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 shore66

Joined: 5/23/2004
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Posted: 4/10/2005 9:06:43 AM
@emeraldforest

My heart goes out to you - it is so difficult to see our children suffer. And the hidden disorders are the worst, because people are so quick to judge.

The only advice I can give is that sometimes it can require trying different medications. I know it has taken my son a few years to finally get on the right meds -and now his life is so much better.
 Emeraldforest

Joined: 3/29/2005
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Posted: 4/10/2005 10:04:36 AM
Thanks for that - unfortunately here the doctors are loathe to prescribe anything other than prozac for under 18's and therapy is hard to come by and expensive.Counselling helps but it is sometimes hard to see exactly how - its just worse if she doesn't go!
 Lonelostsoul

Joined: 3/30/2005
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Posted: 4/10/2005 5:29:24 PM
I had mentioned before that my ex has bi-polar disorder, and that's what ended our marriage. I told her to go to a doctor to get diagnosed 5 years before our marriage ended, but she would not. Into the fifth year of her now defunked second marriage she finally got diagnosed with severe bi-polar. If she had just listened to me ten years earlier she could have received the needed help. I was worried about my daughter (who I've raised alone for the last eleven years) so I have monitored her for the last three years. This year I became positive she has it too (it runs-recorded medically- four generations back on her mothers side including and up to psychosis), but since she left last month durring one of her swings....how do you convince someone that young, eighteen, that they need to go for a formal diagnosis and treatment? I might as well pull my own teeth instead.....
 lost_in_deep_fantasy

Joined: 3/27/2005
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Posted: 4/23/2005 3:50:39 PM
I am finally going to the doctor next week ... My travelling didn't allow me to go before.

I got a contact, through a doctor referred by the only friend I have on this side of the ocean that I could ask this question.

Disapointment is already big as the phone message was "I'm sorry but I am a family teraphy specialist. I'll give you a name of a good doctor and she will give you medicine" ...

Do we actually get to talk ????

I am flying to Europe next week as well, and go there to see my old shrink ...

I have no problem accepting medicine, but never as the one and only solution ...
 PianoMan1256

Joined: 3/24/2005
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Posted: 4/23/2005 5:59:27 PM
I know all about what your saying. And along with the Bi-Polar usually comes the thing called Panic Disorder or anxiety to where you dont feel you belong anywhere socially. Most of this thing I have inherited comes from my dads side of the family also. As for myself, there was a long time that I self medicated with alcohol which for some reason, works wonders except when it wears off, it leaves you in such a low depression or you wake up to panic attacks that you could almost take your own life. The panic attacks are the worst for me. One little secret tho,,,when you seek treatment from a Dr., it does wonders. I havent had a drink since June of 95 and feel great. There is one thing to mention. The two little pills I take daily are far better than than depression or a hangover with panic attacks. And i have accomplished more in the last 10 years than in all the days I wasted trying to drink this disease away. One other note is, why bi-polar people always seem to be talented. I play piano and keyboard by ear, having taken no lessons to speak of. I was forced to take lessons for 6 months at age 12 but hated it and made it unbearable for the teacher. We both agreed that I should continue to play the way I already knew how to play.
 lost_in_deep_fantasy

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Posted: 4/23/2005 7:41:41 PM
Hey PianoMan !

I wanted to send you an email but I am not a female so I can't (buuuhhh)...

Thanks for the support.
 christina181

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Posted: 4/23/2008 10:13:02 AM
my sons father has bi polar and hes a long distance truck driver, and in order to drive he cant take his meds. he has been driving for atleast 4 years....he has chosen to not be a pert of his childs life because he just has to grow up,and he is usually depressed when I talk to him, I dont recall how long he has had it for but he is 23 and since he has been truck driving he has not been taking his meds...one minute hes nice to me wanting to see how our sons doing the next he wont talk to me for months and he does have a temper and it scares me even though he has never hit me...but say if he were to have our son and got mad at him ( hes only 18 months) should I be worried kuz he does have a short temper too
 Evenor

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Posted: 4/23/2008 4:26:53 PM
As I stated elsewhere alot of people are convinced these days by medical companies of having stuff like A.D.D., being bi-polar, etc... just to sell medicine. By medical terms pretty much all children and other people can be classified as having A.D.D. Yet there are some true genuine cases of such in which you can medicate all you want and never truly "fix" it. It's like putting a bandaid on a knee scrapped from falling off a bike. Yeah it takes care of the immediate problem, yet it will continue if the kid doesn't learn how to properly ride the bike so it doesn't happen in the future. Many medical professions, though not all, have a problem acknowledging there is more involved in such than just physical body. There is the soul which is a whole other part of you that is just a part of you as anything else reguardless if you can "see" it or not. Where you think emotions come from? Well rather than get in some big religious/atheist debate on the existence of the soul, just indulge me and go with it for a sec. Ok so you have stuff that the physical part of you wants to do and stuff that your spiritual side wants to do. Often people just pay attention to what's in their head and ignore what's in their hearts... often from beliefs of "can't" "impossible" "unworthy" etc. to do so. So a person that keeps trying to rationalize everything, only following one part of yourself and ignoring what your soul wants to do has effects that build up. The truth of what their soul wants to experience cannot will not be ignored forever. Like all truth, no matter how fast or far you run, it will always catch up to you and could have severe effects if you ignore it long enough. That's basically what causes "bi-polar" people. Their soul is trying to speak out with one thing they know in their heart, and their mind is trying to rationalize why not to follow such. Usually they grow up with teachings their parents, schools, relgions, etc. teach them to believe that they cannot follow it for whatever reason. The fastest and only true remedy to stop all of it is to quit listening to what the mind has to say about your path in life and listen to your heart. Your soul knows exactly where you need to go to accomplish those dreams that truly will make you happy in life. So set forth an intention of a path you want to take, like for instance if there is a person you truly desire to be with and be truly happy, and feel what you know about it. If you feel joy, then follow that path... if you feel anything negative like fear, then the path won't help and only make the road that much longer to get there. There are those who are actually willing to listen to advice and try it out, and there are those who will ridicule advice as such until they realize that doing it the "hard way" is taking alot longer than they would have liked. So it's all a question of how long you want to take to get to where you want to go in life...
 jenba75069

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Posted: 12/26/2008 9:37:14 AM
It would be nice if the kicks in my azz would have made a difference. The symptoms as described in the Medical Journal for Psychiatric Medicine are dead on for me. With our going into detail, realizing that my symptoms started as a young adult and not diagnosed until my late 40's. medication has curbed my cycling to manageable degree. The hard part is finding a partner that accepts this diagnoses at all. Most 'run for the hills' at the mention of the word bipolar. You would surely be surprised at how many bipolar people you have in your life right now, but with your attitude toward any mental illness they would stay away from you like the league Mental illness IS a disorder.
Just ask some of following who have also been diagnose with this disorder and maybe even email them for their response:
# Art Buchwald - writer, humorist
# Tim Burton - movie director
#****Cavett - writer, TV personality
# Rosemary Clooney - singer
# Francis Ford Coppola - movie director
# Ray Davies - musician
# Eric Douglas - actor
# Patty Duke - actress
# Carrie Fisher - actress
# Axl Rose - musician
# Gordon Sumner (Sting) - musician
# Lili Taylor - actress
# Jean-Claude Van Damme - actor
#Buzz Aldrin - US astronaut
 ladeensmallknees

Joined: 1/6/2009
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Posted: 1/18/2009 10:49:35 PM
yna6,
you are right when you say you DONT KNOW about this stuff. you dont even know what you are talking about!
psychological disorders occur because of a chemical imbalance in your brain. its not something you can control, its NOT mind over matter.... and those are the very distinguishing and frustrating characteristics of these mental disorders.
it is very ignorant to say "just forget the drugs" because the drugs are just regulating the imbalanced chemicals in your brain that cause the disorder. im not saying that meds are for everyone but i will say that they honestly saved my life. so next time, maybe you shouldnt criticize something that you dont even know anything about.
 ghostsjapan

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Posted: 1/22/2009 5:18:34 PM
I must say, you have made perhaps THE most INSPIRING UPLIFTING contribution to this forum that I have ever seen.

It is a pity that you will probably be single for the rest of your life because of your condition.
I feel the same way about my condition (although my psychotherapist disagrees).

You have a daughter as well.
I always wanted to find a partner and maybe have kids.
Always wondered why it wasn't happening, and other people's lives seemed better.
I wasn't diagnosed bipolar til I was 31.

Ah well, just take each day as it comes...
 ghostsjapan

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Posted: 1/22/2009 5:33:08 PM
My immediate previous forum message was to someone called "eccentric" but, for some reason, Linux didn't let me quote the post I was replying to.
 sunshine 09

Joined: 1/22/2009
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Posted: 1/26/2009 3:12:02 PM
Hello jenba75069
I just want to let you know that I met a wonderful man a year ago we are boyfriend and girlfriend . I love him very much he is so kind and thoughtful and lovable towards me. I didn't run away from him he told me right when I met him. I am glad that he was honest with me. Then he told me all about it. I am in the medical field I am a Personal Care Aide I am a caring person. I hope that you find a wonderful guy soon. but if you did by now I wish you well. If you didn't yet hang in there you will find him . He has bipolar type 2 which is a mood disorder . he gets depressed more in the winter time when there is no sun and the clouds are gray. He is taking meds. to keep him in control of his bipolar. I met him on this date site POF. Mark (good t cu). I wish you well now and forever!!!!!
Carolyn (sunshine 09) p.s. My boyfriend wrote you some info on the bottom of this page.





And here is a few more

Actors & Actresses

Ned Beatty
Maurice Bernard, soap opera
Jeremy Brett
Jim Carey
Lisa Nicole Carson
Rosemary Clooney, singer
Lindsay Crosby
Eric Douglas
Robert Downey Jr.
Patty Duke
Carrie Fisher
Connie Francis, singer and actress
Shecky Greene, comedian
Linda Hamilton
Moss Hart, actor, director, playright
Mariette Hartley
Margot Kidder
Vivien Leigh
Kevin McDonald, comedian
Kristy McNichols
Burgess Meredith, actor, director
Spike Milligan, actor, writer
Spike Mulligan, comic actor and writer
Nicola Pagett
Ben Stiller, actor, director, writer
David Strickland
Lili Taylor
Tracy Ullman
Jean-Claude Van Damme
Robin Williams
Jonathon Winters, comedian

Artists

Alvin Alley, dancer, choreogapher
Ludwig Von Beethoven
Tim Burton, artist, director
Francis Ford Coppola, director
George Fredrick Handel, composer
Bill Lichtenstein, producer
Joshua Logan, broadway director, producer
Vincent Van Gogh, painter
Gustav Mahier, composer
Francesco Scavullo, artist, photographer
Robert Schumann, composer
Don Simpson, movie producer
Norman Wexler, screenwriter, playwright

Entrepreneurs

Robert Campeau
Pierre Peladeau
Heinz C. Prechter
Ted Turner, media giant

Financiers

John Mulheren
Murray Pezim

Miscellaneous

Buzz Aldrin, astronaut
Clifford Beers, humanitarian
Garnet Coleman, legislator (Texas)
Larry Flynt, publisher and activist
Kit Gingrich, Newt's mom
Phil Graham, owner of Washington Post
Peter Gregg, team owner and manager, race car driver
Susan Panico (Susan Dime-Meenan), business executive
Sol Wachtier, former New York State Chief Judge

Musicians

Ludwig van Beethoven, composer
Alohe Jean Burke, musician, vocalist
Rosemary Clooney, singer
DMX Earl Simmons, rapper and actor
Ray Davies
Lenny Dee
Gaetano Donizetti, opera singer
Peter Gabriel
Jimi Hendrix
Kristen Hersh (Throwing Muses)
Phyllis Hyman
Jack Irons
Daniel Johnston
Otto Klemperer, musician, conductor
Oscar Levant, pianist, composer, television
Phil Ochs, musician, political activist, poet
John Ogden, composer, musician
Jaco Pastorius
Charley Pride
Mac Rebennack (Dr. John)
Jeannie C. Riley
Alys Robi, vocalist in Canada
Axl Rose
Nick Traina
Del Shannon
Phil Spector, musician and producer
Sting, Gordon Sumner, musician, composer
Tom Waits, musician, composer
Brian Wilson, musician, composer, arranger
Townes Van Zandt, musician, composer

Poets

John Berryman
C.E. Chaffin, writer, poet
Hart Crane
Randall Jarrell
Jane Kenyon
Robert Lowell
Sylvia Plath
Robert Schumann
Delmore Schwartz

Political

Robert Boorstin, special assistant to President Clinton
L. Brent Bozell, political scientist, attorney, writer
Bob Bullock, ex secretary of state, state comptroller and lieutenant governer
Winston Churchill
Kitty Dukasis, former First Lady of Massachusetts
Thomas Eagleton, lawyer, former U.S. Senator
Lynne Rivers, U.S. Congress
Theodore Roosevelt, President of the United States

Scholars

John Strugnell, biblical scholar

Scientists

Karl Paul Link, chemist
Dimitri Mihalas

Sports

Shelley Beattie, bodybuilding, sailing
John Daly, golf
Muffin Spencer-Devlin, pro golf
Ilie Nastase, tennis
Jimmy Piersail, baseball player, Boston Red Sox, sports announcer
Barret Robbins, football
Wyatt Sexton, football
Alonzo Spellman, football
Darryl Strawberry, baseball
Dimitrius Underwood, football
Luther Wright, basketball
Bert Yancey, athlete

TV & Radio

Dick Cavett
Jay Marvin, radio, writer
Jane Pauley

Writers

Louis Althusser, philosopher, writer
Honors de Balzac
Art Buchwald, writer, humorist
Neal Cassady
Patricia Cornwell
Margot Early
Kaye Gibbons
Johann Goethe
Graham Greene
Abbie Hoffman, writer, political activist
Kay Redfield Jamison, writer, psychologist
Peter Nolan Lawrence
Frances Lear, writer, editor, women's rights activist
Rika Lesser, writer, translator
Kate Millet
Robert Munsch
Margo Orum
Edgar Allen Poe
Theodore Roethke
Lori Schiller, writer, educator
Frances Sherwood
Scott Simmie, writer, journalist
August Strindberg
Mark Twain
Joseph Vasquez, writer, movie director
Mark Vonnegut, doctor, writer
Sol Wachtler, writer, judge
Mary Jane Ward
Virginia Woolf

Hello, I am Mark (good 2 cu) ....

I just wanted to say that there are a great deal of scare tactics out there, as well as misinformation, exaggeration. Some poor behavior that bipolar is related to can be directly attributed to upbringing, personality, and moral traits....the same that can related to so-called "normal" people. I wouldn't go into the bipolar illness until a few dates, let someone get to know you before you tell them. There are some forums out there, but use caution. Many people will give you bad advice or just bring you down.
Good luck in all you do...write if you like, our backgrounds are very similar.

Mark
 Yellowrose177

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Posted: 1/27/2009 6:08:55 PM
I am Bi-Polar, Manic Depressive. Your answer is the most intelligent and sincerest on here. Thank God there are people like you!!!
 chelle37

Joined: 1/24/2009
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Posted: 1/27/2009 6:43:08 PM
Your message stated above is pretty harsh! I lost my father 1 1/2 ago due to this illness. He had it for over 30 years and he did kill himself. You should be a little more cautious with your choice of words. Just saying
 rls84

Joined: 9/8/2008
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Posted: 1/28/2009 12:55:07 PM
I have had bi-polar illness for over 20yrs if you take your medication and don,t medicate your own self with alcohol or drugs ,chances are you have a good chance of getting better and cope with life,s issues in a more positive way . Thier will be times of depression but not as bad as if your bring it on your self ,,so is their hope ,yes, yes, ,I still have trouble in relationships ,,but i hang on to hope,hope, hope, people who believe that bi-polar illness is not devestating and real ,,, are very mentally ill and self absorbed with thier own ignorance. divine 5 :modhammer:
 BlossomingSoul

Joined: 1/25/2009
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Posted: 1/28/2009 11:44:14 PM
I also have Bipolar and 5 years college in psy/clinical psy, so I think I have an unique perspective.

There are two types of Bipolar. I -severe and II- basically mild. So the people that say they can do it without meds, probably can. They probably have Bipolar II. As for us with Bipolar I, it can be a death sentence, if we don't take meds. Not to mention the reckess and inconsequential choices in mania destroying our and our family's lives.

As for the ones that say tough love and a kick in the right direction will get a biploar person well. I just shake my head. It's like telling someone with cancer to "get over it".

I tried to take the natural approach in 2006. I stopped meds and counseling. I just wanted to be me, naturally. Good in theory, but not so good in reality. I did crazy things for about 7 months or so, lost 75 lbs, and became more and more disfunctional, until I was hospitalized against my will. A nightmare experience!

Today, well, I have gained all the weight back, being on the meds again. I, now, take my meds religiously and have no mood swings or crazy thoughts. I function well now. The happiest I have ever been (without being manic ).
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