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| Advice on a REALLY bad experience with a virgin Posted: 4/13/2007 8:50:41 PM | ^^^^^^^^^ I'd say you're right at this point.
I do feel bad for the guy. Being terrified will make a guy say and do the darndest things. Doesn't help for him to have this thread out there. I'm not sure it's doing anything positive for the OP either. In fact, is this thread to anyone's benefit? | |
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| Advice on a REALLY bad experience with a virgin Posted: 4/14/2007 12:05:35 PM | | Well, that's about how the average deflowering goes, isn't it? Makes me think of mine, hmmmmm well cant remember back that far, but no matter. Just think of it from the flowers point of view. Getting jerked, or worse yet cut, off the stem and then stuck in a vase and made a trophy of. Then all kinds of people come and look at you and smell you. And bees actually suck your pollen off. Oh, the thought of it all.... | |
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| Advice on a REALLY bad experience with a virgin Posted: 4/14/2007 12:32:34 PM | ubkobalt, thanks, I’m glad you got bored.
Okay, some background. On our initial conversations he insulted this 18 year old he had met here because she wore “baby perfume” like strawberry or something fruity, who knows? Our first date he commented on loving my perfume, and said he didn’t bathe that night so he could smell it on him (from our initial making out.) He also gave me two hickeys in the chest area, which was a little odd for me since older men don’t tend to do that, but hey, it was sexy in it’s way. So no way he was allergic to or unhappy with the perfume. He was just nervous and reaching. He later admitted it was the candles he smelled, but later thought it was the perfume that made his tongue go numb. By that time I just said, “I don’t care!” And I don’t. I don’t wear obnoxious amounts of perfume. When I get into an elevator often girls and guys go, “Wow, someone smells nice!“ There are colleagues who only see me once a year and the minute they hug me they go, “Ah roses! I’ve missed that!” So I don’t think I over do it. And I won’t change the only perfume I’ve found in 15 years that doesn’t make me head-achey or sneezy, not for no man.
As for your oratory on oral, lol, what are you doing this weekend? Lol! Your thoughts are EXACTLY what I tried to convey to him. In fact the minute he said, “Tastes salty” I said, “That’s funny, cause pre-cum tastes that way to me, too!” When he retreated to his corner, I got another drink and we talked for 15 minutes about MY experiences with oral. I told him how sometimes it is so wonderful and you want to do it, and sometimes, with the wrong person you feel obligated and onstage, like Debbie Doing Dallas, lol. I can imagine it’s an acquired taste, and frankly, as I told him bluntly, I can take or leave it. He wanted to try it, and I let him. I guess he should get points for trying. It was also the first time he’d ever seen one. In retrospect I should just said “wait,” but it was supposed to have been his night, sigh.
Oh and I should stress I didn’t push him for all this. True I was turned on by the attention, but he seemed VERY hot and heavy to get this done. I thought the big build up and staged set would help him, but I can see I was way wrong. I should have just let things happen naturally, on course, but my schedule is so crazy. Our next chance for an over nighter might have been weeks! So . . . The director in me took over. Sigh.
Thank you (and everyone) for taking the time to talk to me about all this.
Rap
P.S. And Moonfish, he was only bad when it got down to the deed. He was really good at the making out stuff. But the rudeness was always there, and I had reprimanded him for poking fun at other people. That was the ultimate turn off, not bad technique. Sadly he will suffer for both, though. | |
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| Advice on a REALLY bad experience with a virgin Posted: 4/14/2007 1:18:04 PM | | This guy's on POF???? Geez, I feel sorry for him if he reads this. I think that's the one bad part about forums. You never know when someone is going to get a burr in their a** and come on here and say all kinds of negative crap about you. I can only imagine how hurt he'd be to read this. | |
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| Advice on a REALLY bad experience with a virgin Posted: 4/14/2007 6:53:48 PM | Rapunz...
This thread jumped out at me again, and I have a serious take on this. This guy is seriously disturbed. Sorry to be the Simon Cowell of POF, but this is not even close to normal behavior. You seem to have really tried to accomodate him, and I hope it was more than just so you could say (or think) I did it. But his reaction (or lack therof) looks to be some serious issues that he has with his own self image. Most of the stuff you describe such as "denigrating others to make yourself feel better" indicate the self image problem too.
There is one thing to keep in mind. YOU CAN NOT FIX ANYBODY! This is the most common mistake women make. (Men on the other hand just try to order women around!) So, for you to worry about him is fruitless. He needs professional help.
Hope he gets it. | |
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| Advice on a REALLY bad experience with a virgin Posted: 4/14/2007 7:23:55 PM |
This guy's on POF???? Geez, I feel sorry for him if he reads this. I think that's the one bad part about forums. You never know when someone is going to get a burr in their a** and come on here and say all kinds of negative crap about you. I can only imagine how hurt he'd be to read this.
I am totally with you on this one. Sorry OP but i think that you should have discussed this with your mates rather than posting it on here for the poor fecker to read... He will see from your profile that you have posted this and is probably mortified | |
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| Advice on a REALLY bad experience with a virgin Posted: 4/14/2007 7:28:08 PM | Arugula,
This guy copies and pastes things from other people's profiles and lists them on his profile as examples of "stupid people." After exhaustingly searching other folk's profiles for things to lampoon I seriously doubt he takes the time to read the profiles. If he did he'd just find them too "stupid" for his superior intellect.
And trust me, I could never hurt him as badly as he hurt me that night. His blatant rudeness trumped any further consideration from me.
Rap | |
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| Advice on a REALLY bad experience with a virgin Posted: 4/14/2007 9:04:25 PM | The layers of clothing, if you're not being facetious, is definitely unusual to say the least. Bad sexual technique? At least he got it up his first time. But he sounds like he had no concept that he should make an effort to be romantic even if he didn't know what the hell he was doing.
Anyway, if you're looking for good sex, the virgin guys will probably get pissy with me, but stay away from them. It takes a few months to get decent I think, after that the curve drops, and I think its more about finding what your individual partner likes. But if you've never had it before, its pretty much guaranteed to be not so great. And if you do do a virgin again, lowkey is best. I think my problem my first time was my gf made me wait so long and built it up to such a momentous occasion that I felt really pressured. We actually worked it out and I think she would agree we had a good sex life, but it didn't start off great. | |
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| Advice on a REALLY bad experience with a virgin Posted: 4/15/2007 1:14:09 AM | Dear OP, what on Earth possessed you to date a 27 year old virgin in the firstplace? A 27 year old virgin!!!
I think that your troubles, however "shocking" they may have been for you, are not to be unexpected when a woman decides to go to bed with a man who is still a virgin at 27! Sorry to say, the guy acted like a ... 27 year old virgin, so the fault was yours to begin with. What on Earth were you thinking or expecting from the first time of a guy who has "waited" until the age of 27 to sleep with a woman?
Let the virgin go on his way and quit whining, IMO! It is ridiculous enough to be a virgin at 27, no need to ridicule the person more, you may cause perm damage! He seems to have acted like a total jerk, but what did you really expect from ... a 27 year old virgin? Honestly! | |
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