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| Are intelligent guys a turn off?
Posted: 3/23/2007 12:14:57 AM |
So - as I said I disagree with you speaking for the whole dating and mating world about intelligence not being a major commodity. How that disproves YOUR point because its simply not true and its impossible - as this is your opinion only - its not a fact. It's a blanket statement.
You slept with the rich boyfriend right? I mean that's pretty much implied when someone says "long term"
The rich guy got laid right?
Those are your own words, not mine.
You are saying what I am saying does not always apply, yet it applies to and for you in your own words. The rich guy got laid. Obviously you are not "everyone" but common sense would dictate that if you gave an example that showed a different scenario to my opinion, that you would choose one that actually showed a different scenario period.
You say, you don't "think that way", but if the rich guy got laid, how do you think then?
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| Are intelligent guys a turn off?
Posted: 3/23/2007 12:32:02 AM | You slept with the rich boyfriend right? I mean that's pretty much implied when someone says "long term"
The rich guy got laid right?
Those are your own words, not mine.
You are saying what I am saying does not always apply, yet it applies to and for you in your own words. The rich guy got laid. Obviously you are not "everyone" but common sense would dictate that if you gave an example that showed a different scenario to my opinion, that you would choose one that actually showed a different scenario period.
You say, you don't "think that way", but if the rich guy got laid, how do you think then?
Your words, not mine.
OMG this is hilarious....You are confusing me with other posters and another one of your points because I havent commented on that 'point' of yours, see previous post of mine.
You are saying what I am saying does not always apply
Go back and read to what exactly what I was referring to when I said that. I was quite specific | |
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| Are intelligent guys a turn off?
Posted: 3/23/2007 3:54:00 AM | | Definitely not! I'm attracted to guys that know something I don't. I have a library and take loads of classes just for my own mental stimulation. | |
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| Are intelligent guys a turn off?
Posted: 3/23/2007 4:59:58 AM | the op never said anything about wanting to get laid.
he merely expressed a desire to find a pleasant woman who would appreciate what he has to offer.
some of us who responded to his inquiry pointed out to him that plenty of women enjoy spending time with a man who approaches them from a cerebral place as opposed to a physical one.
at this point, the argument decayed into the trite old debate of the 'sex-for-money' model.
op, you will find what you seek. after reading your posts, you seem like a charming individual. i feel certain that some cute, bright, good-natured woman manifest in your life. it may take some time, but you will find her worth the wait.
all the best to you. | |
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| Are intelligent guys a turn off?
Posted: 3/23/2007 5:54:03 AM |
And yet you can't deny that a woman's sex appeal has an impact on you. That they attract you.
A woman's sex appeal is more than just the way she looks. I think you've missed the point. I love the way a woman looks...yes, but exactly when did you crawl into my head and discover what I think is attractive and what isn't. All you've done is proven that I like to have sex with women who are sexually appealing to me...not exactly touching my soul with that profound declaration.
A woman shows me what she has to offer by what she does for herself. These are the things that are important to me. Does she have a drive for life? What is she passionate about? Does she live her life to the fullest? Is she a go-getter? When life knocks her down, will she get back up and try again? Is she compassionate? Is she understanding? Can she forgive herself after she's forgiven others?
And while you are attracted to them how many not so good looking women, maybe even some very "intellectual" ones were you not attracted to?
Well here's nice little corner you've tried to paint me into. I can either say I've dated ugly smart women or I've dated beautiful smart women.
Without a doubt, I know that the women I have been with we're of the best that womankind has to offer, or perhaps these women just gave me their best. They are beautiful amazing women who I was fortunate enough to share parts of my life with. Each one contributed a little to make me a better person and each one gave me their love, support and encouragement. Most of all, these women made me feel worthy of their love and in turn I can gladly say that whatever I gave was given with joy. My only desire is that what I have given was of equal value.
And your statement disproves my point how?
Disprove?...I didn't say anything to prove or disprove your point. You said women such as yourself have a price. I agree...if a woman says she's has a $price$, then who am I to argue.
I asked "how much$$?"
or
“What are you worth?"
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| Are intelligent guys a turn off?
Posted: 3/23/2007 6:11:26 AM | you make some excellent points here:
Each one contributed a little to make me a better person and each one gave me their love, support and encouragement.
we need to remember that everyone who enters our lives does so in the capacity of 'teacher.' once we learn whatever lesson they offer, we move on. some lessons last longer than others. we call these 'long term relationships.'
as we evolve along, past the basic requirements for food, clothing, shelter and procreation, we pursue the most elusive of desires: intellectual stimulation, creative undertakings, goals of spirituality and self-actualization.
now, granted, some of us have evolved further than others. simply because we feel the need for the requirements lower on the scale doesn't necessarily mean everyone else does as well. conversely, my need for a more cerebral connection doesn't automatically indicate that everyone i meet has that same need.
individuals evolve at different rates. therefore, i feel certain op will meet a woman at the same evolutionary point as himself. | |
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| Are intelligent guys a turn off?
Posted: 3/23/2007 6:29:33 AM | interesting how TDQ didn't bother to address the one response that said yes, i'd date a man who couldn't support us. heaven forbid someone actually prove her materialistic little mind wrong.
she's pretty and all.. but the more i read about her ideas.. the less attractive i think she is. i wonder how many guys agree with me on that. | |
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| Are intelligent guys a turn off?
Posted: 3/23/2007 6:32:33 AM | | OP, I'd still like to know how you drew the conclusion that women didn't like you because of your intelligence? | |
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Posted: 3/23/2007 7:00:05 AM | | Intelligent is sexy.... but being conceited or talking about being intelligent and showing her down is not sexy. Girls may be scared you'll belittle them if your always talking about how smart you are. You can be smart but never think your smarter than others you never know who your talking to. | |
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Posted: 3/23/2007 11:28:35 AM | | OP -- I haven't read most of the arguing going on here, but took a gander at your posts. Intelligence or knowledge is a wonderful attribute to a woman who enjoys challenges adn changes. However, since you also actually use your knowledge (which alot of people haven't obtained) you may seem different. As you can see from the forum, DIFFERENT can cause a whole lot of turmoil for an individual.. So, my point is, when you come across a woman who believes in mass transit eventhough she can afford a mercedes, or something similar - you may well find your match. For it doesn't seem to be the intelligence quotient, but the fact that you actually put the thoughts to motion. She may not be so secure to go against the societal norms (most people arent). Good luck to you...You are definitely looking for a very rare jewel.. | |
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Posted: 3/23/2007 11:47:20 AM | i prefer intelligent guys...so i can be sure that i never be bored with this man....ok sometimes they can be demanding cause sometimes they see the world in a diffrent way..but hey whos perfect  | |
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| Are intelligent guys a turn off?
Posted: 3/23/2007 12:08:26 PM | Intelligence is always a credit. Above average, another extra point.
Maybe it will help you to focus more on a level of compatibility and common interests rather than the specific concept.
There is easier to find a theme for confraternitation between two game's lover, even if one is beisbol and another futbol than an exchange between an astrophysic with a marine biologist. You'll have a better chance for a conversation if as literate you spoke with an artist rather than speaking about logarithms and vectorial calculus to a high school dropout.
Intelligence, within group's classification, is a portion, not the whole product. A mathematician genius can be a music ignorant, unable to dance.
Intelligence, aside group's classification, is just a reflexion of a specific area for expertise. A waitress can give more emotionally stable romance than that NASA biach with a whole life of psychological evaluation and training to live under stress. | |
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| Are intelligent guys a turn off?
Posted: 3/23/2007 3:02:23 PM | [And yet in your profile, you mention tha you have "three beautiful daughters" You did not describe them as very bright or very "intelligent", and I'm sure they are, but your first description of them to show their worth was on their physical appearance. Their "beauty" Wouldn't some people consider that description "superficial" based on all the other wonderful attributes and characteristics that your daughters have to offer? ]
And given what you wrote and what your profile says, your statement disproves my point how
DQ: My last post was about superficiality and intelligence which seems to lack wisdom... it had NOTHING to do with my daughters.. but since you brought them up...
To ME (the only person I can speak for)... beauty encompasses more than simply physical appearance... it is something that shines from within and comes from knowing and accepting yourself (intelligence and all). That is something I strive to teach my daughters.. that they are beautiful inside and out and that they are responsible for their own existence. I want them to know that they do not need to buy into certain prevailing attitudes... their worth is not determined by whether or not they land a rich man.
Therefore, in my opinion... it is YOUR defintion of beauty that is lacking.
I wasn't trying to disprove your point... merely making one of my own  | |
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| Are intelligent guys a turn off?
Posted: 3/23/2007 3:03:46 PM | [italic]I guess this is “ask a girl,” but then who cares… [/italic]
solving problems and a lot of learning - two things which I actually enjoy outside of work
These are commendable interests, but they are not usually going to get you laid by talking about them on a date.
I certainly would not say something like, guys like you are the last option because that’s ridiculous in its own simplicity. Every person likes and is attracted to different things. You just need to find a woman who is attracted to the things that are focal point in you. That’s all. Just because you make money or don’t doesn’t really matter to every woman. It matters more to some than others. Just because you’re smart, sexy, rich and powerful doesn’t get you laid all the time either. Some woman will find the latter guy a misogynistic prick while others may think he’s all that. I’ve said before, people are different. Different strokes for different folks; some like smarts, some like animal attraction, some like money.
One thing of note is that in general people who have intelligence also are funny people. They can relate humor to many levels of thinking and make you laugh. In my experience, one thing that is sure to make a person more attractive is a wonderful sense of humor.
Nobody likes a know-it-all and no one likes to be talked down to, but intelligent conversation, of any type, political, sports, sex, whatever, is more exciting and intriguing than conversing with an intellectual troglodyte. Not to mention the simplest fact of all, each person has different erotic stimuli. A person with an IQ of 90-100 (considered the meat of the bell curve) is just not going to have the same capacity to find and trigger that stimulus as a much more intelligent person. | |
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Posted: 3/23/2007 4:26:10 PM | i'm so inteligent that i cannot express myself in words. They are to poor ....
But i will show it and i keep doing that everyday.
An inteligent + smart + funny+ good looking guy = The perfect man = ME | |
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Posted: 3/23/2007 5:12:59 PM | it's.... intelligent.....   | |
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Posted: 3/23/2007 5:28:49 PM | You can lead an intellectual to a forum but you cant make him spell intelligent !
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| Are intelligent guys a turn off?
Posted: 3/23/2007 5:57:09 PM |
beauty encompasses more than simply physical appearance...
Exactly, sassyaquarius. Beauty and attractiveness is unique, and can that include intelligence for some people?, absolutely. The way someones mind works to me, can be the biggest turn on, or the biggest turn off. | |
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Posted: 3/23/2007 6:00:27 PM | 
People can say all the things they want about the topic of "intellect" but when you dig deep down, when you look past what people say so they don't have to look bad in public and watch how they behave and what they value - it's just beauty and money in the end. | |
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Posted: 3/23/2007 6:28:09 PM |
it's just beauty and money in the end.
Well if you really look closely at what people are saying - beauty is made up of a lot of things and that can include intellect. | |
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| Are intelligent guys a turn off?
Posted: 3/23/2007 6:37:00 PM | Well if you're intelligent you should be able to hold an interesting conversation, so that's good. I don't get put off by intelligence, money, etc. It's about the attitude of the person themselves. I have known people who were probably more intelligent than me which is fine, but they seemed to feel they were superior to me and made a real effort to show their 'intelligence' - with one guy I found myself using a dictionary after our conversations! So I wouldn't be put off at all by someone who was intelligent, only if their attitude about it was unattractive.  | |
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Posted: 3/23/2007 6:37:38 PM | NOW I understand why that anesthesiologist was so baffled by my not wanting to go on a second date with him.
DQ - you're right about one thing - having money gives you options. And, one of those options is to date a guy with money, or to date a guy without it. If you have your own, it really makes the financial worth of a suitor a non-factor. | |
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Posted: 3/23/2007 6:40:37 PM |
beauty is made up of a lot of things and that can include intellect.
since the ancient egyptians inented beauty, western society has endeavored to contain it, to redefine it, to project it and to isolate it. yet, once the first linear artists unleashed the beast, humanity realized its capacity to imagine and to expand. we discovered beauty in words, in sounds, in thoughts and in exchange. beauty extends so far beyond the physical. it encompasses balance, above all, i think. we can become overwhelmed by hearing one single chord ~ if we have trained the sensitivity into our psyches.
like i said earlier, some of us have evolved a bit more. but, in time, the others will catch up...perhaps as we enter the aquarian age we will see this a bit more. | |
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