel the need to now. I don't shop at Wal-mart, I don't think their prices are any different than Meijers. Yet, I don't hear anyone complaining about Meijer's, tho. Maybe if we can get Al Franken to bash it, it will be suddenly be a different story. As for getting products from China, how about any of you name a single store that you DO shop at, that doesn't have chinese made products in it. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 10:13:25 AM | | Grocery shopping at walmart eh? Sure, if you eat wonder bread and peanut butter sandwiches and kraft dinner. They don't have the things a grocery store has because they are not a grocery store. Same as gardening and landscaping. Go to home depot. There's one on every bloody corner anyways. It's not like I have to drive 100km to get to a grocery store or anywhere else i gotta go. I live in the city dudes. And I would rather support smaller business than large pigs like walmart, also would rather support Canadian small business because I know how freaking hard it is to compete with hogs like walmart and winners. I am glad there are people out there that are not too lazy to look for what they want instead of just buying cheapo crapola. It is really hard to become an entrepreneur when so many people have the attitude that cheaper is better because it is not, its just cheaper. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 10:18:04 AM | Yet, I don't hear anyone complaining about Meijer's
Meijer's doesn't work the same way Wal-Mart does to get its
prices low... there is no comparison between the two.
And its not about the Chinese products... I love the Chinese.
Its about Walmart's business ethics. Guess you missed that part
of the discussion Bulldog. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 10:21:20 AM | | Wal-mart is a merchant, just like K-mart, or any other store. They sell all different things, made by lots of different manufacturers. There's a difference in buying a VCR made by some cheap Korean manufacturer, and one by an upscale manufacturer. Both can be purchased at Wal-mart, it depends on how you want to spend your money. I take all the "I support the little guys" speech with a grain of salt. Why? Because who is going to spend $10 on gas to go to 10 different stores, just to get gouged on prices? I don't buy it. I think the people who cry the loudest against Wal-mart probably shop there the most often. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 10:23:19 AM |
I think the people who cry the loudest against Wal-mart probably shop there the most often.
I don't shop there ever so... proved you wrong.
Next... | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 10:24:47 AM | What tiny little corner of civilization did you crawl out from that you don't have a Wal-Mart Supercenter or Wal-Mart Neighborhood Market?
Every Supercenter has a full grocerystore inside.
I dont think that cheaper is better -- but i'm a discriminating shopper. If I can buy item "X" for a few cents less at Wal-Mart while i'm already there buying groceries and gasoline... guess what? I'm going to do so.
Maybe i'm lazy but I like one-stop-shopping. Saves gas too. My truck gets around 19 miles per gallon. If I can get everything at Wal-Mart without having to drive all over town then maybe I can save some gas $$$ too.
Isn't it funny how people who DON'T shop at Wal-Mart feel the need to criticize those who do? What difference does it make to you? If you don't like Wal-Mart don't shop there. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 10:26:02 AM | Ok...I don't usually do this.. but you MORON....
The ONLY way Wally-Mart got so big was gets almost everything from COMMUNIST CHINA! There goes your CAPATALIST , FREE MARKET FORCES argument. I can see where this is going. The ultimate capatlist system : slavery.
I am sure you can prove that Wal-Mart gets "almost everything" from China? I know that they don't get "almost everything" from China.
On another note I bet that I could find dozens of products in your very own home made from China.
Pot...meet kettle...
Now let's see how China became so big...
In the late 1990s, Washington was a sharply divided political city, but there was a growing consensus on one big issue. Most Republicans and Democrats agreed that trade with China would be a boon for America.
President Clinton summed up the mainstream consensus in Washington with a message to Congress in the spring of 2000. In a letter circulated to House members, he wrote, "China with more than a billion people is home to the largest potential market in the world… If Congress makes the right decision, our companies will be able to sell and distribute products in China made by American workers on American soil, without being forced to relocate manufacturing to China. …We will be able to export products without exporting jobs."
Clinton was pushing Congress to permanently normalize trade relations with Beijing, helping to ease China's entry into the World Trade Organization (WTO). Big business was furiously lobbying Capitol Hill in favor of the legislation. It saw China, with its 1.2 billion consumers, as a vast new emerging market and many parts of Corporate America wanted a piece of the action.
Seems Bill Clinton saw the trade-off with China as much more positive for America than you do. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 10:28:08 AM | Everything you say is true. One thing you are missing though. When you live in a city that has all kinds of things on every corner, your not really driving too far to spend your money. You could probably park your car and leave it in one spot to shop where you want to shop.
I support the little guys is not a speech dude, it's a way of life that I choose because I am one of those little guys trying to make it in a world of big guys.
I think people who cry the loudest against people that complain about people that don't shop at walmart are just complaining for the sake of complaining. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 10:30:05 AM | Meijer's doesn't work the same way Wal-Mart does to get its
prices low... there is no comparison between the two.
Lol. I guess it MUST be true because you said so! Wow. That's real good debate there.
I love the Chinese.
Then why don't you marry them? :P
don't shop there ever so... proved you wrong.
Yes, because we all know it's impossible to lie over the internet. Btw, look up the definition of "prove" (you still seem to have no idea what it means.)
I think people who cry the loudest against people that complain about people that don't shop at walmart are just complaining for the sake of complaining.
I think people who complain about those who complain that the people who complain the loudest about Wal-mart are just complaining for the sake of complaining. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 10:33:42 AM | Oh please, if I'm going to lie its going to be about much
more deviant things than lying about shopping at Wal-Mart.
I think people who complain about those who complain that the people who complain the loudest about Wal-mart are just complaining for the sake of complaining.
I love to b!tch... can't argue there. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 10:34:28 AM | | ok. fine. she has the last word. Lets let the thread die. jeez. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 10:35:10 AM | chatpilot. I did not crawl out from any tiny little corner you moron. I live in Toronto. It is a really big city. The day that I care what the difference between a walmart supecentre and a walmart neighbourhood market is the day that I will become a penny pinching corner crawling cheapo like you.
It's funny how people take something posted in a forum so personally that they would choose to insult you because you don't like to shop where they shop.
That's what is funny.
I don't shop at walmart.
I don't care who does.
If you have no money and you think you are going to save thousands of dollars a year by shopping at walmart, then go shop at walmart. Good for you. Then maybe you can write a book about how to get rich from shopping at walmart.
They might even sell your book at walmart. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 10:36:59 AM |
They might even sell your book at walmart.
Unless it has naked photos of Judges in it... LOL! | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 10:37:49 AM |
it's funny how people take something posted in a forum so personally that they would choose to insult you
chatpilot. I did not crawl out from any tiny little corner you moron.
I agree. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 10:44:09 AM | ^^^ Here here! 
(You know I'm talking about the Jon Stewart book right? Just checking...) | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 10:45:08 AM | | The Wal-Mart her in Wichita stocks products made right here in Kansas not more then 20miles away. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 10:46:52 AM | Look I know you are a Conservative... but you don't live in a bubble.
I haven't seen any around town. LOL!
Who is Jon Stewart.... sheesh.... | |
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