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 sweetie_delicious

Joined: 4/19/2005
Msg: 51
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Posted: 4/20/2005 10:55:38 AM
I don't know who the hell jon stewart is either.

I don't watch the news really.

Are you going to tell us who jon stewart is or what?
 eccentric

Joined: 1/1/2005
Msg: 52
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Posted: 4/20/2005 10:57:01 AM
he has a comedy news show on comedy central
 shannanigan

Joined: 12/26/2004
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Posted: 4/20/2005 10:58:35 AM
I know. It's pathetic, isn't it? But I'm selective about what I pay attention to.



No kidding... I wish I could do that. Not knowing certain types of
people exist would make my life a lot more pleasant.

If you really want to know.... http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0446532681/102-7161671-1254508

Its a very funny book, provided you don't limit your sense of humor to staunch party-lines. ;)



Sweetie.... don't be so grouchy. Patience is a virtue everyone should have. :P
 BulldogMedic

Joined: 12/31/2004
Msg: 54
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Posted: 4/20/2005 11:05:25 AM
John Stewart co-starred with Adam Sandler in "Big Daddy". He's also a source of political "satire" on an American TV show. He could be considered the "brightest star" of the liberals. Isn't that sad?
 SLurpee

Joined: 9/15/2004
Msg: 55
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Posted: 4/20/2005 11:05:28 AM

Trying finding inexpensive items that are NOT made in a foreign country. If it's not China, it's Taiwan. If not Taiwan, India. Or Pakistan. Or Mexico, etc. It's certainly not unique to Wal-Mart. On the other hand, Wal-Mart is clearly inferior as a store, in my opinion, to Meijer because they sell shoddy merchandise. The price is irrelevant if you're forever driving back to the store to return defective products.


True. We should not be doing business with those countries that are dictatorships or have horrendous human rights records( Isn't it funny how I'm now arguing a libertarian stance vs. the neocons ? :P ). I'm not agianst trade per se, and if there is a good chance of democratization through trade, even with hardline states. I see it as a way to lift the rest of world up a bit. That kind of 'honest' trade is not an issue for me.

Where I do have issues are dishonest trades. China in particular has aggregious human rights abuses, and they also manipulate thier markets in order to facilitate a false economy. The Yaun dosn't float and they've resisted all attempts to get it to. If it did, does anyone think it would be cheaper to do business in China still? No! The yaun would be through the roof. Yet we allow this fallacy to continue, even though it though it is against free-market principals, and will hurt the majority here in the end.
 shannanigan

Joined: 12/26/2004
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Posted: 4/20/2005 11:07:11 AM
He could be considered the "brightest star" of the liberals. Isn't that sad?



Ah.... no. He is freakin' funny guy.

Who do you guys have? That annoying "Git 'er Done" Guy.
Please... that sh!t is lame.
 BulldogMedic

Joined: 12/31/2004
Msg: 57
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Posted: 4/20/2005 11:12:44 AM
Agreed.^^^ He's not "mine".

Daily Show used to be a lot funnier, it's gone down hill, imo.
 shannanigan

Joined: 12/26/2004
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Posted: 4/20/2005 11:16:19 AM

China in particular has aggregious human rights abuses, and they also manipulate thier markets in order to facilitate a false economy.



The company I work for does extensive research into the factories that
make our product and how they treat their employees. In fact, while I
was there last week we checked on a new factory to make sure it was
ok. Mind you, no Chinese factory would be legal here in the States...
but we don't bottom feed to get cheap prices.

Though I personally wish we could make stuff in America, I know Americans won't
pay the prices needed to support each other. Thats a fact. We want to pay a little,
but get paid a lot. I'm not going to depend on them to keep my job designing products
made with high wage American workers. Nobody will buy it... its hard enough to sell
quality products now with Chinese labor thanks to places like Wal-Mart.

As for manipulating the Yuan... you are so right on about that. I think its wrong.
But China knows if they don't, American companies will go to even cheaper places
and they will lose their business... Yay Capitalism.
 eccentric

Joined: 1/1/2005
Msg: 59
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Posted: 4/20/2005 11:17:57 AM
The Wal-Mart her in Wichita stocks products made right here in Kansas not more then 20miles away
 shannanigan

Joined: 12/26/2004
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Posted: 4/20/2005 11:19:10 AM
^^^ I know... you said that earlier.

What is the ratio? What kind of products? Food doesn't count....
 BulldogMedic

Joined: 12/31/2004
Msg: 61
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Posted: 4/20/2005 11:20:16 AM
Lol, in fact, any products made in Kansas don't count. Just because.
 sweetie_delicious

Joined: 4/19/2005
Msg: 62
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Posted: 4/20/2005 11:20:50 AM
hey you took me asking you who jon stewart is as being grouchy. No, not grouchy. It's just my personality.

Like as in, hey, are you gonna tell me who that guy is or, whhhhhatttt (as in , are you going to make it easy and tell me or do i have to look it up on google)

Not grouchy, I am very laid back and do NOT take it all too seriously.

....okay well thanks for letting me know who he is. For some reason I don't really find knowing who he is now of any interest to me. I don't watch much TV and honestly am bad with remembering movies, I can watch the same movie for the first time over and over again.

As far as things coming from China, most things that are manufactured and sold in North America are made in China. A lot of manufacturing facilities are owned and operated by the American corporations. The products are designed in the US and are brought to their manufacturing facilities that they own in China, then they are shipped back to the states. It is still cheaper to do this than to manufacture here in North America.

Along with China, the other countries that most stores get their stuff from are: Indonesia, India, Taiwan, Thailand and those are the major ones. Forgive me if I forgot some.
 eccentric

Joined: 1/1/2005
Msg: 63
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Posted: 4/20/2005 11:21:08 AM
At least 30% in home and garden from one factory alone
 shannanigan

Joined: 12/26/2004
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Posted: 4/20/2005 11:24:57 AM
Sweetie... I know. I was teasing you. Hence the " :P "...


The products are designed in the US and are brought to their manufacturing facilities that they own in China, then they are shipped back to the states. It is still cheaper to do this than to manufacture here in North America.



This I know. Thats my job... the Designer.
 sweetie_delicious

Joined: 4/19/2005
Msg: 65
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Posted: 4/20/2005 11:27:39 AM
Oh I get it now. Okay. :)
 shannanigan

Joined: 12/26/2004
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Posted: 4/20/2005 11:27:54 AM

At least 30% in home and garden from one factory alone



What... plants? ;)

But 30% of one department out of how many? Are you
trying to spin the numbers Eccentric? Thats the Conservatives job...
 eccentric

Joined: 1/1/2005
Msg: 67
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Posted: 4/20/2005 11:30:22 AM
Simply defining the fact that wal-mart invest locally as well as abroad. The name of the company is Hays, I'm sure they have a website if you would like to look. In fact, I used to drive a fork lift at that factory, that is why I recognized the label. And that company is a family owned company started right here in Wichita.
 shannanigan

Joined: 12/26/2004
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Posted: 4/20/2005 11:34:34 AM
I tried to look them up.... can't find any company called "Hays", just a town.
 eccentric

Joined: 1/1/2005
Msg: 69
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Posted: 4/20/2005 11:42:10 AM
try Hayes sorry, my bad

I couldn't find thier website but I got the address from yahoo

in valley center, ks
 eccentric

Joined: 1/1/2005
Msg: 70
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Posted: 4/20/2005 11:44:08 AM
Hayes Co Incorporated
(316) 337-7600

Address:

7700 Hayes Dr
Valley Center, KS 67147

Category Types:
Wood Products Manufacturers, Woodworking Machinery, Lawn and Garden Machinery, Pallet Manufacturers
 ErikSFBay

Joined: 8/2/2004
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Posted: 4/20/2005 11:50:03 AM
I refuse to shop at wal-mart. They used to claim that all their stuff was made in the USA. They are the biggest importer in the US. Most their stuff comes from China.

They recently settled a child labor law infraction and have paid out millions in fines regarding diability discrimination and illegal aliens. They also have a sex discrimination case pending.

One executive who recently resigned is alleged to be involved with union busting. Despite being the largest employer in the country, only a fraction of their employees have company sponsored health insurance. Half the employees qualify for welfare and medicaid. At the same time, some states give Wal Mart millions in tax rebates to open stores in their states.
Not to mention that every time they put in one of their megaplexes, the local community has to pay for the roads and the stoplights that go in to deal with all the new traffic. Wal Mart doesn't pay for that.

I'm willing to pay more for my goods instead of saving a couple of bucks so that wal-mart can come in and trash the local community. Now the Wal-Mart stores are offering groceries. I don't know about where you live, but the major grocery store chains in my area are all union jobs. These are people who raising families with those good paying jobs. A cashier at wal mart makes squat and probably has no insurance.

We have Costco in our area. I'd rather support them. They have unionized labor, their lowest paid employee makes more than 50% of wal mart employees, and they have some damn low prices. Even if they didn't have the low prices, I'm willing to pay more for the sake of my community.

Fortunately, new Wal Mart construction often gets rejected around here. So, I'm not sure where there is a wal mart in my area.
 Frrosty

Joined: 3/21/2004
Msg: 72
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Posted: 4/20/2005 11:53:40 AM
^ agreed.

Keep em part time so the insurances and government mandatories are all low or nil.

gross
 SLurpee

Joined: 9/15/2004
Msg: 73
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Posted: 4/20/2005 12:30:32 PM
The worst part of the Trade with China is that the guys that everyone is doing business with are like the Enron guys but 10 times worse. And over there, the government will protect them and enforce thier interests with force.
 ErikSFBay

Joined: 8/2/2004
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Posted: 4/20/2005 12:47:16 PM
Actually, Wal Mart has a rep in China named Wang Jun who runs a state sponsored investment company who has the governments ear and insures that their needs aren't impeded.

This insures a steady supply of substandard wage and underage labor. (like many american corporations.) Is that a freemarket miracle or artificial suppression of wages?

I also know that they ask their vendors to defend their policies and give them advice on how to defend Wal Marts reputation in public discussion.
 DRAKARR

Joined: 3/26/2005
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Posted: 4/20/2005 1:22:58 PM
Well Im here to tell you that Wal Mart is just proof that one man can start with nothing and build it into a worldwide billion dollar company ! And it seems that when someone does something like that, we have jealous people like yourself putting the store down. Now if you owned Wal Mart would you feel the same as you do now ? I worked at Wal Mart in management for about 2 years and im here to tell you that if you do some reading on the company, you would be amazed at what Sam Walton started with and was able to build into an empire. I think that is what america is based on. Free enterprise. I have known and met some employees who had Wal Mart stocks which have went up and split a few times and these employees, some of which have over 1 million dollars worht of stock to retire on. Not bad for a hourly Wal Mart employee. So think about these things.
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