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| Okay! That's enough of the expected ESP BS! Rules are, please?
Posted: 4/24/2007 7:10:05 PM | I can't supply any sort of rules, however... to me, 'hanging out' means just that. Like, buddies hang out. However, I do have alot of male freinds. I have noticed one thing, that sometimes for some men you have to hit them over the head with a club before they knew you were interested. We like to leave hints because we want you to make the first move. It is a sort of natural order of things. Of course, we don't have 'hankies' to drop, or whatever they used to do.
I would say rules would include, but not be limited to:
We will kindly accept all compliments to our hair, how that color brings out our eyes, and mistakenly replacing our first name with 'beautiful' may just be the ticket. Don't, however call everyone that, it cheapens it. We want to feel special. Don't, call us 'hun' unless we are in a long commited relationship (or any other cheezy pet name). Nothing implies "crap" more than chatting with someone and they call you hun. I personally hate that, and know others that do too. It is sort of simple... don't call us hun if we really aren't your hun. If you want to ask us out, see us, etc... ask if it is ok to do so (if you aren't sure). It shows that you respect us enough to not want to offend. Yea, that one is not personally what I like, but I would always respect someone who at first respected me...
Most of all, women are ruled by their emotions. Has nothing to do with pms. I actually get nicer when I am pmsing. Oh and by the way, nothing in the world makes us rebel against someone who can't be the least bit compassionate about our womanhood... fake that part. Trust me. You don't have to even say anything, but a little respect goes a long way. If you had, say.. a leg cramp (exactly equivalent to sporatic charlie horse) and a girl said something to the effect of "Get over yourself, it's time to take accountability for what you expect and want." Just how can you respect such a narrow minded view? Until you can walk in another persons shoes, don't claim to know what it is like. It's simple. You don't. We know it, you know it, so get off your high horse and maybe you can meet someone on the plane of the real world.
Other than that, I would say just be yourself and remember the golden rule. Not everyone is meant to be compatible, and yes there is someone out there for everyone. Whether or not you are ready to find them... is always up to having an open mind, not a closed one. But that is just one persons opinion. I can't speak for us all.
As for your freind, she needs to buck up and ask this guy if he is interested... or tell him some way that she is becoming interested 'in that way'. Or else she will drive herself crazy not knowing and wondering... | |
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Posted: 4/24/2007 7:13:02 PM | kbot7 --- Thanks for your kind reponse to my post, and I'm looking forward to your compiled List of Rules, as advertised. :)
My son, age 23, will return in June from a 10 month journey around the world, mostly to well-loved surf spots. My favorite story from him re: his adventures was about the strange looks he got as he stepped off the plane at Ayers Rock, in the hot and dry Australian outback, with 2 surfboards!
However, when he finally returns home, I'm afraid it might be gorilla-training time again. Sigh.
I read your interesting profile....good luck on your trip. I hope that you'll stay with the POF forums and post occasionally about your adventures while you're gone. | |
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| Okay! That's enough of the expected ESP BS! Rules are, please?
Posted: 4/24/2007 9:21:26 PM | 1) try to hide the fact you're checking a hot chick out while on a date unless you do not want to be there with her what is the need to check out other women?
2)No excretion including but not limited to Puke, snot or urine anywhere but in the toilet, then put the lid down (no one actually said this but probably flush too) snot can go into tissue of some kind lol just disgusting to see it go flying out one nostril to the ground ewwwwwww! flushing is good....stinks the place to high heaven if not and if you have dogs/cats/children well hell infect the animals and bad example to the kids...good way to impress her NOT! She shouldn't have to go behind you to do things...you aren't two after all! lol
3)If you screw up grovel and send flowers APOLOGIZE! I so DETEST grovelling! Flowers shouldn't be just given when you are in the doghouse lol
4)If she ever does anything besides sit on the couch, worship her and tell her what a dream she is What is wrong with just being kind, decent, respectful, honest and loving to her?
5)Don't forget her birthday, anniversary, date of first "date"depends on the woman...some do not really care or her menstral cycle it does help if you can be understanding when hormones are off kilter, we are in massive pain, horny yet cannot enjoy it most of the time due to the pain and edgy because of our body-we did not make our bodies this way: we came this way! Men make it worse because they are assclowns about it.
6)Know her favorite color and buy her semi-precious or precious gems accordingly Not always a bad thing; why not just be attentive? With some women it doesn't matter what the gift is...it is the thought that counts. Although there are some of us when marriage ever becomes a factor that we do appreciate you taking the time and making the effort to pick something that is going to stand the test of time for our finger.
7)Do the housework depends on the woman really-helping is always nice especially if it is a situation where both work
8)Take out the Garbage before it starts to smell ummmmm that IS nice! Some of us have queasy stomachs!
9)Be awesome for HER in bed be yourself and think of her too!
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| Okay! That's enough of the expected ESP BS! Rules are, please?
Posted: 4/24/2007 9:29:11 PM | It's not difficult to make a woman happy. A man only needs to be:
1. A friend
2. A companion
3. A lover
4. A brother
5 a father
6. A master
7 a chef
8. An electrician
9. A carpenter
10. A plumber
11. A mechanic
12. A decorator
13. A stylist
14. A sexologist
15. A gynecologist
16. A psychologist
17. A pest exterminator
18. A psychiatrist
19. A healer
20. A good listener
21. An organizer
22. A good father
23. Very clean
24. Sympathetic
25. Athletic
26. Warm
27. Attentive
28. Gallant
29. Intelligent
30. Funny
31. Creative
32. Tender
33. Strong
34 understanding
35. Tolerant
36. Prudent
37. Ambitious
38. Capable
39. Courageous
40. Determined
41. True
42. Dependable
43. Passionate
44. Compassionate
WITHOUT FORGETTING TO:
45. Give her compliments regularly
46. Love shopping
47. Be honest
48. Be very rich
49. Not stress her out
50. Not look at other girls
AND AT THE SAME TIME, YOU MUST ALSO:
51. Give her lots of attention, but expect
little yourself
52. Give her lots of time, especially time for herself
53. Give her lots of space, never worrying about where she goes
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT:
54. Never to forget:
* birthdays
* anniversaries
* arrangements she makes
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| Okay! That's enough of the expected ESP BS! Rules are, please?
Posted: 4/24/2007 10:41:50 PM | I'll kill my own spiders, thank you. Bait my own hook too, and dig the worms to get the bait, and kill the mouse in the barn with a hoe handle--pesky critters--chop the head off the copperhead snake with a grubbin hoe, and toss the king snake back in the barn so he can keep on eating mice, Saddle my own horse and whistle up the dog and go bring in the cattle, Give the cattle their shots, come back and change the flat tire on the truck and go to town for a carborator part I need to fix--come home clean up, cook a good hearty cholesterol loaded supper of grass-fed, home raised meat, wash the dishes and knit a new sweather and listen to some music.
I raised a house full of boys that could do all the above, plus they knew how to keep a house clean, iron their own clothes, and one even learned to knit his own hunting mittens.
Country girls RULE and can get the job done, whatever it is---but like the song says, "When we get behind closed doors....we let our hair hang down" | |
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Posted: 4/24/2007 10:57:13 PM | It's not difficult to make a woman/man happy. A man/woman only needs to be:
1. A friend
2. A companion
3. A lover
The ones below are part and parcel of the ones above. . . .
20. A good listener
26. Warm
29. Intelligent
30. Funny
31. Creative
32. Tender
35. Tolerant
41. True
42. Dependable
43. Passionate
44. Compassionate
47. Be honest
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And if that's hard, perhaps one needs to practice being human a bit more?
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| Okay! That's enough of the expected ESP BS! Rules are, please?
Posted: 4/24/2007 11:15:09 PM | Just look at the Guys representing the Home Side!! 
And they say men don't "get" women. 
You all just went NUTS while I was working. Perfect.
I would like to add one rule of my own at this point. Not sure where it's going to wind up on the list. But I'm convinced that it has saved my life and goodies more than once!
If you notice that your sweet little Sugarplum seems to have joined forces with the legions of the evil and psychotic, you must at all costs enter the door holding out;
1: Bag of Salt & Vinegar chips.
2: The biggest freakin' chocolate bar that you can find.
Don't say a damned thing. Just cower in the corner until the carnage is over. Once she's finished with the Dawn of the Dead impression, warily approach for a hug, if she wants you to put out you'd BETTER be ready! | |
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| Okay! That's enough of the expected ESP BS! Rules are, please?
Posted: 4/25/2007 12:22:37 AM | Hey everyone! Howzabout something for the "kid" issue? I'm not getting any younger, and there's a whole new dynamic to dating in one's thirties. I'm sure the next few posts are going to get bloody, but, what the hey...
What do you mean?
Country girls RULE and can get the job done, whatever it is---but like the song says, "When we get behind closed doors....we let our hair hang down"
Amen Sister ;) But I don't kill spiders or any animal unless it is going to harm my children or is mamed or dying. Or for food if need be :)
I think I've just been Neutered....
OMG, not sure if I like it....will let you know =(
Kevin
If that is aimed at me I am terribly sorry if you were offended? I did not mean too, I was just commenting on your list from my perspective :) 
If you notice that your sweet little Sugarplum seems to have joined forces with the legions of the evil and psychotic, you must at all costs enter the door holding out;
1: Bag of Salt & Vinegar chips.
2: The biggest freakin' chocolate bar that you can find.
Don't say a damned thing. Just cower in the corner until the carnage is over. Once she's finished with the Dawn of the Dead impression, warily approach for a hug, if she wants you to put out you'd BETTER be ready!
You need to stop focusing on lists Kbot and start paying attention to THE WOMAN HERSELF!!!!!!!! Might help | |
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Posted: 4/25/2007 12:37:04 AM | I try to avoid that at all costs Rocky.
Saves me the trouble of waking up screaming in the night.
Pay just enough attention to duck when necessary, but not enough to realize the pan-dimensional shift in realities, that's my motto. I admit, it's a mouthful, but I'm working on it. | |
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| Okay! That's enough of the expected ESP BS! Rules are, please?
Posted: 4/25/2007 12:42:26 AM |
I try to avoid that at all costs Rocky.
Saves me the trouble of waking up screaming in the night.
well if you did not try to avoid that the screaming might be from a cosmic orgasm because someone that absolutely adores you and can see past the times that you do mess up in the little things gives as much as you could if you'd just try 
When a woman has someone that is there for her the little things (and I do mean the little things) do not count as much as you are making them out to be :) | |
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Posted: 4/25/2007 4:35:57 AM | brown: Kbot has put us under orders to come up with all the things that a lady likes a man to be, to do. It is an exercise for both men & women (the men volunteered to participate, we the women were demanded to be present! ). Yes of course we have loaded him with oodles, I don't remember anyone being upset, this is just a mental exercise. We have done all the work while Kbot whipped his whip forcing us on to bigger and better things.
Now we are seeking our prize of a completely regurgitated list of all particulars in two lists. One list will be in alphabetical order and the second list which may take some time will be composed of all of list one BUT in order of importance &/or impact.
He has shown us his tenacity in getting the information out of us all, NOW he has to pay the price = voila compiling all for us all to reference just in case anyone overlooks anything.
In the interim, several females have fallen head over heals in love with Kbot, which I am suspicious that he might have known would happen. All are happy, irritated sometimes but happy none the less. I think that even some of the men have learned from this exercise and I know that it has cleaned out some cobwebs in my brain cavity. | |
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| Okay! That's enough of the expected ESP BS! Rules are, please?
Posted: 4/25/2007 6:13:43 AM | Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of;
1.Most mentioned, ( in order of popularity ) 
2.Personal favorites, ( the ones that made me snort beverages  onto my laptop, this sucker's never going to be the same again )
3.A guy's interpretation, ( that should be the fun one )
Going to take me a little time though, well over a week, I need to get myself relocated to Tasu Sound.  Just started researching my trip to Africa as well.
In the meantime, and inbetween time, keep 'em coming! How about something on footwear? Seems to be quite the conversation starter amongst the estrogen-sect. Or maybe something on grooming, we've had a bit, but is plumber's butt REALLY dead? Perhaps some items on how to be a proper escort at family and corporate functions?
Whatever you wish to heap upon me will be recieved with thanks, possibly even approbation,  and who doesn't like a little of that? | |
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Posted: 4/25/2007 6:18:36 AM | There is a list but I dont know where I last read it, it goes on about such things as if a woman asks does my bum look big in this then she doesn't really want the answer unless it is NO, the whole thing is quite humerous and maybe someone has a copy they could post,
another one is something like "if you tell us (men) that you dont need anything we will believe you" saying you dont want to watch anything on TV we will believe you and watch the game, we (men) dont understand you really mean sit and watch 'days of our live with us' and hold our hand.etc etc someone will have it and if you follow that list doing the opposite to the expected male response then you can't go wrong. You are completely going down the wrong track expecting women to give you the answers because it is in fact us men that have our to do lists | |
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Posted: 4/25/2007 6:32:34 AM | Ah damn Kbot7, I tried I really did but I just can't be emasculated by woman's demands on my or "Men's" behaviors. Here is the antithasis (pretty sure I slaughtered that one):
1) I will embarass you in public if I think it'd be funny
2) "Of course it's funny, I'm LMAO!!"
3) Writing my name in the snow IS cool, just hard as hell to dot the I =D
4) Air, Food, Cable TV, Sex in that order (Unless convinced otherwise)
5) High-5, head or Belly butting is mandatory whenever guys get together
6) Okay, I take my glasses off if we go out and I'll never see the hottie walking past...
I AM a guy, I'm wild and untamed, my base emotions will more than likely guide my actions and reactions. I will try to be attentive, Kind and considerate. If I screw up "whoops" MEAN so sorry I really really didn't MEAN it....
I won't watch for subtle signals from the Ladies, if she wants or needs something she can come out and say it, otherwise reference 2nd Profile pic. If she says nothing is wrong I will take that to mean NOTHING is wrong, otherwise reference 2nd profile pic. Life is WAY too short for me to walk on eggshells around anyone. I am who I am if you love it then great, if not, reference....
ImJustMeKevin | |
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Posted: 4/25/2007 9:03:45 AM | I have to ask...
how come everyone wants to kill spiders?
I just capture them and put them outside if the
weather is nice...and leave them alone if it isn't.
Spiders don't bother me...well unless they are the big
kind that can eat you...in that case Id capture them and
mail them to someone else.
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Posted: 4/25/2007 9:44:57 AM | Okay, Kevin, I rescind the marriage proposal--not only are you young enough to be my son (for which I would forgive you) but, BUT I really think you don't do all that nice long list of stuff the perfect man would do so, folks you heard it first here--the wedding is OFF. so there!
Kbot--the women and men here have given you the potential PhD in "what women want" and I think you are just too dense to get it! I really think you should actually consider S & M as a new hobby and maybe you could find some cutie who would dress up in black leather and "educate" you--I've never done that kind of thing--unless you count giving birth to male children, but I never did dress up in the leathers when I tried to educate them, but I did hold a little peach tree switch sometimes. Never could figure out with my housefull of boys why that tree finally died...anyway...ended up raising two out of three really good ones so I guess I did all right.
Have fun on your move/trip! | |
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Posted: 4/25/2007 5:47:22 PM |
Guitar Guy if you really believe all of that then I have a lot of sympathy for you...no offence and I wish you the best of luck
LOL none taken, it was meant to be funny *smile*
Seriously though, if a woman wants something, TELL ME. We are not mind readers. Don't drop hints because we are by and large clueless. Hit us over the head, let us know!!! I'm no good at guessing games. | |
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Posted: 4/25/2007 6:58:16 PM | It's called communication. That's one of my rules.
If I do something or don't do something and it bothers you, ask me what's up. I'll do the same.
It's really simple:
There's what actually happened/didn't happen.
And then there's our "story" about what happened. What we made it mean.
If my friend does something and I wanna make it mean something I stop and say, "Listen, you just did (x) and I made it mean (y). What did you really mean?" | |
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Posted: 4/25/2007 11:32:59 PM |
LOL none taken, it was meant to be funny *smile*
whew! you had me worried there for a minute. 
Seriously though, if a woman wants something, TELL ME. We are not mind readers. Don't drop hints because we are by and large clueless. Hit us over the head, let us know!!! I'm no good at guessing games.
I agree totally here with you; I'm direct and tell it how I want/need it and expect the man (whomever that ends up being) in my life to do the same. Communication is EVERYTHING then comes compromise...without it and trust, you are just fukk buddies under the same roof. No fun to me | |
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Posted: 4/25/2007 11:41:38 PM | First, women don't make the rules.
Second, dating is a game, how soon can a guy get ass /how many dinners and gifts can she get out of him before she gives up the ass.
if she decides to play she needs to be in 100% not um, like, well, i think i kind of...
we dont have time for that, there are other girls waiting. | |
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