| what does the term a strong woman mean to you?
Posted: 4/14/2007 11:36:55 PM | One sign of a strong woman, is a female who doesn't feel the need to announce that she's strong! To me, strength is a part of your character - your ability to not waiver from your values and your ability to handle difficult situations without getting completely flustered.
I suppose a lot of people might say that they're independent, strong-willed (a.k.a. stubborn) and they don't need a man; therefore, they're strong! To me, that's a cop out. We all need people. Being stubborn shows your inability to open your mind to new ideas. Sometimes the strongest thing you can do is ask for help or admit that you need someone/something. Just my opinion... | |
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| what does the term a strong woman mean to you?
Posted: 4/15/2007 2:31:48 AM | | I consider myself a strong woman, meaning that I am independant in thought and in deed. Meaning that I dont look to a man to support me, but to enjoy life with me. | |
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| what does the term a strong woman mean to you?
Posted: 4/15/2007 8:28:15 AM | David...that was perfect! You are the first man on here to really get it! Bravo! I'm far from being a CEO....put I am an exec in a rather high profile job....just posted 'Are men uncomfortable with women who make more money, are execs, or have high profile positions'....a modified version of the OPs thread would have been much better....It went from that topic to...can I manage my money. what I buy with my money, the size of my home, the car I drive, and if it's a power trip, and even a few about 'kept' men....I am positive that had the post been worded the opposite way...those rude, biased comments would not have come up. Here is a quote that says it best:"A strong woman won't let anyone get the best of her, but a woman of strength will give the besrt of herself to everyone." Thanks again for the post...it was awesome. | |
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| what does the term a strong woman mean to you?
Posted: 4/15/2007 9:29:59 AM | Being strong has ABSOLUTELY CRAP WEAZEL to do with your occupation, your car-engine-size, or the price of your kitten heels, or haute couture shoulder-pads: these are superficial acroutements - limp parsely on a dead salmon waiting to be devoured by those with a pocketbook!
We can learn from the salmon's courageous journey against the tide.
... It is pure unadulterated SPIRITUAL inner power and conviction. It is about integrity, and 'to Thine SELF - BE-ing TRUE'... it cuts across genders and it dismisses the age or your sexual preferences.
It is self-sacrificial, (Jesus) and will present itself knowingly to step up to the plate in the face of harm to it's loved ones, (Joan of Arc) and it may appear to strike out of no-where like a lightening rod, from the gentlest of demeanors in the most intelligently directed torpedo... (Ghandi)
When you in the precence of strength, you know it, (Mohammed) do not doubt it's source or are you are disenchanted by it. (Martin Luthor King)
When it finds you, it supports without suppression, (Mandela) and comforts without manipulation, (moreover, there is an inner beauty that radiates effortlessly from it's magnetic diamondclear gaze (Buddha) ... Yet it can be softness and the shine will then be pearlised.
Whatever colour or hue it is found in any creature whatever their curcumstances and in the greatest challenging adversities it is at its most exquisite. | |
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| what does the term a strong woman mean to you?
Posted: 4/15/2007 12:16:53 PM | Momiloco has so far best described what a "Strong Woman" really is and oddly enough it is exactly the same as a "Strong Man".
Where CEO enters in makes no sense, if she got to that position through backstabbing, callous and shallow behaviour who would want to share a life of that? Now if she gets there through skill determination and ambition, how could that be a threat to anyone?
A job is not a person and if that job is their entire identity ........ | |
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| what does the term a strong woman mean to you?
Posted: 4/15/2007 1:02:29 PM | Icesphinx, you don't need to show off just how many big words and special people you can put in a single post.
All it takes is a little distillation of the truth into it's purest form.
A strong woman is a strong man. Strength is physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual. Without one of them, the others do suffer, and we all know it in our hearts.
If a woman can fix her own home, figure her own taxes, solve her own issues, and live a unique spiritual life, and can do all of this without feeling disdain for others, nor the need for their company, she is strong.
A man is strong by the same principles. I am not a strong man. I have integrity, spirituality, and mental power, but it is untrained and arrogant power. Besides that, my physical power is all but nonexistent, due to my young focus on the other three areas of myself.
There has never been a perfectly strong man or woman in the front pages of history, because such legendary fame is, itself, an example of one's imbalance of character. A strong man does not become president. A strong man becomes the president's friend, adviser, and confidante.
Thus lies the paradox of true strength. It is the ultimate balance: between both extremes, and between balance and extremity themselves.
~ David | |
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| what does the term a strong woman mean to you?
Posted: 4/15/2007 1:04:20 PM |
I suppose a lot of people might say that they're independent, strong-willed (a.k.a. stubborn) and they don't need a man; therefore, they're strong! To me, that's a cop out. We all need people. Being stubborn shows your inability to open your mind to new ideas. Sometimes the strongest thing you can do is ask for help or admit that you need someone/something. Just my opinion...
Just want to say I think this is brilliantly said! Thank you so much for putting that all into words far better than I ever could lol. But I really do agree completely with that and so many people seem to get hung up on having needs being some kind of sign of "weakness" and it's like no you've got it so backwards the fact that a person can admit that and not be ashamed of it shows they have mastery over themselves and their feelings! I come right out and say in my profile that I need help right now and I am not in the least ashamed of it. Why deny it and therefore let it have control over me? No way, in coming out and facing things it is the most fearless, brave and strong thing a person can do, in my opinion:) | |
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Posted: 4/15/2007 5:54:36 PM | Guardian_Of_Gaea on 4/15/2007 9:02:29 PM
Subject: what does the term a strong woman mean to you?
Message: Icesphinx, you don't need to show off just how many big words and special people you can put in a single post.
All it takes is a little distillation of the truth into it's purest form.
Wot 'big words', it is wot I speak like! yur posting looks like my posting cos it just such simple langwich... I used names that everyone knows, and wouldn't confuse anyone cos it was easy to do it... yur pursonal attak is a bit weak, when you didn't distill the trooth in a simple way yourself, funny man!
Actooly you rehashed my commint... it seems like. But wot do I know, I am jest a namedropping wordypurson unlike a simpleton - sorry I mean simple man like yoo.
As for no purfictly strong men or women in historee? I laughed so loud at that one I nearly fell off the chair.
Yep arrogance is one key recognisubble qualitee yoo has David!
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As a footnote: cos clearly being an articulate, assertive female able to string a few sentences together appears to cause opposition sometimes and negative labels...
The best line was that the (some?) leaders are weak and their right hand henchman is strong, not merely cunning, lacking in charisma or possibly those attractive qualities that propel a nation to vote blindly for surface laminated chipboard veneer?
NO STRONG PERSON WOULD HIDE BEHIND ANYONE, PARTICULARLY UNSCRUPILOUS OR WEAK LEADERSHIP.
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| what does the term a strong woman mean to you?
Posted: 4/15/2007 6:52:54 PM | | Some strong women feel the need to state it in their profile because certain guys want weak, submissive women. I don't feel the need to waste my time or theirs. Straight forward. | |
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Posted: 4/15/2007 6:58:54 PM | You are correct in that my attack on you was uncalled for, and I apologize.
I did not make that attack because you were asserting yourself. I made it because you seemed to be using truisms, rather than bits of wisdom, to state your point.
I did not rehash your comment, nor did I intend to. I did reply to it by using a similar format and order of counterpoints, but that is a very common (and appropriate) way to make a counter-argument on a forum.
EDIT: Upon further study of your reply to my second contribution to this forum, I should remind you that mockery is completely inappropriate in all but the most friendly gestures it could demonstrate.
I felt that your use of celebrity figures (however worthy of their glory and fame, have no doubt: they're all heroes of mine) was a little cheesy, and you simply came off as someone trying to prove more than their point.
None of this excuses the first sentence of my post, however. That is something I totally and unabashedly agree with. I am sorry.
I think you do have good things to say, however. You are correct that it is only some leaders and some behind-the-scenes advisers who are acting as puppets or puppetmasters, respectively. I think, in fact, that such a point exceeds my own in pertinence to the subject, especially considering the current candidacy of Hillary Clinton (let's not beat around the Bush... sexist pun not intended; liberal pun fully intended).
I simply hope you can see past these mistakes of mine and realize that for them you were able to make statements more profound than your original one.
~ David | |
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| what does the term a strong woman mean to you?
Posted: 4/16/2007 1:12:43 AM |
I simply hope you can see past these mistakes of mine and realize that for them you were able to make statements more profound than your original one.
~ David
Aaaah David, David:
You humble me - that I could weep!
thank you ever so much for your specificity, for localising my comments, for accusations (arrogant) to accuse me of lacking wisdom, for your patronising self justification - for pointing out quite sneakily ...
... That there are appropriate and glaring roles of format for replying, and we should all be aware of them and therefore your rational for continuing to self-applauding when in your opinion it is a common way of the warrior to fight mudslinging with mudslinging and like with like.
As a creative individual, therefore, I do not think one needs to adopt surreptitious mimicry as a limited means to prove onself a stronger force, I just encourage others to continue to BE.
In fact I embrace the notion that individuals, applying their own individuality to dialogue, are being true unto themselves.
Instead of just proving your points you deemed to stoop to my low level of ignorance, like most armchair sportsmen.
Thank you for declaring that my offerings of the least contentious, remarkable religious/spiritual leaders were 'cheesy', aaaah and all under a weak vanilla flag of truce and supposed humility for a backhanded apology...
....That then went on to conceitedly encourage with self-proclaimed superior intellect, me, to try to be more 'profound’ and less obvious in the future.
You are eighteen going on nineteen? Right, only a fool thinks he is wiser, and then he is, a true Wiseman knows he is a fool, and would see wisdom, even in the ant carrying a grain of rice and comprehend with dignity the enormous gift of comprehension and clarity within that single act.
Elevating your own mind by degrading another doesn't convince anyone of your assumed intelligence.
Please, please help me to find the way through my glaring stupidity and lack of perspicuity... I am riveted to the screen waiting for your next narcisstic ****slapper...
Meantime, this is a fun; I was getting bored on here, looking for a fruitive activity, between yawning and sleeping with one eye open, and here you are a delicate morsel of soft nail-prodding, juicy man meat.
Purrrr
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| what does the term a strong woman mean to you?
Posted: 4/16/2007 10:20:52 AM | Dave your probably going to turn out to be an interesting guy when your fully grown up, emotionally and spiritually. You do have a lot of intellectual acuity, but until, as you said
your-self 'your arrogance', is tempered by having more experience of Life, it hurts, it sorrows it joys you might consider reflecting on what you say, as without the unfoldment of feelings and understanding dry intellect won't make you happy, and I guess you want to be a happy man? who can give and receive love?.
I can see your an intelligent guy and you already, for one so young, recognize icesphinx as that strong-intelligent-women but really its pointless trying to jump up to her and stand on the shoulders of maturity, creativity and elegance.... really you don't need to prove your self in this way, and you shouldn't feel threatened by individuals who are strong, you don't need to try and undermine strength and intelligence to feel secure in your-self, just go about learning, feeling and living and one day your develop your own unique voice, one that people will respect and love you for.
Andy. | |
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| what does the term a strong woman mean to you?
Posted: 4/16/2007 10:31:13 AM | | To me, it means someone who is not easily intimidated by society, life or men. Someone who may have had many tribulations with the above in her past but instead of whollowing in self pity over the experiences used the journey and learned from them. In turn, making her strong. Someone not afraid to live, love and go after her own dreams - regardless of what the world thinks. She is happy and complete within herself all on her own and is now ready to share her life and love with someone else. Someone who can now come into her life and COMPLIMENT it and the woman she already is, rather than complicate it. | |
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| what does the term a strong woman mean to you?
Posted: 4/16/2007 10:33:17 AM | DAVE !!
Really it's O.k
If you don't understand artistry with words, or that you haven't developed that ability, of concepts and feelings, embedded in the extended flourishing sentence, don't get upset with yourself if you mind falters and fades from full comprehension, Just let your intuition form impressions of feelings, hues and shades and subtle resonances within poetic words, your be a richer chap if you do... you don't have to deny yourself these things just because you feel their voluminous and powerful | |
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| what does the term a strong woman mean to you?
Posted: 4/16/2007 2:15:59 PM | Perhaps it is a language issue... But I associate the word "strong" with strength...
(physical, mental, emotional... )... I also associate strength with power...
So... by ricochet, strong women are those with power?...
The strong women I have met are the ones that are able to look at the big picture. Take decisions that may not be popular for the well being of the group and stick to her values and beliefs in the face of adversity. She is able to adapt and yes, sometimes ADMIT she made a mistake and apologize and go on with the learning curve of life.
So, I then associate them to be natural leaders... strength, power and leadership...
I am just musing... I have not met many in my life... I often times find women are their own worst enemy... We seem to have a chatterbox in our heads that makes us unable to focus sometimes... Ok... I speak for myself only... 
The film "What women want" is a good example of what I mean...
Anyway... I do seem to live my life... sort like... "lead, follow or get out of my way..."
 No... I am not assertive in an agressive way... I thread lightly but keep going forward and I am patient... so so patient...
Just an opinion... | |
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| what does the term a strong woman mean to you?
Posted: 4/16/2007 2:30:12 PM | | yep hit the nail on the head there, a strong woman is a independant woman that can stand on her own 2 feet and pay the bills sort the kids out without the aid ov a man, ..mite not be wot she wanted to happen but respect to the strong woman that holds things togeather, !! | |
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| what does the term a strong woman mean to you?
Posted: 4/16/2007 2:35:35 PM | | A woman that doesnt need a man around but wounldt mind meeting a guy that treats with more dignity than that of eye candy. Maybe im off, i dunno for sure....... | |
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| what does the term a strong woman mean to you?
Posted: 4/16/2007 2:35:58 PM | | A woman that doesnt need a man around but wounldt mind meeting a guy that treats with more dignity than that of eye candy. Maybe im off, i dunno for sure....... | |
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| what does the term a strong woman mean to you?
Posted: 4/16/2007 2:42:28 PM | | to me it is a woman who is self confident but she knows how to be a lady....she doesnt wear plaid coats chew tobacco go deer hunting and brawl with men and have a mustache. | |
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| what does the term a strong woman mean to you?
Posted: 4/16/2007 3:17:14 PM | | I knew a little country gal a long time ago who was an excellent broomball player. She could also split a cord of wood in an afternoon and had a squeezebox that she knew how to play very well. Too bad it didn't work out. She'll remain in my memory. | |
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| what does the term a strong woman mean to you?
Posted: 4/16/2007 4:11:58 PM | Leave me be, leave me be. I already said I made a mistake.
Don't worry, I know how to be poetic. It's just easier for me when I'm in a state of infatuation or better.
I would like to be able to see what others have to say, instead of hearing a periodic shot at my ego.
Just because it was inflated doesn't mean it's still inflated.
Just because there is a bubble doesn't mean you need to fully burst it.
Leave me be.
~ David
Edit:
VVV God, that is a hero... | |
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