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 Minstrel-71

Joined: 9/16/2007
Msg: 51
How Do You Define Intelligence?
Posted: 9/28/2007 9:28:22 PM

Intelligence to me is being able to cop on/work things out for yourself, catching others drift, cottoning on, understanding without having to have things explained over and over again but intelligence is also about asking the right questions in order to get the information you need.

I'll second that!



Intelligence is what you use when you don't know what to do.
 Tan_Y_Ddraig

Joined: 1/28/2007
Msg: 52
How Do You Define Intelligence?
Posted: 9/29/2007 3:29:30 AM
My all time favourite piece of wisdom....

Intelligence, is the key of life!
 MR_newport

Joined: 9/8/2007
Msg: 53
How Do You Define Intelligence?
Posted: 9/29/2007 6:33:30 AM
Intelligence? what Intelligence? lol
 bogglebum2007

Joined: 4/20/2007
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Posted: 9/30/2007 7:31:34 AM
Is there a difference between intelligence and wisdom? If there is then it seems that people are getting intelligence mixed up with wisdom - or does wisdom at some stage become intelligence because someone has been intelligent enought to learn wisdom.

For example someone who is academically intelligent may not have enough wisdom to know when to be quiet. Intelligence and wisdom have totally different definitions in the dictionary and I was wondering whether as some posters have already said that actually intelligence is now a quality that has many different categories - a few examples include :-

Social intelligence = wisdom - knowing what, when and how to say and do things in interactions
Practical intelligence = common sense - eg fixing and mending things
Academic intelligence = good at studies eg GCSEs, university, exams
Emotional intelligence = good at understanding and relating to people. Eg can tell you all about people just by a few exchanges or by reading their profile.
IQ intelligence = good at pattern recognition and conundrums. In general these people can think laterally and can solve difficult problems encountered.
Sexual intelligence - damn good in bed

There are many different tests that can help analyse your strengths and areas that you would have "more intelligence in" such as Myers-Briggs, Keirsey Bates and Herrmann Brain Dominance Instrument.

Personally I don't believe that we can say that someone is more intelligent than another but we can find, enjoy and learn from each others strengths. If anyone has read the biography of Edison, you will find that he did not have much academic schooling (three months I think) but he surrounded himself with all different types of scientists (who were considered intelligent in those days) and turned their discoveries into practical useful devices for society. If you aren't sure who Edison is - one of the popular devices that he is known for is in bringing the light bulb into your life....:-)
 7rainbows

Joined: 1/6/2007
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Posted: 9/30/2007 8:52:23 AM
for me its not a question of how high they score in an IQ test but more how open minded the person is. Someone who can give an intelligent opinion on a matter, someone who can hold an interesting conversation without having to make fun of absolutly everything, somone who is willing to learn and observe, listen as well as talk.

I dont feel intelligence should be measured by IQ tests, i mean some people are more arty and creative than academic, some more streetwise than experts in the works of shakespear.

Openmindedness and good communication is the turn on rather than intelligence i think.
 PottyGent

Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 56
How Do You Define Intelligence?
Posted: 9/30/2007 10:48:57 AM
The answer it would appear is that one can't define intelligence, it is completely relative to any given situation.

I'm thick as anyways
 silky 39

Joined: 5/14/2007
Msg: 57
How Do You Define Intelligence?
Posted: 9/30/2007 1:17:24 PM
i didnt do very well at school but i still think ive got good commen sence ,well i like to think so lol . x
 Neysha61

Joined: 7/31/2006
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Posted: 10/1/2007 2:07:15 PM
Intelligence ~ book learned, scholar blah blah blah
Wisdom ~ made a huge fvcking mistake and learned from it

KNOW the difference
 central99

Joined: 3/19/2007
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Posted: 10/5/2007 1:40:05 PM
The ability to use the the Queen's English is usually a good pointer.
 Andythx

Joined: 9/28/2007
Msg: 60
How Do You Define Intelligence?
Posted: 10/5/2007 6:18:02 PM
Who am I what I am doing here those are words for each and everyone of us to deicide on, what can each one of achieve whether its writing a book designing a new product to help the disabled it all depends what you mean by the word, "intelligence". I never got a good education, but thanks to Microsoft word, where I can type more comfortably. And if I get stuck on specific words I let Google and Google image help me along with the difficulties.
 Semi-Mental

Joined: 12/29/2006
Msg: 61
How Do You Define Intelligence?
Posted: 10/6/2007 12:00:46 AM

My sister is a hairdresser and gets the stereotypical look from people. Yet if you ask her a question about hair she knows it down to the folicle and further( sorry i'm ignorant on this) she has a fantastic ability to make people feel at ease, and finds the good in people all the time. I think this is something to be admired. She has a career she enjoys and get paid a lot of money to do so.


My younger sister is also a hairdresser and has just started her NVQ level 3 and I had look through and I think it is ALOT harder than my A levels but I think her job is alot harder and requires alot more concentration and creativity than I and many people have. MAny people look down on her for her job but she is on damn good money and you wouldn't let someone with a PHD loose with some scissors on your hair eh?(unless they were a hairdresser too)
 PottyGent

Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 62
How Do You Define Intelligence?
Posted: 10/6/2007 4:57:40 AM

you wouldn't let someone with a PHD loose with some scissors on your hair eh?(unless they were a hairdresser too)


And there are a thousand things I wouldn't let a hairdresser do to me either. Few I can think of I'd let the right one do though.
 the cut and paste king

Joined: 10/1/2007
Msg: 63
How Do You Define Intelligence?
Posted: 10/6/2007 5:00:20 AM
And there are a thousand things I wouldn't let a hairdresser do to me either. Few I can think of I'd let the right one do though


woud not mind seeing what they could do with mine


we all have something which is our forte whether deemed intelligent or not by others,
 Semi-Mental

Joined: 12/29/2006
Msg: 64
How Do You Define Intelligence?
Posted: 10/6/2007 3:28:45 PM
That's what my point kind of is, everyone is intelligent in our own way and it shouldn't be measured by the books we have read and the languages we can speak etc
 grishnak

Joined: 7/1/2006
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Posted: 10/16/2007 9:03:52 AM
We recognize inteligence and name it, ie treet wise etc, we see it in design and in the way a person my speak or feel, It is everywere , I see it as part of the beauty of existance .
 bogglebum2007

Joined: 4/20/2007
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Posted: 10/16/2007 9:19:07 AM

That's what my point kind of is, everyone is intelligent in our own way and it shouldn't be measured by the books we have read and the languages we can speak etc
Some languages are so hard that it really takes an intelligent person to really appreciate the flow and inflections for example:- jsdimas aiouead isdfunaw asdyiwhn css cop ap spfjnw fosja woij dasl ryi andn toasmn ensdn
 shellyt14

Joined: 5/23/2007
Msg: 67
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Posted: 10/16/2007 1:59:17 PM
I beleive there are many ways to define intelligence besides using an IQ test. I personally know someone with a very high IQ, but shes also the clumsiest, dizziest person I know. She can put the cofee jar in the fridge and the milk in the cupboard, without giving it a second thought and wouldnt realise what shes done. (hello)

Common sense, something that appears to be not so common in many of us tops the list when trying to define intelligence. The majority of the population dont even come close to being MENSA material but have enough know how to function in there daily lives, jobs, families and social situations. They can remember where the groceries go ready for the next Nescafe moment. Which is far more important and useful than any MENSA meeting.

Being emotionally intelligent which gives you the ability to have strong personal relationships and take pride in your, freinds, families and children. Makes for a better well adjusted life. Which is all the intelligence I need.
 Kobayashi

Joined: 10/16/2007
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Posted: 10/21/2007 5:11:58 AM
Here is my 2 cents worth.....

Intelligence has nothing to do with education. Frequently, people confused a well educated person with an intelligent person. This is because some people just regurgitate information they came across in their education and others around them get mesmerisd! Education imparts knowledge and information as well as mental training for a student. A student can be highly unintelligent and passes his examinations purely on his good memory but will not receive good grades because he does not know how to apply the knowledge he received because he is unintelligent.

So what is intelligence? I am not sure. Take a particular situation >>> A person (lets call him A) has just been introduced to a new subject he knows nothing about by an 'expert' (expert! wots that?). Then if A can raise a question which the expert cannot answer (indeed, may not have thought of it before), then A is shown to be intelligent as he has managed to absorb the information he has just received, undertood it and can question it.

I am not necessarily referring to nuclear science in the above analogy; say a motor mechanic explaining the workings of the combustion engine to a teacher.

Intelligent has nothing to do with respect for others (this is just a personality trait), politeness (again just a personal trait), consideration for others, selfishness, etc. etc.

So, as pointed out in earlier messages, a streetwise individual can be more intelligent than an academic. (One could argue the former graduated from the University of the Streets!)

Finally, I think Mensa and IQ tests are all biased as they tend to be skewed towards the Western civilisation only.

Hey, just be Happy... Intelligence is too overrated as it does not necessarily make you a good person or a happy person. In fact, it can be very frustrating and lonely to be intelligent.
 rachwales

Joined: 9/21/2007
Msg: 69
How Do You Define Intelligence?
Posted: 10/21/2007 5:55:32 AM
i think intelligence comes from how much you take in from lifes different experiences.
to be open minded and interested in most things going on in the world around you,and to know how to except everyone is different and to respect others and their opinions, dont think its all down to what u can show on paper at all.
 Laine07

Joined: 9/18/2007
Msg: 70
How Do You Define Intelligence?
Posted: 10/21/2007 9:56:32 AM
I don't think you can measure intelligence with a test, or pieces of paper, if you train for something, you just train for that "thing", Intelligence encompasses many things.

An interesting thing i was told by my tutor when i went to college to learn to become an electrician, many years ago. (a very very wise man indeed)

"Pupils do not fail exams, the teachers fail to teach them properly."

He was one of the men who invented the wolf missile. i have the utmost admiration for him to this day. (but he would keep stealing my sherbet lemons in class!!!!)

I consider myself an intelligent person, have actually been accused many times of being an intellect and philosophical. (trust me, i'm a giggler!!! can do the hair-brained blonde bit) But! when needed in my counselling guise..... I'm utterly professional.
I think "Balance" is the key.
Bit like a recipe i guess....... a bit of intelligence,wisdom, plus some compassion and emotional stability.

To be able to assess a situation, to be able to listen, be fair and non-judgemental.
to me at least, the above means "Intelligence"
 BarbelBil

Joined: 4/30/2006
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Posted: 10/21/2007 9:57:47 AM
In my experience, human related intelligence can be distinguished from other assets with which it can be initially confused.

Many of us, for example, might well assume that someone possessing a broad range in terms of knowledge is intelligent. Whilst in some cases, this may be well be true, one’s capacity of knowledge and his or her ability to call forward/recite specific information stored there does not, by any stretch of the imagination, tell us how intelligent they are.

However, the ease with which an individual can grasp and learn what they have come to know is arguably more relevant to the meaning behind the term. Understanding or, rather more accurately, ‘speed of understanding’ is undoubtedly a facet of intelligence. So anyone who can truly be deemed a quick learner is intelligent to some degree, in some cases vastly.

Knowledge, on the other hand, is purely that – knowledge. In the realms of what we may perceive as normal (for want of a better term), it is within every human being’s capability to become knowledgeable. Equally, one’s own or a collective pool of knowledge can be forgotten if not practised. Knowledge, therefore, might only be held temporarily whilst, by and large, the levels of intelligence each of us possess do not have to be learned. Perhaps neither can they be forgotten. Quite simply, our own unique levels of intelligence do not require practice and are more inclined to be permanent.

That said: clearly there are methods by which humans can hone their natural levels of intelligence. For example, because someone already possesses the ability to assimilate information quite quickly, they can add other facets of intelligence by learning to change irrational points of view into rational ones.

Admittedly that’s not always an easy task for some folk to do. Arguably, however, it could turn out to be sound advice for some of those unfortunate folk who attempt to pull the wool over our eyes by passing themselves off as intelligent whilst they remain completely oblivious to the meaning of the word. And what worries me most is just how many members describe themselves as such on their profiles.

Ah, I ask you, where would we all be without the strange, the weird and the downright wonderful world of POF and all the intelligent folk who lurk on it?

Don’t you just love the place? I know I do!

Regards

BB.
How Do You Define Intelligence?
Posted: 10/21/2007 11:18:19 AM
I Q tests are good for those who are good at IQ tests....so there are intelligent people out there that would fail...

common sense..they ought to have a test fot that as that's lacking at times...especially on forums...: O)
 Kobayashi

Joined: 10/16/2007
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Posted: 10/21/2007 4:11:35 PM
BB (msg 70),

I concur with you (see my msg above). Another thing.... the term 'professional' & 'intelligent' should never be self accorded. Sadly, lots of people do so.
 gtokid

Joined: 2/18/2007
Msg: 74
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Posted: 10/22/2007 8:53:53 AM
Intelligence:

The ability to understand rather than repeat, to a level where one can innovate and create rather than rely on out of box answers!

Intelligence doesn't come from learning - it comes from being able to apply knowledge to circumstances in a logical and precise manor with a predictable outcome!
 restless_native

Joined: 12/17/2006
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Posted: 10/22/2007 9:32:45 AM
Intelligence is the ability to google and copy & paste in an attempt to ram you inflexible opinions down the throats of others. It also helps if you are completely unfamiliar with the concept of context and have an ability to twist what others say in order to make your point.

I must admit that whenever I see people doing things like that I do marvel at their intelligence.
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