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| Thoughts on Canadians being involved in the Gulf War
Posted: 5/18/2009 6:01:02 AM |
Tell me , is it ok for no girls to attend school? Is that ok on PEI? Is it ok for families to lose young men by force to the cause of extreme fundementalism? Is it ok to force our sons to participate in a particular political party on PEI?
As graduations in our schools on PEI approach, imagine no female teachers, no female students , the doors shut to them by an extremist party in power. Add to that the issue of direct harbouring of groups that promote terrorist activity.
WE have No Right to Dictate the customs or laws of another country. PEI is NOT I repeat NOT Afghanistan! I am certain 'we' have customs / policies / laws in This province / country that would absolutely disgust many people in many other countries. How would you feel if "they" invaded us and told us how to live?
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direct harbouring of groups that promote terrorist activity - Perhaps when WE have eliminated that same activity in the USA and Canada - we Might have some room to speak on other countries.
Is it ok for families to lose young men by force to the cause of extreme fundementalism? - No it isn't - which is Exactly why we need to bring Them home. Canadian familes Have lost too many sons AND daughters to a war we do Not belong in.
Canada / USA - The unfought wars in Our own countries: Gang warfare - hundreds of innocents killed for being at the wrong place at the wrong time. Crystal Meth, Cocaine, Prescription Drug Abuse. ... Child Prostitution, Kiddy Porn, Molesting Priests, Babies being burned by daddy, Mothers selling pics of 3 year old girls online .. "Terrifying"
Like I said - WE have enough of our own terrorist activity that is going Unchecked because we're too busy minding the business of other countries - trying to control and convert to our customs. I don't blame 'them' for not willingly converting .. look what we offer! | |
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| Thoughts on Canadians being involved in the Gulf War
Posted: 5/18/2009 6:55:51 AM | If Canadians ever fall into the abyss that the Afghan people were in prior to November 2001, I do hope someone comes and rescues us. The ISAF effort is not imposing western rule but rather has liberated uneducated and destitute peoples from the extremist rule of the Taliban.
Regardless of all speculation in this debate there is one fact : Canada is in Afghanistan , along with many other nations,and is offering hope to millions of Afghan citizens. I do not support cutting and running. Stay until security concerns are completed. We sailed off to help Britian in WW2 ,and prior , to help , was that a mistake as well? There are times we , as a nation, must stand up for basic human decency in this world.
Tell me, AS is , you state we do not belong in this war so what kind of war would we belong in ? none? | |
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| Thoughts on Canadians being involved in the Gulf War
Posted: 5/18/2009 8:23:29 AM | There is a HUGE difference between the World stepping in to Stop Hitler from invading More countries and us interfering with the culture of one that is not ours. As for the "Taliban" .. I'm sorry - but they are not as big as the propoganda machine would have You believe - in fact we have more gang members in north america than there have ever been Taliban.
So - what do you think we should do? Let Our own country go to hell while we "educate" those we "Judge" to be ignorant simply because they are not the same as us?
I don't believe in war, I believe it is a Weak method of attempting to control - no more no less. IMO - IF we really wanted "solutions" we would be working for peace not fighting in wars. Since you asked - IF I "Had to" pick a war worthy fighting - how bout one of these:
Poverty - homelessness, hunger, illiteracy >> In North America
Gangs - >> In North America
Nasty Drugs - Crystal Meth, Prescription Poisons .. etc.. >> In North America
Child Abuse, neglect, molestation, exploitation, kiddy porn >> In North America
Need more?? and How would you feel if Any other country chose to invade us because of Our own human rights violations?
I say clean up our own house First. | |
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| Thoughts on Canadians being involved in the Gulf War
Posted: 5/20/2009 7:05:03 PM | I appreciate your opinions, As is . The very fact you can offer them freely re-inforces my support for the Afghan mission.
Only helping in our own backyard supports the mis-guided perception that we are only peacekeepers. Our weak efforts in Rawanda proved the very tragic flaw in that. Global thinkers recognize that the wealthier nations have a responsibility to help the less fortunate so I'm proud that Canada and the well trained Canadian women and men are getting the job done.
My final comment in this thread is that Canadians have recourse to the law. In Canada,the rules of society are there and issues can addressed in a civil manner. In Afghanistan, thanks to our efforts, the rule of law will be established once again. John Lennon would be so proud. Imagine that. | |
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| Thoughts on Canadians being involved in the Gulf War
Posted: 5/21/2009 12:57:45 PM | I Was military for 11 years. "well trained"?? yup - as Peacekeepers. Further to that - the Canadian Military does Not have the weaponry to actually fight in a war zone ..
I say again - We have a long way to go in this country before we have any right to interfere in another.
Don't let the propaganda machine cloud your judgement. | |
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| Thoughts on Canadians being involved in the Gulf War
Posted: 9/23/2009 7:15:25 PM | | Necessary for political purposes, yet utterly without merit, is the relentless belief in a war, for the people of Afghanistan - against the evil Taliban. Formerly the government of said country, the latter are by definition part of the former. The idea that without widespread popular support, a handful of extremists from one of the world's most impoverishied countries, could for eight years resist the most powerful military force in human history, is patently absurd. Of course in Canada such considerations are tantamount to treason because, "While normally only ill mannered, in wartime the truth is considered criminal." (Bertrand Russell) | |
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| Thoughts on Canadians being involved in the Gulf War
Posted: 9/23/2009 7:55:34 PM | [quotWe teach our little sons how wrong and how ignoble blows are; schools and church support our precepts and inoculate the growing minds with thought of love and peace. "Let dogs delight to bark and bite,' we say; but human beings with immortal souls must rise above the methods of the brute and walk with reason and self control.
And then-dear GOD! you men, you wise strong men, our self-announced superiors in brain, our peers in judgement, you go forth to war! You leap at one another, mutilate and starve and kill your fellow man, and ask the world's applause for such heroic deeds. You boast and strut; and if no song is sung, no laudatory epic writ in blood, telling how mnay widows you have made, why then perforce, you say our bards are dead and inspiration sleeps to wake no more. And we, the women, whose lives you are-what can we do but sit in silent homes and wait and suffer? Not for us the blare of trumpets and the bugle's call to arms-for us no waving banners, no supreme,triumphant hour of conquest. Ours the slow dread torture of uncertainty, each day the bootless battle with the same despair. And when at best your victories reach our ears, there reaches with them to our pitying hearts the thought of countless homes made desolate and other women weeping for their dead.
O men, wise men, superior beings, say, is there no substitute for war in this great age and era? If you answer 'No' then let us rear our children to be wolves and teach them from the cradle how to kill. Why should we waste our time and work in talking peace, and then declare for war?
Peace sells, but obviously no one is buying.
War is a constant with mankind, whether it's genocide in the Balkans, Darfur or fighting against nazism. I'm not saying war is a good thing, but the bottom line is this.
We can't stop a fight we were dragged into by the people who financed the 9/11 attacks, nor can we back down from their aiming multi ton loads of their heroin at our countries, to finance their terrorism. If you really have a better plan of action, maybe you should get cracking and stop the madess that is war. Better yet, you maybe should do someting about your general hatred towards men. A little less hatred after all makes the world a sunnier, brighter place. Peace out!  | |
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