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Posted: 3/21/2005 12:16:02 AM | Being the guy people call when they are in trouble... all kinds of trouble... and having the uncanny ability to chance upon people when they are in trouble, I am only too painfully aware of just how.... serious, dangerous, dicouraging, and troubling "disorders" can be.
Yes, it is true... sometimes things can be over diagnosed... or misdiagosed... or just missed altogether.
Unfortunately the psychiatric profession is not able to wave a magic wand and get the diagonoses and the treatment right the first time every time... never mind how often it may take several efforts. That does not mean that the individual who is in trouble isnt.
For every person out there, there is is a different degree of severity, a unique mix of symptoms, and a unique reaction to the meds. This is not limited to mental disorders, btw...
Just ask some of the people who have other medical problems.
Yes, we need to take responsibility for ourselves... but we might also need some help from a friend... or few. And in the case of something like bi-polar, a good kick in the a$$ might be the last thing a person feels just before they go off that bridge sideways.
And for those who might think I am talking out the side of my face, I have been studying what makes people tick since I was knee high to an amoeba. One of the things I make my living at is teaching disability awareness, the scope of which includes visible and invisible disabilities. It would also not be the first time I had a call from a cop to come talk someone off of a bridge either.
So before people start with the wise cracks about how this or that is over diagnosed... or not real... or just a plea for attention... look at the small picture. Remeber that people are not the disability that they have, they are just people with a disability. And that does not matter if it is a mental disorder or not. Look at them as people, and look at the situation they are in as uniquely as the person who is in it. | |
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Posted: 3/21/2005 4:22:35 PM | Just found this thread
Today the packers came in
Tomorrow the movers come in
25 yrs together down to post it flags
My ex was diagnosed 4 yrs ago at the age of 54. At that time the stats for a marriage surviving that diagnosis was less than 5% at the 5 yr mark.
I KNEW we were going to beat those odds
Wrong.
yna6, I don't know your story but I do know mine and without meds he was OFF THE F***ING WALL
A brilliant M.D like yours Salamander.
We talk ..we have a daughter, but the man I see is nobody I know...
I have moved on but feel guilty from time to time that I am not still there for him, but my own sanity was being threatened by the lies and deceit , affairs and porn fixation, (and understand that with the right person that is a turn on).
I just pray that mydaughter does not go down that road | |
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Posted: 3/22/2005 2:31:44 PM | | if he has become violent then it is likely that he will become violent again, and sometimes the meds don't work or they stop taking them. If he cannot get a handle on his illness, it is very dangerous for you to stay there, and to put your child in that danger could be considered endangerment, and they could take him away from you. | |
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Posted: 3/23/2005 12:01:31 PM | My Step Sister is Bi-Polar.
With out her Medicine! OMG it is like a different person.
It is sad though... Last time I saw her she had went into one of her manias, put in the hospital and did not talk to her for almost 4 years. Found her recently and the last mania she had messed her up really bad. She will never recover to her old self again. They hve her on such high doses of medicine just to keep her from going into her manias.
Lithium (however it is spelled) is just one of the drugs she is on. She is so sedated that it is hard to carry a conversation with her.
Most of the drugs such as lithium can cause brain cancer or tumors, for prolonged use.
So what is she suppose to do? Go off them and then be instatutionalized? Or take the high chance of devveloping cancer or a tumor? | |
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Posted: 3/23/2005 12:04:51 PM | | what kind of life is that to be so drugged and instutionalized, most that have gone that far there is little hope for a real life. I would rather somebody shoot me if I get that bad, or allow me to take my own life. I'm don't mean to sound callous about your sister, it truly is sad. I just hope that I kind find somebody that beleives in euthanasia if I ever got that bad. | |
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Posted: 3/23/2005 1:12:45 PM | | My father's first wife vascilated between mania and sever hypochondria. Might have been bipolar but hard to tell in the 50s. He told me he knew he had to get out of the relationship when the stress of caring for her led him to simply collapse when climbing stairs one day. He said that was the point that he realised he would either have to end his marrige or it would litterally kill him. | |
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Posted: 3/23/2005 6:03:27 PM | A man tripped through our town about 6 years ago that created havoc everywhere he went. He followed married women, tried to pawn himself off on employers, ingrossed himself in our theatrical group by telling them what his role was, all kinds of social catastrophies....
Turned out he was BiPolar (off his meds) and was chasing his ex around the globe. He kept finding her.
This man applied to be my house mate (rent a room from me). Thank God he found a room closer to his ex.
Oddly enough he was extremely intelligent and creative. The kind of guy you would enjoy chatting up. He wasn't too bad to look at either.
Sad.
I heard he met a woman on line and moved to Seattle.
When my husband died, a couple of my doctors (family & gyno) suggested I get on downers. This without asking for them!!!!
I have to question going through 3 months of meds to "have a good holiday season".
I chose instead to cry when I cry and be happy when I am happy. My family and friends understand that sometimes I'm not up to snuff. No problems. | |
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Posted: 3/23/2005 6:30:35 PM | | my soon-to-be-ex husband is bipolar. i've gone through episodes with him that were very hard, but i must say that it was his everyday mood swings that finally ended our relationship. i thought i was strong enough to handle it, but have realized that i am not. | |
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Posted: 3/24/2005 8:25:10 AM | The “buck-up” concept has always been my motto. It’s served me well most of my life. I never believed that there was any problem that was beyond that solution. But I live with a bi-polar woman. She is in her late 20’s. She is also my flesh and blood.
I have picked up her OD’d, bloody body and taken her to the hospital and seen her sewed up and her stomach pumped. I have seen her strapped down to a bed in an institution. Watched her go from one of the most beautiful, talented and intelligent women I have ever known to a raving, screaming animal.
Over-diagnosed? Probably. And I’m one of the most skeptical people around. But at one point it was brought very clearly to my attention that I had better take this seriously or resign myself to burying my child soon. So I do “buck-up”. But I help her stay on her meds… help her remember to write in her diary… and help her avoid the triggers that set her off. Because she can’t “buck-up”. | |
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Posted: 3/24/2005 8:39:04 AM | | I am just coming out of a marriage where she was either bi polar or something else. No one understands this disease until they have either lived with it or with someone who has it. I think the key is that the person who has it has to understand that they actually have it and let others help them. In my case she knows she has it but does not feel it has affected her life when in reality it destroyed our relationship and that of her children. It is a very sad disease. Can it be helped? yes, but the person has to be willing to get it. My thoughts on the topic, have a great day all!! | |
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Posted: 3/27/2005 10:40:24 PM | I had to sign in, and post (long) on this specific thread ...
I am a 31 year old European man, with inumerous stories along my life, that indicated how bright I am, and how great my future should be.
I work for a 70,000 workers corporation, where I am ranked/perceived as a star, a talent. For this reason I earned the opportunity for a contract in the US, where in one year I already gained my position/status, mainly due to efforts that most see almost as unrealistic, and a strong moral relating to others.
Most of my co-workers would describe me as very responsible with a huge future ahead.
On a more personal level, my closest friends, recognize me as a man of strong convictions, great moral, with extreme sensitivity and emotional inteligence, and with a heart capable of the highest achievments. Well, I am not married, but hey, some guys are just born to be playboys.
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It all started with my Lego's ... When I could not fit the last piece, I would destroy everything...
My emotional swings, I thought, were just part of who I am, and the prize to pay to have such a magnitude of emotions and inteligence. Age would give me more maturity and slowly work this carbon piece into a shinny beautiful diamond. It didn't ...
The alchool and gambling, were, I thought, addictions that I would have to deal on a mature and responsible manner, so a thousand times I decided I would quit. I didn't ...
Love ... Now that's a killer topic ... Almost unbelievable how I can not relate to wonderful women that went by in my life, yet can have delirious fantasies with someone I hardly know ... I feel half of me is much more mature, is very mature, but half of me is looking for answers I just can not find....
What a lot of people also don't know, is the lack of control I show in certain situations... Especially with loved ones ... I come from a family of disturbed people, my mother especially ... I always thought the fights we had were mainly driven by this ... It was not really me the root cause. I now think I was ... At least as much as my mother, that by the way I love and admire like I hope one day my kids will about me... And then again, if you go on vacations with someone that got divorced because she felt madly inlove with you, and you end the vacations breaking a lot of stuff on a hotel room, it's just your temper, and plus you recognize after you should have not done that !!! So shouldn't be that bad.. But it is.
In the middle of this path for answers, like some of you here, I subscribe to plenty of fish ...
After some time, again like some of you, I deleted my profile ....
But still, one more time like some of you, I got back to see the threads ...
So post leads to profile, to post, to profile, to profile, to post, to "Bipolar Disorder thread" ... What in Jesus name is that ???
I was very surprised that I matched a lot of the things that I read, then went on the net to read some more ... It matched even more ...
I called my dad the day after (one week ago), and clearly discuss with him the topic, if he was ever diagnosed with something like this, because I felt I may had some symptoms...
Conclusion was, he would call my shrink for 10 years (my father's very good friend and now also mine) and discuss it with him.
Day after I had an email from my father to contact the Doctor, who confirmed that he detected Bipolar symptoms in me, that never felt so extreme, so he gave me medicine for it during some periods, but never felt should be stated as a final diagnosis. (I respect his decision and understand it). It was agreed that I would see a Doctor in the US, and call him to get always a second opinion.
My first reaction to this was very positive. I felt this was the piece of the puzzle missing, that would allow me to understand myself better, and finally move on with my life. I accept me and will accept this as any other health problem I could have. I just want to be happy!
Since then things have gotten worst. In the last couple of days, I've cried once in a while.
My fear is, that this construction I made of myself, my dreams, my ambitions, my capabilities, my capacity, my creativity, my emotions, in the end the potential I feel I have, how wonderful I believe I can be, may be not more than the result of a mental disorder ...
And there may be no either .... It's may be an and ...
I guess this is probably the weirdest plenty of fish testimonial ... But I felt I had to write this post to myself ... Too long to be read ...
Everyone is worried, that I am here on my own, with an ocean apart... But I will do good.
With regard to my good friend (vacation episode), who happens to be inlove with me, now that I understand better the seriousness of this, I am taking her out of this game. I know I can hurt her, just talking on the phone ....
Plus, if one thing I can thank my mother is for passing the fighting genes to me. I don't give up ! I may bang my head against the walls, but **** the bridge !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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Posted: 3/28/2005 7:06:08 AM | try smoking a joint when you feel that tightness in you chest that leads to manic episodes of insanity.
I would rather die a mad man with excellant works of inspiration left from my life, then to live calmly not really doing much. the greatest philosophers and artists could be considered as bipolor, but they directed that insanity into their art and created things that changed the world. | |
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Posted: 4/4/2005 10:43:24 PM | joints are fun, i agree (ex toker here) but they do modify your moods which well only adds to the problem, making the emotional rollercoaster at little more wild.
I talked to my doctor about depression, Here was his answer, 30 years ago depression was rare and hardly ever a issue for a visit to the doctor office, now it's so common he wants to pull his hair out.
80% of his patients with depression is work related.
20% of his patients with depression is relationship related.
A small minority of both is a actual problem.
For the most part it's the way we live our lives.
A example you can test yourself to see if this is true or not, so you got the facts on your own and can't argue this. Run a survey and see where the majority of depressed people are and how they live. Factory workers versus people who work outdoors. Rarely you'll see someone who works out doors with depression. It's extremely common on a assembly line. How your thinking is how you feel. Direct correlation there.
Worse part is depression is commonly not the depressed persons fault. It's usually someone else's BS that got through to the person. | |
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Posted: 4/10/2005 2:50:48 AM | Hey old man how many years have you had to deal or cope with Bipolar i'm age 30 and have been dealing with this since age 15 doesn't sound like you understand it very well like most idiots who don't know what the hell it's like to walk in our shoes. So if you don't suffer from Bipolar I have a piece of advice for you my friend shut your hole and show a little honor not disrespect for those who suffer on a daily basis it's people like you who make me want too throw up God you make me soo sick. Why in the hell you would even be on this forum I don't know but looks like to me your in the wrong place and it's people like me who really do suffer and have a real clinical problem that's not imaginary or just in our heads that have to deal with a** ho*** like yourself with the puny brain. It get's real old when people like you go around talking about this problem like it's make believe or imaginary. So tell me this would you go up to a diabetic and say hey it's just in your head get a life no I don't think so what's the differance you might say what because one is physical and the other not wrong open your eyes if your going to be a skeptic go somewhere else and get a frigin life geez. The human brain is just as vulnerable as any other part of the body and there is no such thing as a perfect human we are all defective in many ways some worse than others for example you are most defective. Sounds like you need too educate yourself on the facts and stop the bs. | |
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Posted: 4/10/2005 5:20:02 AM | | i just want to offer my support. reading the posts made me want to cry. We have a lot of depressive illness in the family as well as problems with alcohol. My daughter 14 has suffered with depression and body dismorphic disorder for 2 years and it is heartbreaking to see such a lovely and clever young person trapped by this. it takes her at least 2 hours to get ready every day which means school attendance is bad. i find working almost impossible around looking after her so we have used up all our savings. Worse of all few people understand and think she is vain, when in fact she often thinks she is hideous. She is on 2 prozacs daily which is supposed to help the anxiety - it does a bit - but she is so sleepy she needs about 16hrs sleep a day. she is very bright and caring and wants to be a lawyer in civil rights.Is there any light at the end of the tunnel for her | |
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