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Posted: 4/10/2007 1:40:44 PM | Enough is enough !
You NOW know the rules.
Every business or person has their rules and regulations.
Abide by them or go FLY A KITE !!!
Oh that's a REAL mature outlook on things!
I'd expect better than that from a grown 49 yr old woman. Then again it always seems to be the elderly that are "set in their ways" and usually the conformists. Unable or unwilling to "step outside the box" and ever view things from different perspectives. 
Astrea, do you think ALL laws were the way they are now?
Meaning they were written ONCE and never changed since then?
Think about it. Yes, laws are written to bring about certain standards in which we are to live by/conduct ourselves. A means of creating & maintaining ORDER throughout society. HOWEVER, not all laws were practical when applied. Some only worked in theory and therefore many of them had to be analysed and re-written for them to work well.
If you agree with something then that's fine. Accept it. HOWEVER, if you don't....then you have a right to speak your voice. That's not to say it won't fall on deaf ears...BUT, at least you did your part and made the effort to speak and be heard. As opposed to just sitting there and take what's given to you.
When I was a youngin, our parents lived in a very nice sub-division. Our elementary school was just 7-10 houses away from our home. We (my brother and I) walked to school everyday. However, as this particular sub-division became more popular there was more traffic up and down the street, as our street interconnected the others and also led out to the main roads. Cars used to travel up and down our street at high rates of speed sometimes, which worried our parents. To try and make things safter my father wrote a petition and went around the neighbourhood and had the neighbours sign it. He then took it to the city council and had more stop signs put in as well as speed humps. He did this not just for us, but so all the neighbourhood kids can be safer, walking the streets.
Basically, the moral of the story is that if you want to bring about change, you must take action, just as he did. If you don't agree with something, then speak up so that you may be heard. Don't just sit there like cattle, or sheep amongst a heard, and take what's being given to you and expect that change will just happen. You have to stand up and speak up for what you believe in. Nobody's perfect and sometimes even those that govern how we live our lives are wrong too. Even they need to be shown where and when they've gone wrong.
The laws by which we now have to live and abide by were not always as they are now. Many of them have had to be re-written many times before they "got it right".
Look at prohibition. Alcohol at one point in time was deemed an illegal substance. How it's legalized. (not saying that's necessisarily a good thing...lol)
But I'm sure (hopefully) by now you catch my drift.
I'm sorry but it's people like you that just sit there and take what's given to them that upset me. It's that kind of mentality that will never bring about change.
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Posted: 4/10/2007 1:58:13 PM | ^^^^
Sorry, I agree with most of what you said, I just had to laugh that you called a 49 year old woman "elderly". Is 49 elderly? Sheesh! I'm only 15 short years away from being an elderly old man!
Many people keep saying that this is an old rule, and it's just a new feature to enforce it. Well if this rule has been in place since day 1 of this site, not enforcing the rule certainly hasn't hurt this sites growth. Before this new feature, many profiles were in violation of this "rule" on the forums right in front of the admins face and he never enforced it before. Why all of a sudden is this a big problem that has to be addressed? | |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 2:05:45 PM | my main picture has make up on my face, its the real me the real deal, it gets deleted. well there are pictures I have seen with half a face, or they are doing something an activity where you can not make out the face of the pic that well. this is BUUUUUUUUUUUlsheeeet. I guess then we have to delete pics of people that put up negative pics of themselves too. If this post gets deleted, then I know its some one from Thunder Bay.
Sorry People I have an opinion, and like my ars hole, everyone has one. If I can not speak my mind, according to the constitution, then some one on this site is a dictator.
My head shot is only about a year old. Sure I am in make up, I also want to show that I am a fun loving person that knows how to have some fun. I am not an actor, nor do I have desires to be one. This is a pic, whereby, I had an opportunity to have some community involvement, whereby the play I was in, was intended to break some racial barriers. | |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 2:23:58 PM | ^^^ Bcvalleyboy....nice headshot.
I've seen several people who've adjusted their main pic to show a teeny, tiny little head stuck somewhere in the pic. Pretty funny stuff. I just put a blurry pic up. | |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 2:46:39 PM | | I am angry..I do have a current head shot, and I guess someone is upset I did respond how he thought I should and reported my head shot...it is current and I would like this fixed.. | |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 2:54:31 PM | Personally, I'd rather look at pics of pets, cars, & art than some of the head shots I see around here. Odd too, that hands down panties, bewbs hanging out of a crop top with 1/2 the nipple showing, and other select images, are OK. 
Let people express themselves [save for nudity] however they want on their profile. If you don't like what you see, too bad. You should be reading the profile anyways, not just judging someone solely by a picture. | |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 3:17:23 PM |
kind of funny I had four pics on my profile and the three that were deleted had a face pic of me. That includes my main pic that had the best face shot of me. The one that is left is of a truck.lol
Maybe some one was offended by your face....... NOW that's taking it too far don't ya think???
:((
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Posted: 4/10/2007 3:38:24 PM | Do you like the fact only main pictures must be a head shot?
^ No, I don't.
I may not want to post my face for various reasons - and that should be my choice.
However, I may also want to post some appropriate body shots so at least people have some sense of who the profile belongs to and assess whether they may choose to message or not.
And as far as the other images on a person's profile.... I don't think there is anything wrong with that either (assuming it's with some kind of decent 'person' shots)... I've had some great laughs coming across some pics and in fact initiated contact for that reason (as their profile may have been a little thin).
I think there is such a thing as overkill, and sometimes I see it. But moderately used, it should be ok.
AND I don't think other users should have the ability to delete pics. Some users (as with anything and everything) abuse this option. If they want to report it, fine - but it should be a mod/admin matter to resolve and not for the average user. | |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 4:02:48 PM | People who have had "appropriate" photos removed, please keep posting about it, or email the Admin. (Appropriate being face/head shots as deemed acceptable by the Admin) The main point of this method of members becoming retaliatory is JUST the point he/she/they need realize. If they don't know the abuse is happening they can't put an end to it. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Admin/Mods looking into reports and doing what they feel needs to be done is one thing. Leaving it a free for all will prove anarchy. | |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 4:07:17 PM |
AND I don't think other users should have the ability to delete pics.
They don't. Never did. Why do you think that?
You people that are steaming over this need to read the original message again. What admin said was that people shoiuld comply voluntarily, that if he has to go police this rule (whether he finds an offending profile himself or someone reports one) he will delete everything that isn't a face.
Bob can't delete Mary's photos. Bob CAN tell admin about them and admin can decide. I will agree that I am not into the ratting out portion of what this presents, but how many cases do you think have already happened where a woman who is mad at a guy alleges that he sent mail "looking for sex...." to get him on the radar?
Wouldn't it be easier to comply than to watch your blood pressure rise over what amounts to something that you agreed to in the terms of service when you joined?
Chill people. You are being required to post ONE face shot.
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Posted: 4/10/2007 5:04:10 PM | Everyone keeps mentioning the terms of service, and that we agreed to the rules in them. Well, I just checked out the Terms of service, and no where that I could see, does it state what kind of pictures we are allowed to post. See for yourself.
http://www.plentyoffish.com/terms.aspx | |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 5:10:35 PM |
You must agree to abide by all of the terms and conditions contained in this Agreement in order to become or remain an authorized user of the Service.
Doesn't that mean "I agree to play by your rules?"
A face shot as your primary photo is a "term and condition". | |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 5:24:09 PM |
all of the terms and conditions contained in this Agreement
The key words there being "THIS AGREEMENT" which is the TOS, which does not specify anything about pictures. So lets stop all this talk about "we agreed that we must have a face and head shot when we agreed to the TOS."
The whole "must have a head shot" or whatever it says, at the picture upload screen is fairly new. I know it wasn't there when I first joined POF. The rules were, no nudity, cartoons, pics of celebrities, joke pics., but a head or face shot wasn't " required". So let's stop saying this has ALWAYS been the rule, when it hasn't. This is a fairly new rule. | |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 5:45:57 PM | Oh Cupid.....you can only wish you will look as good as I do when you reach my age !!
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh my.......HELP !!!
I HAVE FALLEN AND I CAN'T GET UP !!!
With such interesting points of view and ideas maybe you should stand beside Al Gore and help fight against Global Warming .
It is so much more important than fighting to have your abs or muscles showing on a picture to try to entice women to like you !!
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Posted: 4/10/2007 5:48:07 PM | Eddie,
The issue still remains, even if your primary photo is a head shot, full body pic, whatever....All other pics or graphics are being removed. Even though bigfish says your 4th or 5th pic can be of your animal, car, boat, or whatever, these images are STILL being deleted, REGARDLESS OF IF YOU HAVE A HEADSHOT. People are reporting these images, even though they are secondary, out of spite and malicious intent. And they are being DELETED. Post a pic that is not of you, a scenery shot, a pic of your car/truck, and it will be deleted. Even though Markus says you can have it there as long as your primary pic is of you or Jenna Jameson, or Rico Suave, the pic/graphic is being deleted.
I like the fact that the main pic should be of yourself and current. But I do not like the fact that even though it is clearly stated that you can have other pics, that they are being abolished. Even if they are not shown, they are deleted.
I liked witchy's dog, and I liked fry_locks eyes. I liked seeing Arugula's legs. Now this is an impossibility. even as a secondary pic. But T&A is still allowed. Go figure.
I will conform......WITH PREJUDICE!
JD
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Posted: 4/10/2007 6:27:38 PM | My condolences on the loss of a pet. I have lost pets in the past and I love my animals deeply.
However, the whining about posting a picture of them on a 'date' website seems a bit frivolous, considering this is not your own personal blog site and not an animal website. | |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 6:38:38 PM | bottleneckblooz
When I signed up, and went to the area where I uploaded my picture, I read the terms of pictures and recalled something about nudity. I am sure the verbage on that page is now updated to reflect the current rules, but the rules are there, were always there.
Inappropriate (IE: NUDITY) pictures were always banned. I don't have a copy of what it said back then to tell you what else has been added since, but that part was always there.
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Posted: 4/10/2007 7:02:43 PM | i think i finally figured out what most have missed themselves. i couldnt figure out why alot of pics were getting deleted..even with the main pic being a facial viewing.
this is what i found in another posting....(canadian forum)
ALL pictures MUST contain you in it with a visible head shot at minimum
if it doesn't follow the minimum, consider a headless shot not valid(as per a admin posting)
2) ***All other pics should contain you as per the instructions on the Image Upload Page**. If you've seen many other pics - admin is the only one that handles profiles, and in time, you may put your pic upload privilege at risk.
so this is saying..you can have any pic after your main pic **only if you are showing your face in it also**
so...any person can post a pic ..of their pet.boat etc etc..as long as you are in it..and they cant be deleted if your face is shown.
 now i am wrong on how this reads also??? | |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 7:14:02 PM | cupidstrikes, I stand by what I said.
The 'picture' section has ways for people to deal with their personal preferences. You can put other pictures 'inside' your profile to show off your body to people who want to see it. I am here to talk to people, and while I do not look up women's profiles, on this chat forum, the pic is right there and cannot be avoided. Sorry, but I have a right not to see a lady (or man) putting their bodily parts in a provocative position that absolutely puts out a specific message. You CAN do that, in a more secluded fashion and not subject others to it who might not want to be subjected. Your right to have your main photo be something that is objectional takes away the rights of others (like on this forum for instance) not to be subjected to it. And yet, you still can put it out there in other ways.
It's kind of like smokers being militant for their rights. I agree you have a right to smoke, just not in my air space. I have a right to clean air.
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Posted: 4/10/2007 7:32:17 PM | Visualize it,
Funny, I tried to respond to your post but got this message-
"In order to maintain the highest quality forums you are restricted to having no more then 2 of the last 10 posts on a thread.
Since 2 of the last 10 posts are yours you can not post to this thread."
Yet you just posted 3 in a row and 4 of the last 5 posts.
Tsk tsk tsk......Don't you know the rules of posting on forums???
F) Any Thread that has More Than (2) Two consecutive Messages by Only (1) One single Individual within a 24 hour Period, will have their excess posted messages deleted unless they are corrective Edit-Action posts. (This is also known as "Sequential Replies", or posting (2) Two Replies in a Row. Please allow Others to Reply before you post again.)
Anyway, I was going to respond to you by saying that I never said that nudity was ever allowed. Go read again what I wrote. | |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 7:40:27 PM |
Even though bigfish says your 4th or 5th pic can be of your animal, car, boat, or whatever, these images are STILL being deleted
I am not going to go back and look, but didn't he say that those variances were okay if people complied with the headshot on their own, but if he had to go deal with the photos himself he would delete everything?
That would explain why photos are getting deleted even if they are the 4th and 5th down the line.
I don't know if that's the case or not, just something I see as a possible explanation.
You have people who are going to push the envelope and test the admins like a kid tests mommy to see how long it takes before mommy explodes. And you have the "you can't tell ME what to do" people....
Well, apparently he can. | |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 7:50:52 PM | bottleneckblooz,
This is not a bash, you seem like a very nice person, however, after I said I did not want to be forced in this forum to look down that lady's blouse, this was your rant :
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Freedom of expression. Ever hear of that?
She's not breaking any rules. She's not showing nudity.
What would (and do) you do if a person has a pic of themselves wearing nothing but swimming trunks?
Ex. a guy at the beach
OR a woman wearing nothing but a bikini?
Ex. A woman at a waterpark or beach
Would you be complaning about not wanting to see some guy's hairy chest or some woman's boobs in a bikini?
If you're at one of these places and see someone with a body you don't like are you going to tell them to leave or go put clothes on?
If you don't like it that's fine. You're entitled not to, BUT you're also entitled not to look at it either!
Do you think all the guys on here care to see pics of a 300 pound woman in a bikini? No, but some women that large chose to use those pics and that's their perogative.
It's called freeom of expression.
What are you going to start doing, censoring EVERYTHING on the net?
There are sites that tell you how to steal free satellite, hack cable tv boxes, hotwire a car, make your own homemade drugs, etc. on the net.
ANYTHING, you want to know or are curious about can be found online.
That doesn't mean everyone is going to go out there and do these things.
This information is "allowed" to be available though for informational/educational purposes (and believe me, although some of those things may seem shrewd and non-useful to you, there is ALOT that can be learned from it and used to actually do productive things).
There recently was (and I'm sure still is) some debate going on about sites that are up and running and showing women how to lose weight and be anorexic. Now sites like this may be harmful (just like many of the other aforementioned ones CAN be) but, it's free speech and is protected by the consitiution.
It is this freedom that allows people self-expression.
Would you rather be living in a society run by Dictatorship? Communism?
Being told what you can and can't wear? Can and can't say, read or participate?]
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Now I took this as perhaps a difference of interpretation in that one lady's picture. She had about 90 percent of her boobs showing at a deliberately provocative angle. Women do that when they want people to look at their boobs. To you, that was not nudity, to me it was. I feel she can "express" herself in the picture by placing it inside her profile. Anyone can see it when you open her profile.
I think the alluding to dictatorship and communism is a bit over the top.
Again, on a public forum, you are writing to a whole list of people with their picture next to the dialog box, it is not something I have a choice to look at or not look at. It's in my face. I don't want it there. Let some guy get his face in it behind the scenes.
Thank you very much.
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Posted: 4/10/2007 8:10:06 PM | | You have to understand that a photo is a person's own unique and personal way to "advertise" for who they want for a date. One woman said here not to allow photos of legs and feet and boots and whatnot. Well, what if that person wants to attract that kind of person with those interests? They put that photo up for a reason "To market themselves" in a way they may be unique for that particular person. In other words, if I'm selling the engine of my old car, I wouldn't post a picture of the entire car, just the engine. I market my product to the types of people I want to attract. We often talk here about the uniqueness of the profile being important and how everyone is tolerant of differences and such. Yet, we want everyone to follow the same rubber stamp treatment of their photos. | |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 8:46:30 PM | I'll tell you what I'M TIRED of........I'M TIRED OF SEEING ALL YOUR FACES.
I vote.................bring back the headless shirtless pics!!!!!!!!!! | |
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