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A pitbull toting a machine gun?
anyhow... I think as a generality we are a Friendly nation... based on visiting many of the provinces in this country I can say we are as friendly as everyone else.
a few bad apples...an unfriendly Customs officials make the headlines...but on the Friendly Radar I think we British Columbians are on par with the rest of the country...yes even those non-anglo speakers in the East...lol | |
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Posted: 3/13/2009 9:48:38 PM | Yeah, I'm with the Wildthing Rose on this one; we're as friendly as an other province, and if these other people don't agree, they can go back to where ever it is they came from.
Maybe I'm just one of those bad apples from the Okanagan though ! | |
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Posted: 3/14/2009 12:13:47 AM |
and if these other people don't agree, they can go back to where ever it is they came from.
I've talked to a few people lately who are going to do just that because they've found BC to be far less friendly than other places they've lived. As the OP or one of the earliest posters said, BCers will be superficially friendly, but they aren't warm and they aren't into becoming closer than superficial friends.
Other long-term BC residents I've spoken to agree but feel they're stuck here because of home, family, etc. | |
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Posted: 3/15/2009 11:53:32 PM | YES YES YES
I had to relocate to Toronto to help my aging mom last year.
Its awful here. Snooty, arrogant tail gaters!!!!
I cant wait to go back.
" BCers will be superficially friendly, but they aren't warm and they aren't into becoming closer than superficial friends."
Yah, thats kinda true. But people in Toronto have NO time for anything but making money. I'll take the emotionally unavailable BCer anyday over the physically unavailable Torontonian!
And, for dating, BC wins by a long shot. Ontario women....well, I want to be kind so I will hold my tongue and let you infer what I might say next...
Toronto is hell.
"Maybe I'm just one of those bad apples from the Okanagan though !"
Okanangan only has good apples! And peaches... | |
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Posted: 3/16/2009 1:49:05 AM | | Was born and raised in Alberta, lived in Saskatchewan and now reside here. I agree with other posters who suggest that BC people---especially those in the lower mainland---are friendly in a superficial manner. What strikes me about denizens of Vancouver, moreover, is their lack of candor. Know a couple out in Maple Ridge who moved here from Alberta, and they also commented that Vancouverites seem less genuine than others. | |
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Posted: 3/16/2009 1:57:09 AM | I grew up in Vancouver and now I cant wait to get out of here if there were more jobs in the interior I'd been gone in a blink of an eye .
I'm not sure people here are any friendlier here than anywhere else, In my old neighbor hood you were lucky to get to know the people next door .
Seems to me the more people that move here the uglier people get, but then just commuting in this town is enough to make anyone miserable. | |
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Posted: 6/10/2012 8:01:36 PM | PMJI , but IMHO the fact that everyone seems to be making generalizations comparing groups of 100's of 1000's or more people to other 100's of 1000's of people shows me that we are not all on the same level here.
When it comes down to it, every province has something significantly wrong with it.
In BC, this all has more to do with the people than the weather in the province.
in alberta through quebec / nb / ns / pei, it's the cold weather.
and again in newfoundland it's the people , and the weather that suck.
have you ever seen a newfie try to count to 11 without removing his boots? No. | |
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Posted: 6/11/2012 9:55:12 AM | Most people are a mirror of your own emotions. You show a smile and a smile will be returned to you. You show a sad face, ditto.
I have lived in 5 provinces, in 7 major urban areas and have come across happy friendly people in all of them and, I am sorry to say so, some not very friendly.
If you happen to carry a clip board, you find a much better reply. Do not know why...but I have a clip always close by at all times. LOL
Doc Sage | |
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Posted: 6/11/2012 9:59:26 AM | Most people are a mirror of your own emotions. You show a smile and a smile will be returned to you. You show a sad face, ditto.
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I fully agree and yet some... no matter what have the most god awful scowl on thier faces.
Need more fibre in their diet, maybe? lol | |
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Posted: 6/11/2012 10:02:31 AM | Nope!
I am a home-grown, born and raised BC’er. However, after spending 10 years in Alberta and then coming back to the Okanagan Valley (for the past 5 years) I realize how unapproachable BC people are. OMG, these people are so superficial! They keep you at a distance and make it impossible to form friendships. In general, customer service in Vernon is downright rude. And Kelowna people are very cliquey. And that’s not just my opinion, but everyone in this area seems to agree with this observation.
The locals make you feel that unless you are fourth generation “valley people” or you have come from "the coast" you will always be considered an outsider.
I have found dating and singles events, in this area, to be challenging to say the least. The men my age seem to be unemployed or tightwads. I am more than willing to pay my own way or accept your generosity, makes no never minds to me. But when your couponing on a first meet – like really! I went to two different singles events within two weekends of each other. One was in Kelowna and the other was in Calgary. I found the people (men n women) at the Kelowna event to be so unapproachable and voicing their desire to be home before 11pm. Where as, the Calgary event was so much fun (and it was a significantly smaller event too) the people mingled and danced all night long and most people stayed until closing time.
As soon as the market comes up here and I can sell out – I am so outta here! | |
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Posted: 6/12/2012 6:54:33 AM | When I first got here in '89, I thought I landed in Mayberry. Strangers saying hello on the street freaked me out. It's become a lot more like Toronto it would seem to me.
When my dog went missing a few months back I frantically raced about the streets asking people if they'd seen her. So many people with their ear buds just walking on by trying really hard not to give any indication that I existed - it was so surreal. I finally shouted at one woman, "Excuse me but are you too terrified to speak to me"? She thought I wanted something from her.
I got my dog back.
Friendly is not a word I would have used to describe the folks out here nowadays.
(After reading my comment I thought I should qualify it. There are still some of the friendliest people I've ever known around here - it just takes a little more work to find out where they are hiding) | |
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Posted: 6/12/2012 5:08:54 PM | It's become a lot more like Toronto it would seem to me.
Yep, I have to agree. I came out in 86, and it wasn't for the shiat show that is present in today's world. One more year of schooling for my kid,and I'm aiming to phuck off as far away from Vancouver as I can. Still gonna stay in the province, just with people that understand the value of what they GOT, not what they WANT. There are plenty of "friendly" people here in this province,just not here in the lowerrainland,other than like the poster before me stated, the ones that are in "hiding". | |
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Posted: 6/12/2012 10:20:49 PM | | Moving here from Florida I have to agree with the last few posts. Had some of the same experiences. The statistics say most of Canada is single and after being here for months I can understand why. Reading profiles I've never seen more "criteria" than I have in the BC POF profiles. Thankfully not all are that way... | |
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Posted: 6/12/2012 10:44:02 PM | What ever you do stay away from Kamloops.
I moved up here a few years ago. I lived in Surrey for 25 years, had my shop robbed twice and 3 auto break -ins..
Here in Kumloopy ville AKA WRONG TURN 5, The Venture never ends, I have been robbed 375 times, I have seen more crime, more perversion and more open lack of the most basic moral fiber than I had ever seen in Surrey.
I have also seen that this town more broken families due to drugs and alcohol abuse.
According to research, 70% of all sociopaths were raised in homes without fathers.
BC is full of this stuff..
Profile of the Sociopath
This website summarizes some of the common features of descriptions of the behavior of sociopaths.
Glibness and Superficial Charm
Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."
Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
Incapacity for Love
Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
Other Related Qualities:
Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
Authoritarian
Secretive
Paranoid
Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
Conventional appearance
Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
Incapable of real human attachment to another
Unable to feel remorse or guilt
Extreme narcissism and grandiose
May state readily that their goal is to rule the world
(The above traits are based on the psychopathy checklists of H. Cleckley and R. Hare.)[quote/] | |
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Posted: 6/12/2012 10:58:42 PM | ^^^So did you just diagnose all of British Columbia over the internet or just all of the people in Kamloops?
I kind of get your point though...I think. | |
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Posted: 6/12/2012 10:59:44 PM | I am not always a very sociable person but I am a very warm and loving person. So I am not always seen as "friendly" but those who are closest to me know how caring and giving I am. I have set goals of being a good man, to be better tomorrow than I was yesterday and to review myself and grow from there.
Some of the best people I have known in BC are or in some cases were, the most unfriendly and seemingly miserable SOB's around. I love those people dearly! Those are the ones that would give the shirt off their backs to help, they would jump in front of a bullet to save another human or animal for that matter. I am one of those, but I am not that miserable. I am just not sociable per say...
I maybe a little more on the grumpy side after what I've been through with my EX.
But I will get over and I don't take it out on other people!!! | |
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Posted: 6/12/2012 11:04:23 PM | | LMAO... Ya pretty much just Kamloops... Everybody I know thats lived here a lifetime can't see it as anything other than normal, but most of those I know from the lower mainland, including myself, who have been here for over 3 years but under 7, notice a huge difference in social behavior. | |
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Posted: 6/13/2012 10:01:05 AM | I don't believe that we can judge how friendly someone is by the province they live in, but the ones who are busy trying to be successful or are commuting, or are trying to start out in a new country...well, they may be more focused on themselves to be considered friendly. Some of these people are looking for "success" therefor veer towards the cities and the opportunities there. They don't have the time to spare to be friendly or they are afraid to be.
I'd say the further from the city, the friendlier the people, unless the city folk are already content. | |
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Posted: 6/13/2012 12:06:34 PM | ^^^Actually, I think the exact opposite is more to the point.
All of the recent immigrants I meet seem really happy to be here and are some of the most optimistic and upbeat people around.
When I think of snotty and hateful faces on the street, the pictures in my mind are always white. | |
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Posted: 6/13/2012 12:42:28 PM | AddHomonyn:
I agree to your post about a lot of immigrants being upbeat and optimistic, but that doesn't necessarily make them more friendly towards others, more approachable maybe...
The snotty and hateful are everywhere and come in every colour.
I didn't like Van, too career/status/cash orientated. When people are busy with these types of things, they can often lose the kinship in favour of beating the competition. Not all, some. | |
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Posted: 6/13/2012 3:30:37 PM |
I didn't like Van, too career/status/cash orientated.
I agree. And it's quite bizarre how that, once the "rat race" started(about 86) it seems everybody just keeps trying to go faster and faster, to keep up with the "pace" that has been generated. Don't know where the hell they are all going to,but, honestly, it's getting quite scarey down here. A lot of people don't "see it" cause,well, they are "caught up" in the rat race. | |
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Posted: 6/13/2012 9:59:42 PM | I didn't like Van, too career/status/cash orientated. When people are busy with these types of things, they can often lose the kinship in favour of beating the competition
Perhaps I should have been more clear. I wouldn't know much about the rest of my city because I choose to live in East Van. Commercial Drive, to be precise. My neighbourhood is like a small town stuck in the middle of a major city. I could go for months without ever leaving this street. Doctors and government are the only things that force me to visit other parts of the city...well and dating too, theoretically. This area is made up of funky artists, crazy folks, political activists, druggies and all sorts of other strange and wonderful people. It is very cosmopolitan with a rich diversity of ethnic foods and cultural dress and activities. It's a vibrant and energetic place with a very strong sense of community. It's the coolest place on this earth that I've found so far which is also why I came back here to live after my marriage fell apart.
Having said all that, this place is changing. I like to think I can help it maintain some of it's authenticity by supporting venues like the Rio Theatre of the W.I.S.E. Club, for example. | |
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Posted: 6/13/2012 11:37:44 PM | East Van/Commercial does have character and characters, I gravitate towards it when over there.
What is changing? Are people losing patience? Tolerance? Heart? Is greed or poverty reeking havoc? Have people stopped looking out for one another? I hope not, community is important.
Glad you are doing your part to maintain the authenticity.
Maybe a community pride afternoon picnic is over due? | |
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Posted: 6/17/2012 8:52:27 AM | I have lived in BC for 7yrs now, moved from Ontario to escape the snow.
I still can't get to five when I count the number of GOOD friends I can say I have.
It's soooo difficult to break through some of these cliques if a) you didn't go to school here, b) don't make six figures a year c) are a visible minority with a smaller community
Sometimes I really need to remind myself that I still live in Canada.
Of course, Ontario and more specifically Toronto has their fair share of issues but meeting people to hang out with isn't one of them.
I am super friendly, randomly talk to strangers, hold doors, lift strollers down stairs etc.
Initially I can see the tension when I make first contact (uh oh, is my purse and belongings safe? Will this man rape me in broad daylight right in the middle of Cambie?
I'm not making this a racial thing either because I don't think it is that most of the time.
What I do find interesting is the seniors actually engage me in conversation. Where are you from? I love your tattoos...great weather today huh?
Men/women my age who I would assume would be more open to different cultures and perspectives because Canada has certainly become more multi-cultural in the past two decades shun me; shift their gaze as if we didn't just make eye contact and I gave a gracious smile.
Older women always assume I clean up in this city. Sadly, quite the opposite.
Men aren't much better. Unless it's the boyfriend of a friend of a girl I'm dating, hanging out with another guy just isn't happening.
I wen to Trout Lake community centre to play basketball at the public court two days ago by myself, sick of waiting around for the phone to ring.
About 15mins in a much older black man walks up and asks if he can get some shots up.
We shoot around for an hour with no conversation. After the workout he tells me his story:
Moved out here in the 70's from Montreal, loved it at first.
Folks were friendly and he had some of his best years.
In the mid/late 80's, things started to change.
Now he hates it. Has no solid friends/connections after all those years.
I saw myself in 15 years. SCARY. Thinking about moving back to Toronto every other hour since. That really shook me. | |
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Posted: 6/17/2012 10:39:22 AM | | East coast>so friendly..West coast we talk..I think we are a big mix of ppl now so on the island ..you meet ppl from elsewhere ...you just never know | |
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