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 NateC

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Msg: 26
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Posted: 5/13/2007 4:33:50 PM
"Even Edward R. Murrow, one of the more objective journalists in American history, would disagree that the media should be totally objective. Sometimes the media has an obligation to call into question social policy, especially when it's not just."

I too concur, but I think when we say unbiased, we mean not trying to push an agenda with smidgens of propaganda.

I don't think the media is 60% liberal. The most fair news source I can ever recall is actually Reuters, and they pulled an article correcting a statement that Iran's president Ahmedinejad (sp?) had made because CNN and Fox had deliberately picked it apart for a couple of very controversial snippets.

When Reuters posted the whole quote, (it was regarding Israel's government using hte Holocaust as an excuse to wage war on its neighbours), anyone who read it would go "christ!" because the snippets basically painted him as an anti-semite, where as the whole quote was extremely reasonable.

Israel and Palestine is kind of a passion for me (being half-Jewish and sick of wealthy relatives whining about how we're so hard-done by), and if you want to see how vile media self-censorship to push an agenda is, it's something to watch. Same with the current Bush government, as well as the former Blair government as well.

That is definitely not "liberal", nor is it "conservative". See, when I think of the term conservative, it means moderate. Liberal doesn't mean extreme-left (because that's socialist, actually), it means someone that cares more about freedoms and less about the problems that having too many freedoms cause.

The far right, that's fascist, plain and simple. And doctoring the news to cover up horrendous events (like NBC wiping it's article about the mid-90's Intifedeh in which the Israeli army opened fire on civilians, killing 300; Darfur is another example, and so is the U.N.s's lip-service towards the genocide in Rwanda 13, 14 years ago) definitely falls into that category.
 jimi77

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Can you prove the media is liberally biased?
Posted: 5/13/2007 6:23:58 PM
personaly i like fox news, hannity & O'Reilly. I think there fair for the most part.sometimes there over board a bit.

After years of wacthing peter jennings and the like i felt they where bias long before fox came along.. it seems if its a christian there always painted out to be a kook, a tradtional value it painted to be outdated, Laughable, and every negative point real or imagined is highlighted. and if it was a liberal issue they always seem to show it in a possitive light. personaly i just want them to report the news not promote anything. and that seems to be the agenda now days on both sides.

however why not use Rush/Sean/O'Reilly comments if there is truth in the statment then it's truth. regardless of who states it..there is one guy on CNN i like also but i don't know his name.. but i also think he is fair and honest.

If ted turner is a anti christian and extreem liberal don't you think his company will reflect that to help promote his views?

personaly i don't trust most media 100%.. it seem to me more like lawyers trying to win a case at any means more then news.
 sd_matt

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Posted: 5/16/2007 5:20:21 PM
Well I saw an example of bias the other day. Yahoo news posted an article about the net worth of a republican candidate. I cant remember his name. Why didnt the news discuss the net worth of all the candidates for president?
 Montreal_Guy

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Posted: 5/19/2007 7:22:42 PM
Just look at the references on that "liberal" channel CNN with the recent captured troops in Iraq.

In all the reports I saw (when my computer was down, I was watching TV far more than usual) used a very interesting word for those troops.

"Kidnapped..."

In a war zone, that's a rather strange term to use when your troops are captured by insurgents.

You want a liberal media, tune in to stations outside the USA.
 sd_matt

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Posted: 5/22/2007 1:14:30 PM
Yeah thats true Montreal.

I wonder if they would have used the term "captured" in ww2?

Well here in the U.S. it depend on what station you watch. Although you wont hear any broadcast stations calling the insurgency the " resistance". I think on AM radio I heard it a few times.

For me its usually little things. On the broadcast news, I think it was CNN or NBC, there was about three seconds of footage of a policeman in riot gear taking a swing at the shins of a Mexican demonstrator. The demonstrator was standing and moving backwards. It didnt show what happened before that. Youll never know why the officer swung at him. Who was right or wrong I dont know. But from the footage it looks like the officer is the bad guy.

The bias seems to change from issue to issue. I think when it comes to race a liberal bias is true. Maybe one exception is the Duke case.
 sd_matt

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Posted: 5/22/2007 1:23:42 PM
The guy I like best is Glen Beck

Not for his conservative views but because he spouted out a couple of web sites. One is Factcheck.org and the other is a U.S. government site that gives the cut and dry of legislation.

Ive viewed alot of "watchdog" sites and I think Factcheck is the real deal. Dont take my word for it. See it for yourself. It can be a bit laborious to read but that only relfects how thorough the writers are. I always tell people to keyword search their interests, experiences and expertise and then see how the site stacks up.
 lovableladywanted

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Posted: 5/24/2007 3:09:21 PM
Lets be real here . If you are an up and coming journalist of WHATEVER political persuasion, you would want a big scoop even if it screws your side, left or right. Like in the OJ case everyone criticized the late Johnny Cochrane , but any level atty would love to take the OJ case even to be his atty. Its similar in journalism. I lean left but if I can get a scoop that will screw the left and in the process set me up for life in fame and finance I would go for it .
 Augiedougie

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Posted: 5/24/2007 7:50:24 PM

You want a liberal media, tune in to stations outside the USA.


I have to agree with that. I find that the American news reporting is very conservative compared to our Canadian reporting. Many of the Canadian media outlets make most of the so-called 'liberal' media in the US look very right wing.
This reflects the general way that each society looks at the world. Canadians are generally more liberal minded than Americans in many respects. Alot of that is because we do not have the right-wing Christian power structure here as you do in the US.

I know that we are not generally exposed to European or other reporting of events, but it would be interesting to how they report events from around the world and compare it to our own.
Are there any from Europe who can comment on the reporting of events from there?
 thegreatrockyhill

Joined: 12/26/2005
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Can you prove the media is liberally biased?
Posted: 5/24/2007 7:55:40 PM
The mainstream corporate media has a bias alright, a right-leaning bias. If our corporate mainstream media were truly liberal, you wouldn't see them wasting air time on Paris Hilton or American Idol.
 sd_matt

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Posted: 5/25/2007 6:42:10 PM
Heres one

Just before I read this blog I read a headline on Yahoo news; "Controversial creationism museum set to open in Ky".

If freedom of speech permits someone to spend $27 million to express his views then why is it controversal?

Watch the video. Either ABC is digging for news or it shows some subtle anti religion undertones.

This would only be controversal to a secular progressive who is anti religion.

What a student believes should not be of any concern to a teacher. Just understand the material, get the grade and make your own choice. At least I hope thats how America feels about it.
 HalftimeDad

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Posted: 5/25/2007 7:11:32 PM
It's controversial for the same reason a Holocaust Denial museum would be controversial. Or an "HIV does not cause AIDS" museum would be. Because it's bullshit. Nothing to do with secularism or faith; fact vs crap.
 Montreal_Guy

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Posted: 5/25/2007 7:16:02 PM
Here's one example of what I mean by the liberal media as a myth.

It's quite simple to demonstrate, and we can just look at the President's own words in his last news conference, and the total lack of any journalist actually questioning some logic that defies ....logic.

Here's quote # 1 , over to you Mr President :


THE PRESIDENT: We are there at the invitation of the Iraqi government. This is a sovereign nation. Twelve million people went to the polls to approve a constitution. It's their government's choice. If they were to say, leave, we would leave.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070524.html


Pretty clear, right ? They say leave....the USA packs it's bags.

Except....several minutes later.....in that same press conference :


THE PRESIDENT: I would say that five years ago, like I said, we're going to pursue him, and we are pursuing him. And he's hiding. He is in a remote region of the world. If I knew precisely where he is, we would take the appropriate action to bring him to justice. He is attempting to establish a base of operations in Iraq. He hasn't established a base in operations. My points yesterday were, here was his intentions, but thankfully, of the three people I named, all of them no longer are a part of his operation.

My point is, is that -- I was making the point, Jim, as I'm sure you recognized, that if we leave, they follow us.

- Ibid


So, in essence, he is saying (at the same time, in the same press conference) we will leave if they ask us to - and then that means Al Qaeda then "follows us" .

So, according to the President, the Iraqi government is now the key decision maker in US security - if both of those statements are true.

The best part ?

That "liberal media" didn't say a word about the President's conflicting statements.
 Manifest_Destiny

Joined: 5/10/2007
Msg: 38
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Posted: 5/25/2007 9:05:51 PM
I'm going to journalism school so I wont ever allow a bias to either the left or the right appear in my work. I hope those who have established themselves in the media have not forgotten their training.
 sd_matt

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Posted: 5/25/2007 9:46:10 PM
Halftimedad
If people wish to believe crap thats their right.

What is your concept of education? Just the facts? Or how about understanding of the world around you? If you suscripe to the concept of understanding then we should make sure our children understand science and the "crap" thats out there. The farther left or right you go the more Ive seen a lack of willingness to promote an attitude of understanding.

Manifest
Since youre in school for just this thing can you give some textbook examples of media distortion?
 sd_matt

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Posted: 5/25/2007 10:06:02 PM
Another example

The media headlines report more American G.I. deaths than insurgent deaths. Talk to some Joes who have been there on the front line . Even if you downplay their claims big time then we still kill more of the insurgents than they kill G.I.s.
Does that mean that we are meeting our objectives in Iraq? Not necessarily.

If the media is a supply and demand system then many people want to believe that they are kicking the armys butt, tactically speaking.
 Montreal_Guy

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Posted: 6/23/2007 10:47:06 PM
Here's a really interesting one.

Let's say an American ship was attacked by a country, and that country had set out to destroy that ship quite deliberately. Let's say that ship was attacked with napalm, and involved the machine gunning of stretchers, and life rafts.

Let's say that attack was quite obviously an attempt to sink that ship, and kill every single sailor aboard it.

Pretty devastating stuff , right ?

Imagine any country you want, and the outrage it would unleash. Even the liberal media would go NUTS , right ?

Well, it happened....and Katie Couric and the rest of the talking heads haven't said a word. .

Here's the official commission that investigated it :


The commission consists of:

* A former ambassador to one of the US's most important allies

* A US Navy rear admiral and former head of the Navy's legal division

* A Marine general, America's highest ranking recipient of the Congressional Medal of Honor and the former Assistant Commandant of Marines

* A US Navy four-star admiral, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (the highest military position in the country), former Chief of Naval Operations, a World War II hero, and the only Naval admiral to have commanded both the Pacific and the Atlantic fleets

The panel is moderated by a former ambassador who served as Chief of Mission in Iraq and Deputy Director of Ronald Reagan's White House Task Force on Terrorism.

http://www.counterpunch.org/weir06232007.html


Their findings ?


The commission announces explosive findings:

* That the attack, by a US ally, was a "deliberate attempt to destroy an American ship and kill her entire crew"

* That the ally committed "acts of murder against American servicemen and an act of war against the United States"

* That the attack involved the machine-gunning of stretcher-bearers and life rafts

* That "the White House deliberately prevented the U.S. Navy from coming to the defense of the [ship] never before in American naval history has a rescue mission been cancelled when an American ship was under attack"

* That surviving crewmembers were later threatened with "court-martial, imprisonment or worse" if they talked to anyone about what had happened to them; and were "abandoned by their own government"

* That due to the influence of the ally's "powerful supporters in the United States, the White House deliberately covered up the facts of this attack from the American people"

* That due to continuing pressure by this lobby, this attack remains "the only serious naval incident that has never been thoroughly investigated by Congress"

* That "there has been an official cover-up without precedent in American naval history"

* That "the truth about Israel's attack and subsequent White House cover-up continues to be officially concealed from the American people to the present day and is a national disgrace"

* That "a danger to the national security exists whenever our elected officials are willing to subordinate American interests to those of any foreign nation" and that this policy "endangers the safety of Americans and the security of the United States"

- Ibid


The reaction from that "liberal media" ?


A search of hundreds of the largest news media in this country indexed by Lexis-Nexis does not turn up a single US newspaper that mentioned this commission, a single US television station, a single US radio station, a single US magazine. While it was mentioned in an Associated Press report focusing on one of the commission's most dramatic revelations, Lexis reveals only a sprinkling of news media printed information from this AP report, and those few that that did failed to mention this commission itself, its extremely star-studded composition, and the entirety of its findings.

Apart from a few members of the alternative press and the excellent Washington Report on Middle East Affairs (not indexed by Lexis), this commission might as well not have existed as far as most of the US media is concerned --and therefore, the American public.

While the results of its investigation can be read in the Congressional Record, "Findings of the Independent Commission of Inquiry into the Israeli Attack on the USS Liberty, the Recall of Military Rescue Support Aircraft while the Ship was Under Attack, and the Subsequent Cover-up by the United States Government," only an infinitesimal fraction of the American citizenry has any idea that a commission made up of some of the nation's most respected military leaders stated publicly and forcefully --on Capitol Hill --that a US president chose to sacrifice US interests and US servicemen (specifically, the 25 of the 34 dead who were killed after US rescue missions were recalled) to Israeli interests, and then ordered a cover-up of his actions.

Almost no one knows that the US's purported "special" ally tried to sink a Navy ship, and then quibbled for years over what it would pay in compensation to the widows, children, and parents of those it killed and to the United States for the ship it destroyed. (Thirteen years later it grudgingly paid $6 million for a ship valued at $40 million.)

The one piece of this story that did make it into the mainstream media has also remained astonishingly buried: testimony that provided the final nail in the coffin of claims that the Israeli attack --which lasted two hours; consisted of rockets, napalm, and torpedoes; and killed 34 Americans total and injured over 170 --was somehow accidental.


- Ibid


If the media was , as some claim, an open market with liberals running it - this story would have been a firestorm.

Had it been any other country than Israel , it probably would have resulted in a military attack of great intensity.

To all those who claim it's a liberal media, the defense rests.
 davidsauvignon

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Posted: 1/15/2009 8:33:30 PM
To realize just how biased the American media is, compare what they present to what is being presented in overseas news shows and papers. SO much more information that somehow doesn't make it into the press here.

Right, okay, so here would be one example. It was found in BBC media reports in the past couple of days, old reports of American media coverage and opinions on Bush's 2004 inaugeration. How on Earth can 'he' justify spending $40 million on 'his' inaugeration?! We're in the middle of a war! He should cancel all of the gala events, balls, etc.! We can't afford it! It's wrong for that much money to be spent on 'his' event.

Fast forward four years. Can anyone show where the American media has criticized spending $160 million for Obama's shin dig? While 'we're' still in a war? The stock market is tanking? The banking and lending institutions are teetering? 401K's and retirement accounts/benefits have all but vanished? The fact we are in fact, in a recession ?






~ds~
 maxxoccupancy

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Posted: 1/16/2009 12:33:03 AM
Faux News is crap. Having said that, there was a study in 1992 of news storied covering Bush, Sr. and then candidate Clinton. Although the Bush's have actually been long time proponents of activist government and globalism, they have campaigned conservative since the 1970's. Nearly 90% of Bush stories were negative, while slightly less than half of the stories on Clinton were. In that same year, 85% of journalists polled voted for Clinton, 13% voted for Bush, and only 2% voted for Ross Perot.

If my personal experience is considered valid by the OP, I have seen so many Marxists and authoritarians in liberal arts programs (including many courses I've taken), and, seeing the resulting bias amongst graduates, I've had to conclude that this is unquestionably the result of some organized effort to promote this.

When one compares economies organized through free market competition vs. rigidly controlled state run monopolies and Soviet style centralization, almost anyone immediately concludes that workers and consumers are MUCH better protected by the competition of the free marketplace. Nevertheless, I keep hearing liberals screaming at me about the "NEEEEED" for socialistic policies. Journalists seem to be the most ardent about this. Students are repeatedly told that this is about open mindedness, education, and enlightenment. Try questioning these "ideas" or even suggest that a society based on Constitutionally limited government, silver/gold backed currency, and unregulated markets is even an option to consider. Expecting the "poor" to take responsibility for themselves? Out of the question.
 pirateheaven

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Posted: 11/5/2009 12:44:52 PM
The Media has a heavily liberal bias. Sources include Gallup, the NY Times, University of Connecticut, Pew Research Center, Harris Poll, American Society of Newspaper Editors, LA Times, Indiana University, US News and World Report, Chicago Tribune, Roper

http://www.mrc.org/biasbasics/pdf/BiasBasics.pdf

See Page 31-32 Where journalists admit they are liberally baised!!
 skoochie

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Posted: 11/5/2009 1:18:21 PM
Not all media is liberally bias. It's just a cop out for the right wing media to use when the media is reporting the facts of a story which looks bad for a Republican. It's a way for the right wingers to dismiss a story by simply saying a liberal media is bringing them the story. Stories the right wingers don't want told. Stories you wouldn't find in their media if it weren't for the "liberal" media exposing it. Calling it a liberal media is the Right's way of discrediting a story regardless of how true it is. And when this thread was started, there were lot's of stories being discredited based solely on the premise that CNN/Ny Times/ Washington Post broke the story. It's the very definition of an ad hominem attack.
 Strings6

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Posted: 11/5/2009 2:28:06 PM
Op....you are biased and the first sentence of your post shows it
 78outdoorsguy

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Posted: 11/5/2009 3:00:51 PM
Anyone asking for 'proof' that the mainstream media is liberally biased should also supply proof that Fox news is right wing and a wing of the republican party.

In the end the cable news networks air 'opinion' shows. And they all have the leanings.
Hannity-Right
Olberman-Left.

If you don't like it then don't watch.
Can you prove the media is liberally biased?
Posted: 11/5/2009 3:02:19 PM
Every day on Faux "news" and the endless cattle call of right-wing loonies polluting the radio airwaves, all you hear is "the liberal media". That's there people's excuse for everything! My challenge to everyone out there in POF land is this: Give me an Honest-To-God example of how the media has a liberal bias. Some rules:

The way I see it, is for some reason there are people that think there is only, left and right.

They seem to forget there is allot in the middle.

They assume if it does not lean to the right then it must be left and forget that there is something called being objective and more than not, being objective does not jive with the right.
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Posted: 11/5/2009 3:11:56 PM

The media itself isn't biased one way or the other. We all watch the news and form our own opinions. Those who claim "liberal bias" or "conservative bias" are just upset that a story dosen't jibe with their personal philosiphies. Fox decided they wanted to aim for a more conservative demographic, as MSNBC went the other way and catered to the liberal demographic. Network news isn't biased one way or the other. They have so much to report in a very short amount of time, they couldn't work bias in even if they wanted to.


Don't be so sure. Dan Rather, an openly liberal mainstream news reporter, flat out refused to cover the Gary Condit / Chandra Levy story until he was essentially forced to by CBS after every other network had made it too big to ignore anymore.

That's not to say that all media is biased, but it certainly says that it's not always interested in objectively reporting the biggest things going on.
 Trueblooo

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Posted: 11/5/2009 3:32:11 PM
I think that there is obvious and clear bias.
Coincidentally I saw a John Stossel clip on youtube. He was on O'Reilly. It was about how when he was at ABC the libs loved him and he got 17 Emmys. Then he moved to Fox and now he's the devil incarnate and the libs hate him. He was always the same guy as far as I can see, always had a consistent POV.
Talk radio is obviously to the right, while much of TV "news" is to the left.
I tend not to believe a great deal of what any of them say, except the BBC and PBS, and even then there's some kind of slant no doubt.

So I dig into blogs and then I'm told that my opinions indicate that I should be donning a tinfoil hat. Funny. The people who trust the MSM have the audacity to tell me that I should don a tinfoil hat. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so stupid. Most people are proud of being dumb.

Oh, I do remember a solid university study that concluded that the majority of writers and journalists are quite liberal, and that this fact has an obvious effect on what we are told.
I tend to believe that people involved in the media are definitely liberal leaning, not counting the obvious exceptions that I mentioned earlier.
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