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Posted: 6/3/2009 5:23:19 AM | | Yes she would still be a woman - if she was born with the equipment and socialised as a female. You're describing people with medical conditions. You have a very low opinion of women if you think all it takes is a strategically placed, reconstructed hole. | |
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| Post op transsexuals.
Posted: 6/3/2009 5:32:10 AM |
Until he can bleed for a week, produce babies, suffer water retention and menopause, and a host of other feminine treats, they are not women.
There are many, many birth women that don't do that.
I haven't bled for more than 10 years, nor am I likely to produce any more babies. Does that mean I'm not a woman?
But like it or not, there’s more to being a woman than having a hole between your legs.
I agree entirely. The question remains though, what does make a woman/man?
Isn't the whole point of gender reassignment a matter of bringing the physical body into line with the mental one?
Can a man not be a woman until he has suffered the discrimination that other men afford us because we are missing that vital bit of brain that lives between a man's legs? I think it's safe to say that transsexuals could write a book on discrimination.
IMO, our gender is more about what goes on inside our heads and less to do with our genital arrangement. Money's Bruce to Brenda case study demonstrates that.
Bruce was a twin baby boy, who suffered severe genital damage at the age of about 18 months. On the advice of Money, a psychologist who believed that babies were blank canvasses as far as sex and gender were concerned, Bruce had further surgery as a baby to remove what was left of his penis. He was then brought up as Brenda. He did not know that he was actually a boy until he was in late adolescence. Brenda suffered many of the same problems reported by elective transsexuals, she felt she was in the wrong body. She felt she was a male.
Bruce/Brenda's whole life was fcuked up by the decision made on her behalf. As an adult, she opted to come out as a male. As a man, he found a kind of peace. He had a long term relationship with a woman and became a father to her children. Unfortunately, when the relationship ended, Bruce was too psychologically damaged by his past to be able to heal. He took his own life shortly afterward.
If gender is as simple as having a c0ck or not, then Bruce/Brenda's story would be very different.
Who am I to say that because I have a fanny shaped by nature rather than a surgeon's scalpel that I am therefore more of a woman than one who has actively chosen her sex? | |
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| Post op transsexuals.
Posted: 6/3/2009 5:36:15 AM | *Shudder* At the end of the day, your knobs still being battered by an adams apple when your getting a BJ.  | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 6:10:59 AM | No, as a 100% straight man I wouldn't.
Even if a transexual looks like a woman and has all the right parts fully functioning, he is still a man. | |
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| Post op transsexuals.
Posted: 10/19/2009 4:59:55 AM | well.. it is quite evidential that transgendered people must have some sort of mental issue, not saying it is the wrong thing to do.. it just isn't something a "normal" person would do. But in my view you are still the same sex you were when you were born. For example, you can put a ford engine in a vauxhall car, the car will look like a vauxhall but will still be a ford due to the engine.. also the operation does not change the DNA, only the appearance.. so if you are born a man, you are a man and vice versa.
i would not date a transexual, because i am not homosexual. | |
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| Post op transsexuals.
Posted: 10/19/2009 5:16:41 AM | Remember we are talking POST - op here :
For example, you can put a ford engine in a vauxhall car, the car will look like a vauxhall but will still be a ford due to the engine
To continue the analogy :-
Actually Nope, it will be a Vauxhall in every way (looks, appearance, handling, comfort etc etc ) ... only the very experienced and those 'in the know' would be able to tell that there was something a bit different about this Vauxhall...
Same with a POST op - you would not even know neccessarliy unless someone told you.
(actually you would never want to put a Ford motor into a Vauxhall, as everone in the know realises that the Vauxhall red top motor is way superior to the modern Ford stuff ... loads of red tops find their way into modded Mk1 and Mk 2 Escorts etc etc ... ) | |
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| Post op transsexuals.
Posted: 10/19/2009 5:40:16 AM | | whilst in your correction of my analogy..you actually helped to prove my point ogger, thank you :) | |
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| Post op transsexuals.
Posted: 10/19/2009 5:51:06 AM |
whilst in your correction of my analogy..you actually helped to prove my point ogger, thank you :)
Yeah, might have done , Ross, got meself really confused there lol ! | |
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| Post op transsexuals.
Posted: 10/19/2009 8:37:34 AM | "i would not date a transexual, because i am not homosexual"
your knuckles must get sore from them dragging along the floor all the time .... | |
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| Post op transsexuals.
Posted: 10/23/2009 6:19:05 AM | been there. done that.
had a great time. very nice person. | |
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| Post op transsexuals.
Posted: 10/23/2009 10:47:03 AM | | no i couldnt date a post op transexual, but i can sympathise with the condition they have and with their troubled confusion. females are born with 2 connecting branches between the two hemispheres of the brain where male's only have one. they also have a slightly different skeleton. a lot of the time males who feel they should have been born female actually have a female brain and skeleton but male genitals. so you can understand why they'd want to be fully female and also the confusion they must feel when growing up. i really dont think its something that should be ridiculed | |
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| Post op transsexuals.
Posted: 10/24/2009 7:10:56 AM | | I can not come up with any reason not to do .Infact anybody who has gone through so much mental and bodily pain just to live as they want to do has my greatest respect. | |
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