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 Diff360

Joined: 11/11/2007
Msg: 26
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Posted: 1/5/2008 1:52:41 PM

And I've notice that the most shallow women are christian women


Boy talk about being judgemental. Being a Christian woman myself, I have never in my life been called shallow. Or judgemental. But according to you, I am.

Being Christian doesn't mean perfection. We are human and have our faults the same as anyone else. Yes, there are some that put themselves on a pedestal, but certainly not all, probably not even most.

You wouldn't assume that all men just want to get laid or that all Christian women are virgins.
 -=PapiChulo=-

Joined: 12/19/2007
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Posted: 1/5/2008 2:39:01 PM

You may have cut your selection of women to date down to almost zero if you are looking for a virgin.


I knew a virgin once. Of course, she was an ugly 3rd grader from Iowa, but still.
 nogo3

Joined: 2/26/2007
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Posted: 1/5/2008 4:58:59 PM
Hey OP, i have dated girls that are waiting for marriage, but i only date them until they get married, no kissing, no sex and no touching. I would not want one of them to get attached, they mite end up dead in bed, then what are ya gonna do, ur kinda stuck with her until you get divorced.

 Timo_86

Joined: 11/20/2007
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Posted: 1/5/2008 5:35:06 PM
Urbanessa wrote: "Why would anyone wait? Before you buy the car you should take it for a test drive. Or two or three or a hundred."

Yeah but just like a car, that plan backfires when you rack up 300 000 k's



Who wants a car that has had that many 'test drives'?
 RickyMonch

Joined: 12/1/2007
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Posted: 1/5/2008 6:14:52 PM

Boy talk about being judgemental. Being a Christian woman myself, I have never in my life been called shallow. Or judgemental. But according to you, I am.

Being Christian doesn't mean perfection. We are human and have our faults the same as anyone else. Yes, there are some that put themselves on a pedestal, but certainly not all, probably not even most.

You wouldn't assume that all men just want to get laid or that all Christian women are virgins.


i said most, if you reply back and are defending this view, than it imply that you feel that you have done this in the past.


I didn't call you shallow, just something I've notice with my own christian lady friends and also a few times when christian women have gotten together, along with how the chrisitan group at colleges acts towards people who do not want to join their group.

if you replied, not my fault that your believed that the post was towards you
 americaninthailand

Joined: 12/15/2007
Msg: 31
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Posted: 1/5/2008 7:01:42 PM
There was some post by some Christian woman earlier. You two should get together and get on a Christian dating site.
 -=PapiChulo=-

Joined: 12/19/2007
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Posted: 1/5/2008 7:41:33 PM
^^^ Makes perfect sense. No muss, no fuss...
 mellie_11

Joined: 12/8/2007
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Posted: 1/5/2008 10:32:51 PM
To answer the question simply, yes. Some of us wait until marriage. I myself am one of them, but I am also a Christian. But I think you have to think about how much that value means to you. If it means that much to you, then it will be worth it, but if doesn't mean that much to you, you might want to rethink your standards. It's extremely important for me to wait, but then I also want a guy who is waiting as well. You can't have it both ways.
 smilinglaughing

Joined: 2/20/2007
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Posted: 1/6/2008 4:25:40 PM
L.Karla: how much is the percentage when they divorce?

is it US stats or worldwide figures? and when were the research made?



Statistically,it is estimated that only 9% of people are virgins when they marry.
 smilinglaughing

Joined: 2/20/2007
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Posted: 1/6/2008 4:30:53 PM
urbanessa: wrong comparison.

here: the car also buys you!

you can compare anything with anything but buying a car and getting married is quite different....



Why would anyone wait? Before you buy the car you should take it for a test drive. Or two or three or a hundred.
 Urbanessa

Joined: 8/15/2007
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Posted: 1/6/2008 5:05:02 PM
Urbanessa wrote: "Why would anyone wait? Before you buy the car you should take it for a test drive. Or two or three or a hundred."

Timo_86 wrote: Yeah but just like a car, that plan backfires when you rack up 300 000 k's
Who wants a car that has had that many 'test drives'?

Well, Timo_86, you as a 21-year old virgin (I assume) might not be aware of some crucial facts, so let me fill you in on this: Other than a car the sexual intercourse equipment doesn't suffer from wear and tear or abrasion when used often - quite the opposite. The more you use those tools and the more experienced you get the more both partners will be able to enjoy the intercourse. And, believe me, there's hardly anything bringing a relationship to an abrupt end more quickly than a man who's simply a terrible fvck and doesn't know how to operate his equipment properly.

Also to be considered: For her entering marriage as a virgin is practically a guarantee for her wedding night being one of the worse and more horrendous nights of her life. The wedding night is supposed to be fun - it is not supposed to be blood, pain and tears, and that is very likely what it will be with two people with no idea what they are doing but a determination to fulfill a task.
 smilinglaughing

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Posted: 1/6/2008 6:55:12 PM

Also to be considered:


urbanessa: you consider too much, it's not that complex. if the newly wed couple are in love, chances are their love will be strong enough to do well and manage their first steps, like for thousands of years all couples did, so don't worry about them!
 Kynnie

Joined: 4/8/2007
Msg: 38
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Posted: 1/6/2008 7:12:53 PM

does anyone wait for marriage anymore?

Hmm... I dont wanna marry a stallion to find out he's a donkey.
Well...unless he's hung like one.
 Urbanessa

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Posted: 1/6/2008 7:24:16 PM

if the newly wed couple are in love, chances are their love will be strong enough to do well and manage their first steps, like for thousands of years all couples did,

For "thousands of years" marriage hasn't had anything to do with "love" at all, and for many couples worldwide (probably the majority) even today marriage is an arranged partnership and not a connection based on love for each other. And no matter how much you love the dude: the first time usually hurts like crazy for women. Since you can hardly have any first-hand experience in this field you might want to verify this information with other women since you don't seem to believe my statement.
 1SweetSarah

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Posted: 1/6/2008 7:36:58 PM
My husband waited till we were married...I hadn't. It was a personal choice on his part..on both our parts, and it worked out for us. I don't regret not waiting, it's all a matter of perspective I guess.
 TolsmaLMC

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Posted: 1/6/2008 7:56:31 PM
"Urbanessa wrote: "Why would anyone wait? Before you buy the car you should take it for a test drive. Or two or three or a hundred."
Yeah but just like a car, that plan backfires when you rack up 300 000 k's
Who wants a car that has had that many 'test drives'?"

Good point! I agree.
 -=PapiChulo=-

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Posted: 1/6/2008 9:35:57 PM

Yeah but just like a car, that plan backfires when you rack up 300 000 k's



Most previously married women have at least that many "k's" on them. You saying that's a thing they should be shamed for?
 Kynnie

Joined: 4/8/2007
Msg: 43
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Posted: 1/7/2008 12:05:58 AM

Yeah but just like a car, that plan backfires when you rack up 300 000 k's

Most previously married women have at least that many "k's" on them. You saying that's a thing they should be shamed for?

I think the comparison was not in how many k's...but how many test drivers.
 Rachelle~C

Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 44
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Posted: 1/7/2008 7:46:03 AM

The wedding night is supposed to be fun - it is not supposed to be blood, pain and tears, and that is very likely what it will be with two people with no idea what they are doing but a determination to fulfill a task.



I don't know what your first time was like,but if what you wrote was any indication,omg that sounds awful.Just because you experienced it that way does not mean everyone will.Personally for me there was only a quick pain that went away almost right away and very little blood.It was actually quite nice.
 kaagwaantaan

Joined: 6/19/2007
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Posted: 1/7/2008 12:28:32 PM
I happen to know of 2 lovely 21 yr old girls who are waiting for marriage.

It's a commitment on thier parts and they are fully supported by family and friends who love them.

waiting for marriage isn't for everyone.

I also agree with the woman who's divorced and waiting for marriage.

I lived with someone for 3 years. I"ll never do that again. It's marriage or nothing.
I'd prefer not to think of how many "k's" have test driven the spousal unit before I got him.
 Urbanessa

Joined: 8/15/2007
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Posted: 1/7/2008 4:53:23 PM

I don't know what your first time was like,but if what you wrote was any indication,omg that sounds awful.Just because you experienced it that way does not mean everyone will.

Where did I say that *I* experienced it that way?
I didn't say that, I didn't indicate that, and by no means will I ever speak about my personal sexual experience/s in a public forum. Ever. What happens in my bed stays in my bed.
However, there's girl talk. We're women after all.
And from those experiences other women have told me about I've come to the conclusion that a majority of women apparently does not enjoy the first time (especially with the man not knowing what he's doing either...), and I've also come to the conclusion that based on a bad first time many never develop a healthy sexual relationship.

Personally for me there was only a quick pain that went away almost right away and very little blood.It was actually quite nice.

Just out of curiosity: And that was with a virgin guy? (I'd find that hard to believe.)
 Rachelle~C

Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 47
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Posted: 1/7/2008 5:32:44 PM
My first time experience was by no means unusual .Most of the people i knew had a very easy time of it their first time too.I don't see what's so wrong about discussing our experiences in here so long as we don't give out names and dates and anything extremely specific.


Believe me ,disbelieve me it's really of no consequence to me.I was there i know what happened and how it happened.I see no reason into scaring people who have yet to have sex like it's going to be this unbelievably painful and blood soaked event.That's just not true.I don't know what on earth the man who you had your first time with did,but he obviously had no compassion and tenderness.

I don't know of anyone who had to be rushed to the emergency room after their first time.
 Michaelann

Joined: 9/11/2004
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Posted: 1/8/2008 12:11:29 AM
I don't know of anyone who had to be rushed to the emergency room after their first time-raychass


That actually happened to a girl friend of mine when we were still in high school. It's fairly rare, but still does
happen occassionally. But I do agree with you raychass, we shouldn't scare people with tales of how painful
it can be. Because that isn't always true. It's different for everyone I would think, just like many other experiences.
 Csonka

Joined: 11/21/2004
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Posted: 1/31/2008 4:00:55 PM
Sex effects trustworthiness, friendship, love, in kindness and unselfishness. Love and friendship are attached. It effects sanctity of character and presence. Honour, in this case first love honours and possibly foremost love honours. Blood covenant. It is a matter of justice, and ego, and esteem. And very much, commitment.

Someone who does not wait can be viewed as selfish, and unkind. Already married to four who were already married to five each... unholy. Past attachments are real. There is a return often to the first love.

What were their causes...? Collusions.

You want to tell your wife she the only one, and never say "you'll never match her." Either from anger or as a matter of fact. Intentionally or accidently it is cruel and not idealistic friendship, or loving.

"I even loved you before I met you." Lyric. But you wouldn't not wait, because of that. True?

But from weakness and this culture of eros... we need be relentant and forgiving, working at recovery, of love and honour and trust..., and be delicate about the comprimises in the history of the heart and soul..
 catcountry7

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Posted: 1/31/2008 4:38:06 PM
no,, why in the wqorld would you wait till you get married??? then if it sucks youre married to that person !!!!!!!


they didnt have birth control back then,, or condoms,,,



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