However, JTF, which is what your link is about, is far removed from the average soldier and Ranger in that they don't day to day, live in mud and water and put up with the BS that a military grunt has to. However, they are good and are among the best in the world at what they do which is kill people in fast moving high profile situations, snatch and grab, and protection of dignitaries.

No, not at all. Our Rangers are or, were when I was in Pathfinders within the Airborne Regiment. While smaller in size and only ran the course once a year, the standards were the same as a Ranger course but, focused more on Recce and LZ/DZ ops than search and destroy. Prerequisites for the course were being a member of certain trades such as sigs, infantry, artillery, medical and then being AB qualified as well as recommended for the course. Pass rates were about ten out of sixty with two members being selected every year to attend a Ranger course in the states and frequently taking course awards. One year, a Sergeant (Brown) won all the awards which was the first time in the history of Rnager School that had happened.

Pathfinders are not Rangers, all Pathfinder means is you are the liaison between your ground unit and any air asset. Women can be Pathfinder as well as Airborne qualified.

As for your guys taking the Ranger Coarse, the coarse is 72 days long, shorter now.
The Ranger unit is a way of life. So you had a guy honor grad the Ranger coarse, big deal.

Why don't you work on your own reputation instead of riding the coattail of ours.

Canada

In the Canadian Army, airborne pathfinders are an elite group of "quiet professionals" who - in addition to securing drop zones, gathering intelligence and delivering briefings to follow-on forces - also conduct operations ranging from ambushes and reconnaissance behind enemy lines to hostage rescue. They are regarded as Tier 2 Special Operations forces.

The only way to qualify as a pathfinder in the Canadian Army is to successfully pass the Patrol Pathfinder course. It is designed to be the hardest course in the Canadian Army, and only the most physically and mentally fit pass. Historically, pass rates are less than 25%.

The pathfinders of the Canadian Airborne Regiment were some of the top soldiers in Canada. Several of them served with 1 Commando. The unit has since been disbanded.

How do you think that reputation, that you're so eager to claim, came to be?

Furthermore our fighting men and women are generally trained to a level that would be considered Rangers in the the US military.

I'm thinking we're on the same sheet of music. I'm sure we can both agree that the statement below is totally inaccurate.

(Furthermore our fighting men and women are generally trained to a level that would be considered Rangers in the the US military.)

sunwindnstars"I'm all for Canada but lets not start throwing absolute nonsense around."

Leanlife"Exactly. Heard one of our ferverent idiots say that one of ours was worth seven of yours. I thought that seeing as how one of yours was worth ten of theirs how I would feel, trained as I was facing seventy armed guys all by myself with a CDN version of the M16, 120 rounds of 5.56 and a pistol and a sawed off Lakefield pump with full chamber. Not too robust to say the least."

Coupled with easier to get aircraft and better gear we had to overcome your advantage by simply relying on black cadillacs and well aimed bullets.

Furthermore our fighting men and women are generally trained to a level that would be considered Rangers in the the US military.