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Posted: 4/15/2007 9:16:36 PM | For those of you who haven't bothered to read the original posts, I'll try and dumb this down to get y'all up to speed.. I know it's long winded to read everything, but I'll see if I can summarize quickly.
1) Changes were made, to make an option always part of POF, to become more accurate.. those changes being, A required headshot for those who wish to include their pictures in their profiles. This allows those who use "search only profiles with photos" to actually search profiles with photos.. darn shame the definition of 'photo' had to be spelled out for a lot of people. You don't see cleavage shots on passports or driver's licenses do you. When's the last time you criticized the government of the day for that, much less DIDNT HAVE TO PAY FOR IT?
2) Arguments were made from the free speech front who believe a photo of the side of a rock face, a river, your boobs, your bum, your dog, your cat, movie stars, (you get the idea) constitutes a profile with a photo. IT DOESNT. If you want to argue about definition.. obviously, it was vague, however is clearly part of your original signup.. and is now enforced.
3) The admin, further changed to allow freedom of expression. This allows profile photos to be whatever the heck you want.. however stipulated, the profile itself must contain at least one photo with a person's face on it.. so those who search profiles for a face, can flip through your posted artwork, until they see a person's face, and if there is none, you can report the whole profile.
He also altered the site to allow you to flip through the photo album of any particular search result..
4) The admin then re-worded the report link, to clarify.. a profile can be any darn way you want it, but if you want to display your art work, show your face somewhere on the profile.
Now.. for you free speech ppl out there.. if you don't want to post a profile with your face included, you may post a profile without any photos. The nature of the construction allows searches of profiles with photos. IF the admin has to keep dumbing this stuff down so it becomes "only search profiles which contain a person's visible face" this is getting a bit on the ridiculous side. I know why he changed it, and from my standpoint it makes perfect logical sense that this website not be deluged by a whole bunch of faceless profiles. I think that takes away from the very essence of pof to begin with.
From a security standpoint, if someone you intend to meet doesn't resemble the age or gender of the photo in their profile there is a good reason to be more careful when meeting someone in person, and upon meeting, if they don't, you have every right to clarify it before you put yourself in a bad position on a date. It HAS happened, and with this extra step, it allows cautious people to know exactly who they're dealing with, if not in the security of the website, in the context of putting themselves in a vulnerable position after MEETING someone from the site. If they don't resemble their picture you have an IMMEDIATE red flag of reference, don't ya?
Much as you don't think there are regional or international standards for the internet, there certainly are, and there are certainly good reasons to keep the pictures on the site to reasonable standards of decency for the sake of not having to go through the aggravating process of age verification. If you've been anywhere near 'adult' websites which have age verification for decency purposes, this involves using a credit card. I don't see him asking for it, so if nothing else fails and decency standards prevail, assume this website can and may be used and/or viewed by minors at any time, in absolute blatant violation of the site rules, however unenforceable because the site is free. So that's where the picture indecency issue becomes something any decent adult should understand. I like verifying age and gender with my perception of the picture.. and I also expect this is a person I may possibly meet, so I have every right to know who I am speaking to.. just as simply as you're entitled to caller ID. If you don't think so, don't post a picture at all.
The fact of the matter is, if the vast majority of posters on here thought they could do any better or be more successful, I've yet to see one do so without charging big money to do so.. this site was set up by someone who fosters a great deal of communication and opinion amongst a great deal of people. If you're so adamant to criticize your creativity being stifled, or claim that your presence here is 'costing' you something, think again. It's costing bandwidth and he has in no way circumvented the forum on which you seem to be venting out your controversial cries of prejudice or censorship.. as a matter of fact every once in a while people's ideas are listened to.. if they are for the good of the website.
One head shot of a user prevents a lot of abuse. A very small percentage of people fake their pictures, and I doubt very many of them would be able to meet someone if they didn't resemble their profile pictures.. so the irony of the complaints never ceases to amaze me.. not to mention the fact the forums themselves, where you vent your complaints, certainly aren't being censored. Say what you will.. and say whatever you wish and it's not edited for content whatsoever. The changes that are a work in progress are for the good of the entire community.. and anytime somebody takes a bold step there are some who feel it's counter productive. But the last thing you want to do, is start venting your frustrations out in the forums, and forgetting who hosts the bandwidth to allow you to speak your opinion in the first place.
As for Napoleon or dictatorship.. near as I know this rule was there when you joined. And to save you the stress, once again, it is now clearer, your main picture can be anything you wish.. however if you wish to post photos in your profile, one must be a clear shot of your face. Then the search function actually works. Otherwise, it becomes a mumbo jumbo mess of photos that are irrelevant when people search for profiles with photos that should contain a person's face.
And I just caught the post of the original rules stipulating all pictures must contain a visible shot of a face.. I hope I'm correct in assuming that rule has broadened to now be "all profiles must contain a visible shot of a face"
Near as I know, the word "pictures" in that above big red lettered rule, has been replaced with the word "profiles", which allows everybody a little more freedom.
If this is clarified, hopefully the entire status quo can stop erroneously reporting profiles which have at least one headshot photo. Obviously there's been a lot of that happening lately.. and for one guy in an apartment, I can see that being a bit of a PITA.. ;) | |
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Posted: 4/15/2007 9:34:45 PM | | I think everyone should have a recent face shot so people can see what they look like. Also everyone on here should be required to post a picture. I have a face shot on my profile and tried to use it but they are still using the full body shot. I hate it when I see a shot of someone's boobs or a leg shot that shows half their butt. It just seems so cheap to me. Pets and flowers, etc. are nice but not on a forum answer. Personally I think that the Mr. POF would be doing the right thing to make everyone post a face picture. It is his site. He makes the rules. I am just thankful that it is free. It is the best site out there. | |
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Posted: 4/15/2007 10:27:33 PM |
The admin, further changed to allow freedom of expression. This allows profile photos to be whatever the heck you want.. however stipulated, the profile itself must contain at least one photo with a person's face on it.. so those who search profiles for a face, can flip through your posted artwork, until they see a person's face, and if there is none, you can report the whole profile.
Um, *NOT* according to the pages pasted just above... read the very large RED text...
"ALL pictures MUST contain you in it with a visible head shot at minimum"
That does NOT say a picture of your dog, car, house, or whatever else, is allowable *anywhere* in your profile... UNLESS you are in the picture. | |
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Posted: 4/15/2007 11:18:32 PM | Singleguy:
Yes, I know, I'm aware.. I just contacted one of the moderators.. it appears not only did the wording change again on the 'report pic' link, but this particular moderator posted the original rules again.. what we have here.. is me obviously getting totally lost in all the translation going on in the last few days of changes on this site..
However.. message #9 from ADMIN on THIS thread, says the following:
Reporting And deleting Main images
Posted: 4/8/2007 3:16:58 PM
If you have a dog, it can be your 3rd or 4th picture. Just the main picture has to be a headshot of you.
Got that? JUST the main picture has to be a headshot of you.
This is from the boss himself. So what mods aren't reading their memoes? Or did the rules all of a sudden change again a day ago?
Would the moderator who posted those rules in this thread read message #9 on page 1 and clarify with the admin and other mods whether those are current rules, or if they need a little tweak so he doesn't encourage breaking them himself? *grin* | |
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Posted: 4/16/2007 7:18:29 AM | Since I don't have an more pix's of me and have some really nice (not dirty) pix's that were made for me with my name (the one here) on them I don't see why I can't use them. I know of at least one person who stills has all his thing's up and they are not his pix's and he has told me he know of others who still have their's.
Now if you want to make this rule ok, but why only some? And what is wrong with the ones that I have over the others? I have seen his and trust me as far as the "rules" they should be gone.
Thank you, just wanted to know.
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Posted: 4/16/2007 8:15:54 AM |
However.. message #9 from ADMIN on THIS thread, says the following: Reporting And deleting Main images Posted: 4/8/2007 3  58 PM If you have a dog, it can be your 3rd or 4th picture. Just the main picture has to be a headshot of you.
I agree this is from Admin, I read the post as well.
Got that? JUST the main picture has to be a headshot of you.
Easier said then done.
This is from the boss himself. So what mods aren't reading their memoes? Or did the rules all of a sudden change again a day ago?
I read the same post the other day myself. I felt at the time that those who already had alternative photos of themselves on their profile would have been fine with those photos so long as they did not try and upload new ones or change existing ones.
The reason being is the VETTING of images in the RATE NEW IMAGES . There is no way of clarifiying whose profile the newly uploaded images belong to and that the user does have a HEADSHOT photo as the main photo.
Would the moderator who posted those rules in this thread read message #9 on page 1 and clarify with the admin and other mods whether those are current rules, or if they need a little tweak so he doesn't encourage breaking them himself? *grin*
I am pretty sure they did read the post but now they will read it again.
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Posted: 4/16/2007 8:39:51 AM | I'm not interested in managing, editing, criticizing, or reporting how other people present themselves. I'm not their mother or their judge, and I would be wrong to act as if I were.
More than that, I would hate to see people start presenting themselves according to a set of rules and coloring inside someone else's arbitrary lines, as it were. I would much prefer to be annoyed and offended by a dozen poor presentation strategies, because that freedom to express oneself will also apply to genuine originality and excellence. Besides, I don't always know in advance what will appeal to me, and I enjoy being surprised.
Rules are for children, driving, and explosives. Our social interactions are governed by voluntary standards, like grammar and courtesy.
Cheers!
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Posted: 4/16/2007 9:18:48 AM | well put Vulf. .................. i'm with you, and TIA 100%..... IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE PIC CLICK THE MOUSE!!! CRY BABIES! | |
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Posted: 4/16/2007 9:22:55 AM | Bravo shieldvulf! Personally, I agree with everything he said. The problem isn't the photos or profiles it is the simple minded, jealous, have nothing better to do than criticize anything outside their own skin people. Instead of a live and let live policy the administration decided to grease to the few squeaky wheels.
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Posted: 4/16/2007 9:28:09 AM | blondblueyed
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Posted: 4/16/2007 11 55 AM
Bravo shieldvulf! Personally, I agree with everything he said. The problem isn't the photos or profiles it is the simple minded, jealous, have nothing better to do than criticize anything outside their own skin people. Instead of a live and let live policy the administration decided to grease to the few squeaky wheels.
Right on Blondblueyed..........
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Posted: 4/16/2007 10:06:49 AM | Odd how the poll results show the users in agreement way ahead of the users not in agreement, considering the last 15 or so pages of this thread are full of people AGAINST this. I suggest not wasting your valuable time on this, as it is apparently not up for "discussion", it's a done deal. | |
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Posted: 4/16/2007 4:10:59 PM |
From a security standpoint, if someone you intend to meet doesn't resemble the age or gender of the photo in their profile there is a good reason to be more careful when meeting someone in person, and upon meeting, if they don't, you have every right to clarify it before you put yourself in a bad position on a date.
Well...pics are not a requirement.........not to have a profile here...... 10 year old pics won't make a difference to your safety and neither does a pic that is 1 day old.....
I don't see why pics of "whatever" with the exception of nudity makes a difference????
Alas I do love POF......... so... it's fine..... but... I'm jus' sayin'.... | |
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Posted: 4/16/2007 6:31:58 PM | I personally took great joy in looking at all the ladies ass's and tit's(who cares what they look like).........why don't you cry babies try harmony.com.....
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Posted: 4/16/2007 11:26:52 PM | hmmmmmmmmmmmm
I used to have a pic of me that I took at the beach. It's just my knees, and I thought it was funny. I used it as my main picture for a while and then got it deleted with a stern talking-to from Admin along with a "this is your last warning!".
So does that mean that now I can put it up again, just not as my main image?
I'll just sit over here on the confused couch and wait for enlightenment. | |
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Posted: 4/17/2007 4:51:19 AM | | No Cooky. According to the mod, our legs are still a no-no. I thought about photo-shopping my head between them, but somehow, that just didn't seem right. | |
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Posted: 4/17/2007 4:59:01 AM | users have absolutely no interest in using the site as a dating site
Shouldnt it be classified as a relationship site? What about the friends / chat / and intimate encounter options specified then? Friendships are relationships
And now you got me thinking about why the Intimate encounter option? doesnt count as dating to me...just an adult sexual hook-up option. Im curious as to what others think
PS I think the monitor a picture thing is a great idea though. However whats the arbitration process. Does it all go to the admin and then they decide? or who decides. I just think it could be open for a bit of revenge reporting. However if there is a credible judging panel in place Im all for it...
Message 582 - you need to look up the definition of "" dumb it down "" Your post is a thesis, I gave up after paragraph 47... | |
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Posted: 4/17/2007 6:30:15 PM | This is very frustrating.... yes, I have a headshot, and yes, I have tried also uploading a full body shot - fully clothed - that includes my face, albeit partially masked. If the rules are truly that only the primary photo must contain a headshot, why are my other shots continually deleted? This has gone beyond a poll quickly into a "feature" that is inconsistently implemented.  Let's make the rules clear and consistent so we have at least a *chance* of being able to follow them! | |
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Posted: 4/17/2007 6:47:03 PM | | Personally I dont like this at all! When I had "my" picture up I got far to many emails. I could not keep up and alot were rude. If I did not respond to all of them the guys would get nasty. The block button got alot of use. With no picture I got very little emails. I put up a really nasty picture. It was of a crack head. She was missing her teeth and all. The profile is me. All my words and thoughts. The picture I put up Ifind funny too. Some people did to. They would actually read my profile. With that picture up it became quality of the individual before pictures were even exchanged. I have since been found out and the beautiful toothless crackhead has now been deleted:( | |
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Posted: 4/17/2007 6:59:38 PM | 3) The admin, further changed to allow freedom of expression. This allows profile photos to be whatever the heck you want.. however stipulated, the profile itself must contain at least one photo with a person's face on it.. so those who search profiles for a face, can flip through your posted artwork, until they see a person's face, and if there is none, you can report the whole profile.
He also altered the site to allow you to flip through the photo album of any particular search result..
4) The admin then re-worded the report link, to clarify.. a profile can be any darn way you want it, but if you want to display your art work, show your face somewhere on the profile.
This is NOT the case though if you want to post! I had to get rid of everything but my face off of my profile to have a ban lifted that I was unaware of. I can't even get Admin to get back to me if the partial face pic I had was OK as it had been for some time.
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However.. message #9 from ADMIN on THIS thread, says the following:
Reporting And deleting Main images
Posted: 4/8/2007 3:16:58 PM
If you have a dog, it can be your 3rd or 4th picture. Just the main picture has to be a headshot of you.
Got that? JUST the main picture has to be a headshot of you.
This is from the boss himself. So what mods aren't reading their memoes? Or did the rules all of a sudden change again a day ago?
Would the moderator who posted those rules in this thread read message #9 on page 1 and clarify with the admin and other mods whether those are current rules, or if they need a little tweak so he doesn't encourage breaking them himself? *grin*
Doesn't matter from what I got told. | |
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Posted: 4/18/2007 1:45:43 PM | | if u dont agree with this none thought out rule making this site boring and vain then do what a lot of people are doing and that's removing all there pics .. then it will be a bland a boring web site .. freedom to express yourself is a human right as long as you dont hurt anyone else .. so this is utter rubbish .. and clearly admin are deleting all sorts of pics no matter what due to people making complaints ! isnt it shallow people that are so picky .. maybe i should set up a site just for them .. we could call it plentyofnitpickers.com or plentyofsquealers.com remember the picture you look at proves nothing it could be that person or someone else , it also could be 10 or 20 years old as i know some women and guys clearly lie about there age or pics that are posted! to me there should be some humor to a dating site ..and funny pics say something about the persons thinking and outlook.. and also some people are not looking for dates to talk or make friends , this isn't a cattle market !! you dont go into a bar because its boring to meet new people you go there for the fun and atmosphere , u dont expect someone to say leave your humor at the door please .. but if we let people make this site boring and like a line up line up dating site then this site will turn into all the rest it doesn't matter if its free... this site is sponsored and at some point the owner will make good money either selling this site to another corp!! i should know im in marketing ! lets all get back to why we joined this site !! to have some fun meet some great new people and if your lucky for some meet your soul mate!! and stop this utter rubbish !! | |
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Posted: 4/19/2007 5:37:06 PM | The title is
" Reporting and deleting MAIN images "
So why are pics on my profile that ARE NOT main images being deleted
I thought we were past this
tell me once and for all
is it ok to have non main images that do not have head shots???
is it ok for me to put pics of my life so people know who i am and where i come from??
or am i wasting my time trying to give people an insight into who i am??
phew.....this is soooooo frustrating
someones got more time on their hands to waste.....to want to keep deleting my pics....amazing
just tell me
is it or isnt it
huh
getting sick of this nonsense | |
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Posted: 4/20/2007 6:27:55 PM |
So why are pics on my profile that ARE NOT main images being deleted
I would have to say that any new photos that you may have uploaded would have been rejected upon upload where upon they would have been vetted in the RATE NEW IMAGES.
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Posted: 4/21/2007 4:35:46 PM | | To follow-up on the thoughts posted by Cooky4321, I have experienced a problem of concern. First of all, I would just like to say I like this site and have nothing against the creator. I commend him for coming up with a great idea. It is his site and so far this service has been provided pro bono...so please don't get me wrong. I am just expressing a situation which perhaps Mr. POF is not aware of. About two weeks ago, I attempted to sign onto the site and discovered that I had been totally deleted...was (fit_one2003). I was quite confused at first. I thought I'd followed all the rules but to my chagrin, I was wrong. I came to the conclusion that the reason I was completely deleted was because I posted a shot of my mid-body (also known as the dreaded torso shot). It was from my naval up to the neck. AND, it was my main pic. There were several others with head shots, etc. along with my profile. There was no nudity (I have the photo if anyone doubts my statement). I posted the pic because I am an avid fitness buff and thought there was nothing wrong with showing such. I only question why I was deleted without any warning or admonishment (unless that was the rule). I would have gladly changed the pic. I just felt a little down because I lost all other photos and a written profile that I put a bit of time and effort into…along with all the forums participated in. Since that time I created a new profile and have attempted to upload that photo and each time it is deleted after upload (note: not as main pic). I first thought it was being reported but through experimentation, I discovered it seems to be an automatic action. And this happens whether I check it to be displayed with my other profile pics or not (cannot upload it in no way-shape or form.) Also, I have noticed that NUMEROUS other members have shots of body parts, legs, arms, tattoos, etc. and these pics are a part of their profile. I have even seen main pics as such and the person was not deleted... I believe after they change the main image. Once again, I love the site but cannot fully comprehend that. Of course, someone may respond with (read the rules) but I have read the rules and am perfectly willing to follow such. | |
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