| Does Bipolar = Liar?
Posted: 12/21/2007 12:39:59 PM | I'm bipolar, and I'm still learning things about this mental disorder. As for lying, I can only speak for myself when I say that I try to be as honest as I can be. Sometimes I'm too honest.
People are different. Some lie and some don't whether they're bipolar, or not.
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| Does Bipolar = Liar?
Posted: 12/21/2007 5:24:19 PM | My son is Bipolar and shows no particular tendency to lie. In fact, because of other problems he's rather naive and tends to be quite honest. Some people with bipolar disorder also have other problems. Depending on what the other problems are, that may cause them to lie.
Of course, the same might be said about people without bipolar illness. 
They also may have other problems and may have a tendency to lie! 
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| Does Bipolar = Liar?
Posted: 12/21/2007 6:13:07 PM | On a good day a bipolar will = Be fine to be around
On a bad day a bipolar will = Take a frying pan and beat you over the head with it.
Their moods can change on a moments notice. How do I know? I went on a date with one, once. Very very wild mood changes. I'm sure there are different levels of bipolar, but I can only say what I experianced before. As far as the liar part, I did not stay in the relationship long enough to say. She was calm one moment and a totally different person the next.
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| Does Bipolar = Liar?
Posted: 1/5/2008 9:20:46 AM | As you said, not all bipolars are alike. Too bad you met up with someone out of control. It's smart to run in the face of violence. However, a lot of people are doing well on medication and listening to their shrinks. My doctor says I'm one of the fortunate ones.
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| Does Bipolar = Liar?
Posted: 2/28/2008 5:35:43 PM | I'm bipolar, I choose to give it to God. I don't take lithium because I just can't trust something that deprives me of my ability to think. It's an everyday affair, with pride, with God, but I feel I need to make peace with Him in order to be healed.
"Faith, hope and love remain, the greatest of these is love." | |
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| Does Bipolar = Liar?
Posted: 2/28/2008 9:46:50 PM | | No, I don't think lying is a compulsion in bipolar illness, but it certainly is in "Borderline Personality Disorder", which can be comorbid with bipolar illness. | |
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| Does Bipolar = Liar?
Posted: 3/1/2008 7:36:16 AM | | I was married to a woman for 5 years who has pipolar. I agree with every word that "backwarduck" said. | |
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Posted: 3/1/2008 8:55:39 AM |
I was married to a woman for 5 years who has pipolar. I agree with every word that "backwarduck" said.
Backwarduck totally described a relationship with a BPD (borderline personality disorder), not a bipolar. Total black and white thinking. Love you one week and hate you the next. No in betweens. Declares their undying love to you on Monday and falls in love with another on Tuesday. Cheats. Lies. Reinvents history so that they have never done anything wrong; in fact they are the victim in all circumstances.
I considered responding to Backwarduck to address the "label" of his partner's behaviour but then passed for fear of becoming a broken record on this BPD thing. However, since you are jumping on the same wagon, j2r2a, I gotta speak out.
Relationshipwise, a bipolar is a walk in the park compared to a Borderline. In fact, I believe, with meds to control the mood swings, one can have a rich and rewarding relationship with a bipolar. However, sometimes (or maybe even more often than sometimes) bipolar illness is comorbid with other mental illnesses and this is where the confusion lies. It's as one previous poster claimed - a dog can have ticks and fleas at the same time.
It seems that bipolars are being accused of symptoms that clearly don't fall under their disorder. They are symptoms of another. Maybe misdiagnosed or comorbid. | |
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Posted: 3/1/2008 4:25:32 PM |
a bipolar is a walk in the park compared to a Borderline.
boy, is that ever true! the bipolar sufferer, from what i understand, may not realize when they don't speak the truth. they seem to 'lose time.' like they had a week-long manic phase and think stuff that happened 2 weeks ago happened yesterday.
whereas, the borderline experiences delusional thinking. at times, if they realize that it's delusional, they'll convince themselves that it's real. it's wild how they honestly come to believe complete fiction. | |
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| Does Bipolar = Liar?
Posted: 3/2/2008 10:52:49 AM | To the OP:
I dated a bi-polar girl for three years. Much like other posters have mentioned, she was great for several weeks at a stretch, and then she'd have a mean-streak for a few. Was NOT one of my best relationships, let me tell ya.
As for lying, she would definitely say a lot of things that simply weren't true, but I don't think she knew she was lying. Bi-polar disorder gives a person a warped understanding of the world, so when she was manic she was overly optimistic and even though she knew she was stretching the truth, was probably confident that it were true.
Same when she was on a depressive swing. She probably knew she was stretching the truth, but was so depressed that exaggerating the negative of the situation seemed reasonable to her.
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| Does Bipolar = Liar?
Posted: 3/2/2008 5:28:48 PM | | Thank you Lil Brooker for clearifying that it is possible that a person can be suffering from more than one disorder. In fact I recently met a young person who has some disorders and bipolar is just one of them. | |
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Posted: 3/2/2008 5:54:35 PM | i wonder if, since apparently so many of them don't stem from bio-chemical imbalances, if one person, due to many existing factors, can suffer from many disorders simutaneously. and get so good at masking and presenting normality that they all go untreated. i guess people like that reserve their more unsavory behaviors for certain individuals and hide them from everyone else.
and how long can someone like that stay in denial? what kind of event would need to take place before they admit they have a problem and seek help? | |
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| Does Bipolar = Liar?
Posted: 3/2/2008 9:33:16 PM | hmm this is an interesting question.
well i am bipolar and manic depressive. and i personally dont think i am like that. my friends around me always say i joke alot and sometimes say that i lie alot. but i dont htink they are lies, just jokes.
like i can say, oh school is on tuesday, and later say "kidding its wednesday haha" , i dont think that is a lie.
personally i think being bipolar its like a light switch where our mood can change, some people it is more subtle and their mood changes slightly and not so often.
i dont think those people lie alot or its part of the disorder.perhaps, these people lie naturally, and are using their sickness as an excuse. or maybe they are just lying about being sick altogether. | |
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Posted: 3/2/2008 9:47:10 PM | working in mental health I have clients that have different degrees of bi-polar but in reality the word bi-ploar means highs and lows sometimes with a lot of engenery and some time just wanting to hide and y0u can have more than one disordernormally bi-polar s in my opinion do not lie more that any one else but it is quite possiable they may have a mental disorder I hate that word a long with a personality disorder suchas was mentioned in another post borderline personility disorder | |
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| Does Bipolar = Liar?
Posted: 3/2/2008 10:02:12 PM |
and how long can someone like that stay in denial? what kind of event would need to take place before they admit they have a problem and seek help?
I think many bipolars *do* seek help, but do not get properly diagnosed at first. Typically they seek help during a depressive mood and get misdiagnosed for depression. Rarely does one go to seek help when they are manic and on top of the world.
Borderlines might seek help. Best to ask *them* what was their prompt. There are a couple Recovering Borderline Forums which you can Google.
NPDs don't get help. They think everybody else needs help. | |
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| Does Bipolar = Liar?
Posted: 3/2/2008 10:03:11 PM | | I would likem to know who said that a mental disorder is not a chemical in balance bi-polar certaintly is as with most mental disorder . you may be thinking about personality disorders look them up in the dsm-4 there is a clear difference even though there can be cross overs I do hope that the people that are ans. these questions have a least a background in Mental health | |
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Posted: 3/2/2008 10:24:42 PM | | there are some very good meds now for tx of bi-polarism and they do work and have a lot less side effects than the older ones I have clients that are quite funny telling jokes all the time but are constantly moving around some that can get bitter and mean and some that just want to cry but have not seen one that was given to out and out lying. once again please have some back ground in mental health bfore giving info out on any mental disorder the wrong post could be very harmful to some one with a disorder | |
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| Does Bipolar = Liar?
Posted: 3/3/2008 5:22:57 AM |
I would likem to know who said that a mental disorder is not a chemical in balance bi-polar certaintly is as with most mental disorder . you may be thinking about personality disorders
you're right. i had some confusion there.
i asked the questions because i hope to learn a bit more. i recently had an encounter with a deeply disturbed individual and would like to understand the problem in more depth. the person, who refused to seek any sort of help, showed some stuff that looked like bipolar, some stuff that looked like borderline and some stuff that looked like narcissistic personality disorder, combined with an alcohol problem. i walked away unscathed, but i still have this curiousity thing going on. | |
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Posted: 3/3/2008 8:48:10 AM |
I do hope that the people that are ans. these questions have a least a background in Mental health
Well, I will qualify my contributions by telling you that I do not have a background in Mental Health *education*. However, I do have a background of Mental Health *experience*. Does that qualify for this discussion? | |
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| Does Bipolar = Liar?
Posted: 9/14/2008 9:36:58 AM | "t's not that they knowingly lie...
one week they tell you they love you with all their heart.
then two weeks later the say they hate you and you are the worst piece of crap that even walked on the face of the earth. they imagine and accuse of things you've never done. they are paranoid and delusional and drive every one away.
two weeks later they love you and can't remember what they just put you through."
I understand what backwardduck has gone through. I'd relationships with 2 guys like this and they used to take me for a royal ride. Each time I'd lose my temper, and decide to cut them out. I didn't know it was the symptom of being bi polar. One of them did say he's bi-polar, but I never made the effort to study the topic properly.
Because of their mood swings, you also end up changing your attitude towards them, and you'd start wondering if you're also bi-polar. Dangerous! I think in future, I'd prefer to keep away from such guys. | |
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| Does Bipolar = Liar?
Posted: 9/14/2008 12:06:10 PM |
I was just wondering if a compulsion to lie may be part of the bipolar disorder?
Answer = No
Your experience was coincidental. Try going on a bipolar discussion forum and ask this very question. There is a good one in about.com whose members are both bipolars and spouses of bipolars.
However, there is one disorder in which lying is rampant and that is Borderline Personality Disorder. For some reason, BPD and BP get confused and interchanged with eachother, especially on POF forums. Hey, they both start with a "B"; therefore they must be similar. Not. | |
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Posted: 9/14/2008 12:08:51 PM | | Old thread. Didn't realize I'd contributed before. Sorry. | |
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| Does Bipolar = Liar?
Posted: 9/15/2008 12:08:00 AM | | There is a tendency for individuals to immediately classify someone else proclaiming them to have some psychological disorder of some kind or another because they have values, and behaviors that are different than your own or the people you know. Remember that everyone you know and interact with is a micro environment in relation to the U.S. population or world population. Without psychological testing, and evaluation; it is wrong to lable anyone with maladaptivity that hasn't been clinically defined. Someone that lies on occasion is not bipolar or a pathological liar. Everyone lies, everyone there is no one on earth that does not lie about things occasionally. You lie to your kids when you tell them about Santa. I see this everywhere. For example: A mechanic working on an engine with a wrench suddenly looses grip and hurts his hand then throws the wrench on the ground. Is he manic-depressive or is he just normally angry and expressing it. Big difference. We have this tendency to classify human behavior that has reached the limit of our own understand sometimes as being maladaptive; when it fact it is merely an occasional expression of normal agression or some other behavior and perfectly normal. | |
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