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 debzindahouse

Joined: 10/23/2007
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Posted: 5/9/2009 7:47:29 AM
No, the whole transexual idea kinda grosses me out. I wouldn't even date a real man who'd ever BEEN with a tranny. Quite disturbing how many "straight men" get turned on by them, though. Just goes to show men have no boundaries when it comes to sex.
 minnx

Joined: 10/10/2008
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Posted: 5/9/2009 8:49:08 AM
Mis read the title. Thought it said 'Pop up transsexuls.'
 FunkyMonkee

Joined: 4/7/2009
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Posted: 5/9/2009 9:41:13 AM
I definitely would not becasue the whole process of transforming is incredibly traumatic.

I really would not feel comfortable with a hybrid - my imagination is far too active for me to be able to derive satisfaction on that alone for me to feel comfortable in that type of relationship.
 Dark Owl

Joined: 3/7/2009
Msg: 179
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Posted: 5/13/2009 2:46:52 PM
I don't think I'd have any problem dating a mtf transsexual as long as I feel attraction. As for the sex, there is no better stimulant like your own mind, if you know how to use it of course.
 hicaril

Joined: 9/27/2008
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Posted: 5/18/2009 9:32:19 PM
As a psychologist and cultural anthropologist I recognize that every person has, within themselves, a mix of gender and sexual characteristics. We all live on a continuum between culturally idealized masculine and feminine characteristics as well as on a continuum between heterosexual and homosexual attractions. We are attracted to one another in a variety of ways, each to another individual in different ways, people with attractive characteristics, morphologies, behaviors, gender presentation, sexual attributes and impulses getting together for different reasons. These gender and sexual differences between individuals are obvious to the broad minded, to the the observant and the educated, However less so for those few blinded by fears-of-prejudice or religious dogmas.

Each gender and sexual predisposition has biological roots born within our species, as well as all other species, each resulting from varied hormonal balances during fetal development, for us, in the fourth month of gestation. These conditions predispose the growth and development of the hypothalamus, a primal part of the brain that controls gender and sexuality. These hormonal balances within the mother are effected by environmental as well as genetic predispositions (malnutrition, environmental stressors as well as chromosomal/genetic variations), not to be confused with something "abnormal" these variations within our species guard against over-population and arise randomly thru-out all populations and all cultures... these gender and sexual differentiations are involuntary by their nature!

Such varied gender and sexual characteristics and their attendant drives offer a diversity that allows bonding between people across gender-lines and sexual-differentiations... they create attractions between all individuals, social groups, clans and communities, supporting a bonding with each other, everybody attracted in different ways to each other, males bonding with each other, females appreciating each other and sexual reproduction to occur... all people poses caring impulses that offer mutual attraction, mutual support and ultimately survival within a biological system-of-attraction!

These are the fundamentals of our dating attraction folks, and as we better define our impulse toward each other in this grand cyber-pond let us be true to who we are, let us get in touch with the nature of our gender and our internal sexual drive, and bond together with honesty, mutual respect and self awareness...

Oh Yes, the issues of homophobic-panic (homosexuals in denial) are the result of people out of touch with their gender and sexual nature, finding themselves in a personal, often sublimated, psychological conflict with themselves, out of touch with their gender balance or sexual nature. This is another issue... so maybe later. Caril Ridley
 RobinsonUK

Joined: 1/2/2009
Msg: 181
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Posted: 5/19/2009 12:26:37 AM
Good god hicaril, I've never read such a load of complete bollocks in my entire life. You seem to be proposing the idea that I should shag Mike with my feminine side, just because his brain is more womanly and his surgeon has given him something that vaguely resembles female sexual organs.
 kent_lee

Joined: 8/31/2006
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Posted: 5/19/2009 12:32:27 AM
i guess some of us are more evolved and further down the road of sexual enlightenment than others.
 RobinsonUK

Joined: 1/2/2009
Msg: 183
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Posted: 5/19/2009 12:34:39 AM


i guess some of us are more evolved and further down the road of sexual enlightenment than others.


It means you're gay or bisexual. These days it's pretty much illegal to be heterosexual.
 kent_lee

Joined: 8/31/2006
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Posted: 5/19/2009 12:42:57 AM
i don't think it's ever been illegal to be heterosexual ...

the internet has done a lot to open peoples eyes, to show them that the world is a beautiful place full of beautiful people regardless of gender or sexual orientation ... there is, of course, still a large number of people who refuse to open their minds to this fact.
 - Hula Moo -

Joined: 1/30/2009
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Posted: 5/19/2009 1:05:36 AM

Good god hicaril, I've never read such a load of complete bollocks in my entire life. You seem to be proposing the idea that I should shag Mike with my feminine side, just because his brain is more womanly and his surgeon has given him something that vaguely resembles female sexual organs.


Don't talk wet man!
The only place sex and attraction is a black and white issue is in people's screwed-up psyche.
The point being made is that we are attracted to different people for different things and in different ways. What is the problem with that? Why is it perceived to be threatening?
Why is the thought of sleeping with a formed woman so scary?

Consider these examples, where would you draw the line and why?
Sleeping with a congenital woman;
Sleeping with a congenital woman who had had some form of genital surgery;
Sleeping with a congenital woman who has no womb;
Sleeping with a congenital woman, who after tests finds out she is a genetic male (XY), but who is legally and visually a woman;
Sleeping with a transsexual woman.

I have never (knowingly) met a F2M transsexual, so, to be fair, I've never had cause to test my beliefs.
I hope I don't turn out to be a Neanderthal oik like some whom have posted.
 Macforty

Joined: 2/12/2009
Msg: 186
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Posted: 5/19/2009 1:13:18 AM
Is Claudia Winkleman a pre-op ??

 peter1951

Joined: 5/11/2009
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Posted: 5/19/2009 2:42:45 AM
H (180).

I enjoyed reading your piece and took a look at your profile, the first line of which sums things up nicely...

"The most judgemental are the most judged, for they judge themselves"
 toolfan85

Joined: 5/20/2008
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Posted: 5/19/2009 4:40:42 AM
...

I now have a new number one phobia
 RobinsonUK

Joined: 1/2/2009
Msg: 189
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Posted: 5/19/2009 11:18:42 AM

Don't talk wet man!
The only place sex and attraction is a black and white issue is in people's screwed-up psyche.
The point being made is that we are attracted to different people for different things and in different ways. What is the problem with that? Why is it perceived to be threatening?
Why is the thought of sleeping with a formed woman so scary?


Nobody said sex and attraction are black and white, I was simply proposing that there's nothing "liberated" or particularly "open minded" about being willing to shag anything. I resent the idea that I'm somehow `scared' or `threatened'. I find the idea of having sex with a man nauseating; it's not a social taboo or cultural convention any more than prohibitions against incest are.
 Macforty

Joined: 2/12/2009
Msg: 190
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Posted: 5/19/2009 12:21:09 PM

Why is the thought of sleeping with a formed woman so scary?

I dont think it scary but totally unnatural.
Would you shag a panda if it had a mans penis attached and was taught to fart in bed ?

 - Hula Moo -

Joined: 1/30/2009
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Posted: 5/19/2009 2:22:06 PM

Would you shag a panda if it had a mans penis attached and was taught to fart in bed ?

Would I be able to tell the difference?


The point I was making gents was about drawing the line.
Why is a formed woman, in your eyes, less of a woman?

Assuming that a F2M transition involved a penis that was undetectably different from one made in the womb (I don't know the current state of surgical expertise in that field) and that said penis was attached to someone to was apparently male, I can't see that it would be an issue.

Certainly in M2F transitions, the surgically formed genitalia is almost better than nature.

So, why is the womb formed one the only one that you would consider?

Where, chaps, do you draw the line?
 peter1951

Joined: 5/11/2009
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Posted: 5/19/2009 2:48:41 PM
It would appear that many men are turned on by 'reconstructed women' (breast implants, face-lift etc)

Maybe such women (less than perfect in the eyes of the male) might be described as ugly ducklings that (through surgery) are turned into elegent swans.

Is this any worse than a surgically engineered MTF transexual?
 Labdien!

Joined: 10/14/2007
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Posted: 5/19/2009 3:48:51 PM

Where, chaps, do you draw the line?


Well the only M2F person I know still has a large adams apple and a hint of a 5 o'clock shadow....... and that's my line firmly drawn thank you!
 barbiebabe3000

Joined: 5/4/2009
Msg: 194
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Posted: 6/2/2009 1:19:05 PM
Ya I would, it really wouldnt bother me.
 paul15269

Joined: 5/23/2009
Msg: 195
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Posted: 6/2/2009 1:55:40 PM
Im a post taumatic hedgehog
 Alex198x

Joined: 8/2/2008
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Posted: 6/2/2009 2:26:07 PM
I dated one, see my post on here. She's the only female (or wateva) that would give me a chance.
 Mallorylick

Joined: 9/30/2006
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Posted: 6/2/2009 9:20:40 PM
I would definitely have no problem with either a post-op or even pre-op transexual. We are all beings born with needs and desires. Never mind the sex for a moment. People who are transexuals are people who need love compassion understanding and acceptance. The people who go through the whole process of becoming male or female is not something that is done without a lot of soul searching and proper counselling (if someone else has pointed this out already forgive me I haven't read all the other replies). The process of transitioning is a very difficult one. Aside from the hormonal and psychological conflicts the person is going through, the risk of becoming a pariah is also very great. It is for this reason alone that support and understanding are an imperative.

I would be very comfortable dating a post op transexual because we all need love. Since I can't find what I'm looking for in a genetic female, Id be happy with a post op who could be just as loving and nurturing.

Well anyway, that's my input.

Mallory
 RobinsonUK

Joined: 1/2/2009
Msg: 198
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Posted: 6/3/2009 12:20:15 AM


Well anyway, that's my input.

Mallory


Thanks for that, Dave.
 debzindahouse

Joined: 10/23/2007
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Posted: 6/3/2009 5:10:42 AM
I find it insulting that some people think all it takes to be a woman is the ability to squeeze into a size 13 stiletto. Until he can bleed for a week, produce babies, suffer water retention and menopause, and a host of other feminine treats, they are not women. There’s a whole lifelong experience to being female, the way we’re conditioned and socialised, the values we’re taught, how we’re expected to live and behave, what we’re expected to aspire to, what we’re taught to fear and embrace, our emotional development. The list is endless. Transsexuals get only some of the physical attributes and none of the sociopsychological conditioning.

I have nothing against transgender people and I buy the fact that they probably are born with the wrong equipment. But like it or not, there’s more to being a woman than having a hole between your legs.
 kent_lee

Joined: 8/31/2006
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Posted: 6/3/2009 5:16:49 AM
so does that mean a woman who can't bleed for a week or produce babies and has not suffered water retention and menopause or a host of other feminine treats is not a real woman .....
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