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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 7/27/2007 11:19:53 AM | He shaves for the third time and examines his face in the mirror from every angle. Flexing briefly, he buttons his shirt wondering if she will be worth maintaining a facade.
She meets him at the restaurant, self-assured and stunning. She has no trouble holding eye contact through the date, except when his eyes drop from hers to her chest several times in as many minutes. He is just a man — she holds no animosity. She knew he would look and would have been surprised if he'd shown more class than what she has come to see as the average.
She has already decided in the first five minutes of his posturing that she isn't interested in sleeping with him or getting to know more about him. If she slept with him, he'd be the type to ask her "So how was I?" The steak is good though. But if her date tries to be any sweeter, she is going to have to make an appointment with her dentist. She prefers the chameleon at home in the glass cage and wonders, as she and her date click glasses in the candlelight, if she has enough crickets to feed it when she gets home. The thought makes her laugh a little on the inside.
He sees the laugh in her eyes and thinks that what he is doing is working. His hand surreptitiously fingers the condom in the pocket of his trousers and he bestows upon her his most warm and charming smile. As he reaches for her hand, the waitress is passing their table. His date catches her eye and makes the motion for "check please".
He is smug and self assured as he leans back and smiles at her, head tilted to one side in what he believes is his most boyishly charming look. He has practiced it many times in the mirror. When the waitress returns with the check, his date slides it over to herself and examines it.
He frowns inwardly — this is unexpected. Then relaxes. What a bonus! He will take her home and bang the hell out of her and get a free dinner too! SCORE! He mentally gives himself a High Five.
He leans forward, expecting to take her hand in his and tell her something about her eyes or her skin or ... something. But she has other plans and deftly dodges him, excusing herself to the ladies room.
Visions of her naked on his bed, writhing and crying out fill his mind while he waits for her to come back. The waitress returns with the receipt for dinner and he quickly takes a peek to see how much she just spent on him. He smiles thinking what a great night this is going to be.
His date comes back to the table and he remembers to rise to greet her like a gentleman. After tomorrow he'll be able to drop the act, and after all, she did buy dinner. He hears the cellophane of the condom wrapper whisper to him from his pocket as he stands wondering if he'll have to pay for her taxi home later.
She has her coat in her arms and is taking her keys from her purse.
"Thank you for a lovely time. I have an early morning and have to go." She kisses him on his cheek, smiles and walks away.
The waitress returns to the table.
"Will there be anything else for you tonight, Sir?"
Mind racing, confusion threatening to take over, he glances at the waitress and notices for the third time that night how low her shirt is cut...
"Well I guess that depends on you, Darlin'." | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 7/27/2007 11:52:39 AM | From the OP's original post, #1:
She dresses carefully to attract his attention, and he wonders what she looks like without clothes. She wants to look deep into his eyes, but he's looking down at her chest. She imagines dinner with candles, and he imagines them writhing in bed. She is ruled by her heart, and he is ruled by the vision of two legs spread wide apart. She is honest and sincere, and he puts on an elaborate act. In the end--if he plays his part well--he gets what he's after. And she...well...she hopes this time it will be different. What is it that women don't seem to get? Or are they, too, just playing a part?
Commenting of Post #224 which she as a struggling Christian(which all of us Christians have our Bear to Cross) said:
The op is describing a testosterone imbalanced, sexual predator, a serial rapist who misleads and uses fraud and deception to get laid, a scary sex offender, or an unclean sex sampler, a serial seducer, a womanizer, a love rome-o con man, a serial sex addict guy who needs medical intervention, or a sexual hit and run artist. High risk sex adicted guys like op get and spread crabs, NOT the eating kind, the guys like op get and give syphilis, herpes, gonnorhea, monoucleosis, viral warts, and lots of other funky sti diseases that lead to syphilis brain infections, ugly skin sores, skin tags, early heart diseases, early strokes, early paralysis, early dementia, vision loss, birth defected children, etc. etc. etc. Bill Gates committe on Global Heath Care wrtote reports that promiscuous guys like op spread all deadly disease on the globe. see "Bill Gates global health care report", online, use as" "as keywords.
Fellow forum members, it is very easy to get distracted or get sidetracked in these discussions, can we **Stay on the Original Question or Post** as in post #1? Otherwise you know what will happen to this subject as it will get deleted or it will end!
Sister in Christ and members of our forum, where do you get this 'Way-Out' extreme scenario of the OP by his original statement? 
We understand *If* his profile is true, that he has a non-religious or Atheistic philosophy and possible a belief in science or he is in the quest of disproving false conclusions of society to find empirical facts. To 'blow it so far out there', isn't that like saying all atheists are totally criminal? I mean sister in Christ, wasn't C.S. Lewis(Author of the 'Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe') an aetheist before he became a monotheist(One God)?
In case you gals and guys have not figured it out aren't all of us males:
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I mean look at us sweethearts don't we run around like the Buck deer, the Bull Elk, the Bull Buffaloe, *symbolicly* with our erect sexual organ on our forehead?
Aren't we mere males trying to impress everybody with look at my fancy vehicle(symbolic vibrator to impress females) like a corvette, Harley motorcycle, Cadillac, etc..?
Like, look at my territory like my wife's home she lets me live in?
Or, look at my muscles, my great job, of which I acheived so much?
And you don't think the Bible **warns** strongly against dressing like a woman of vile motives, *too seductive* for no reason due to the male hormonal urges do you?
Sister in Christ, I think you need to counsel with several pastors and elder women in your Church or related denominational Authorities; because this is 'Extreme' in your perception isn't it! | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 7/27/2007 12:45:39 PM | From post #216 in reply to my post prior:
As HIS homemaker???? OMG you are THE most sexist person I have ever encountered in this century.
One totally devoid of respect and admiration of a spouse in life.
It is very strange to me how when one makes a stand, someone near invisible can or will take a 'sniper type' shot at the other. Most of my female comrades say, an individual, espeacially a woman who puts out *No Pictures* and little in there profile is 'very deceptive and they are definitely a *trap*! They could be anything, a 'webb transvestite'(one of opposite gender poses as a female, even have several profiles') who knows. grin big time
But thanks for the compliment, I do echoe my celestial nature, and many do recognize it takes a female chauvenist(feminist) to notice my non-impotent stance of masculinity. Yep, no temptation to touch a male sexually by this varmit!
*IF* one didn't jump to conclusions on one post, and knew my late wife and true allys, one could not say your last sentence unless they were shallow, could they?
And your gals have not been bought off by theose confused males among us, who don't understand the difference between 'games' and 'roles' as you use only your sexuality to create a dealy snare. Some of us see the 'Black Widow Spider webb' that Hefner himself has been caught in.
And will not the divine Judge who created this universe, symbolicly swing the sickle as the grim reaper one day visits all of us, dosen't he sweetheart?  | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 7/27/2007 2:15:13 PM | WOW, people, people... this thread could have been an interesting look at the roles both women and men play in dating and the dance they do with their expectations. I'm kind of blown away by the feeding frenzy here in bashing. whew.
Some posts are really quite thought provoking, but it takes an enormous effort to wade through the self righteous anger to get to them.
Chill pill anyone? | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 7/27/2007 3:52:50 PM | The op is describing a testosterone imbalanced, sexual predator, a serial rapist who misleads and uses fraud and deception to get laid, a scary sex offender, or an unclean sex sampler, a serial seducer, a womanizer, a love rome-o con man, a serial sex addict guy who needs medical intervention, or a sexual hit and run artist. High risk sex adicted guys like op get and spread crabs, NOT the eating kind, the guys like op get and give syphilis, herpes, gonnorhea, monoucleosis, viral warts, and lots of other funky sti diseases that lead to syphilis brain infections, ugly skin sores, skin tags, early heart diseases, early strokes, early paralysis, early dementia, vision loss, birth defected children, etc. etc. etc. Bill Gates committe on Global Heath Care wrtote reports that promiscuous guys like op spread all deadly disease on the globe. see "Bill Gates global health care report", online, use as" "as keywords.
Sounds like the demetia and stupidity about infectious disease transmission has already set in for op.
I think this just sums up what OP is indicating in his thread .
You sleep around , you pay a price sometimes with your health and character .
One type of delusions and fantasy leads to another untill the sin of it all has you in control like a drug addict .
The more you get the more you want !!   | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 7/27/2007 7:36:00 PM | | amoured knight: i agree with you that the lady you were referring to is being extreme in her comments, however arent you also being extreme in your perception of women?...as well as using sarcasm and patronizing the female gender to get your point accross...when you confine a woman to a specific "role" as home maker, you are labelling her and labels can be very limiting to ones identity... i agree theres gotta be boundries and respect but when there are expectations attached to a "role" (unrealistc ones at that), resentment is bound to follow...you seem like an intelligent man who perhaps judges women too harshly | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 7/28/2007 4:24:52 PM | From Post #232:
amoured knight: i agree with you that the lady you were referring to is being extreme in her comments, however arent you also being extreme in your perception of women?...as well as using sarcasm and patronizing the female gender to get your point accross...when you confine a woman to a specific "role" as home maker, you are labelling her and labels can be very limiting to ones identity... i agree theres gotta be boundries and respect but when there are expectations attached to a "role" (unrealistc ones at that), resentment is bound to follow...you seem like an intelligent man who perhaps judges women too harshly
Young Lady, thand you for your perception of my comments! If I understand your town of Melborne to be in Austrailia then we need to contrast cultural differences. In the U.S. presently the divorce rate is between 50-70% and relationships are so scary that this continent can be compared to Irac at the present in that romance an relationships are very sour. Or like the DMZ between Noth and South Korea, Man Verses Women. Luckily there are other nations where the potential mates aren't as insane and walking around as is in my region! I hear very positive things about Austrailia, and the gals are warm to a man *if* they can get his attention. This is just the reputation floating around of Austrailia.
Yes, I know my comment was somewhat extreme but you haven't been in Nevada where being next to California, it's like the rectum of the nation and CA is the intestines; the people out here are on such twisted trails that one just never knows!
  
IE I met a 23 year old girl who later I saw on the bus giving me all the signals to make a move. I walked with her a while, came by her work a few times dressed up and then after several weeks of taking it slow I decided I'd ask her out to dinner. Well Being single and wanting it moral, I'm not going to pass up meeting others even if I'm in route for a date. What does she do when I try to ask her out, 'she plays this game and avoids me and moved on'. In other words she just wanted strokes, someone to notice just like the 'harlots flirting in the bar' with no *True Intention* of a remote possibilty of a relationship. But luckily I met some real sweethearts that day who had more honesty, warmth, and sincerity.
In talking with many in this vicinity, this is so typical of negativity and 'games' in relationships here!
What does this have to do with our topic. The gal was dressed showing off her curves, not revealing flesh at all. But I don't buy this attitude that women are dressing for other women unless they are Lesbian!
But most *Do Not* even comprehend *If* you play games on the opposite gender when young, is it possible you'll reap a harder lesson as you may attain a mate who makes your life a living Hades as your Karma, your reward? | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 7/28/2007 5:09:23 PM |
What they don't get is that they're placing a value on their vagina that is all about controlling their relationships. They think they can use it to buy exclusivity and committment, never realizing they're feeding the very behaviors they detest. They don't understand why some men expect them to drop their panties just cause they (the men) dropped a lil coinage on them, yet they expect men to commit to them just cause they gave him a of their prized kitty. What kind of madness is that? Until we stop placing these values (of expectation---"I do this for you, you do this for me") on our vaginas and start making love simply because we wanna make love, without expectation, this craziness will continue.
Damn good post.
I know quite a few women that only want to date men. They don't really want a relationship and they don't really want sex. It strokes their ego to date, dance, etc.
Of course, most men aren't out for only dating. I think most men see it as a means to an end to either sex or a relationship or both.
So most of the women I know that only want to date - they don't tell this to the men. It's called using men and being players.
Just as some men are players and only want sex and lie about that. Same difference. | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 7/28/2007 5:39:16 PM | | Women generally dress nicely so they don't embarrass thier date by wearing pjamas and bunny slippers. It makes a woman feel sensuous to wear something sexy.. she isn't necessarily doing it for a man... women like to have a person look into thier eyes when they are speaking, because women look into other's eyes so that they feel that we are paying attention to what they are saying.. if a man thinks she is thinking dinner with candles.. she is probably imaging that he would look better by candlelight, than flourescent (shrug).. and while he is imagining her legs apart she is hoping he has something bigger than a****ail wienie to put there... women are honest and sincere, and hopes that he is honest too... If you think about the WILD... the male is always more colorful, and most of the time bigger than the female.. so if you put things into perspective.. which sex tries harder?? The men are the ones who put on the act.. the ritz so to speak.. and the female only has to do what she does... what is there to get??? | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 7/28/2007 9:01:18 PM | | This is precisely why women have more control over men and the course of the relationship than they think they do. The ladies hold all the cards because she has what he wants and it's her choice whether she gives it to him or not. I mean, really, if women only knew the power they had to wrap us around her little finger.... | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 7/28/2007 11:53:39 PM | In this play of yours the parts could easily be reversed.
Gees, what a conservative and outdated outlook on relationships!
Men of great intelligence and sensitivity do more than imagining two legs spread open! Maybe it is you that doesn't get it.
Women know what they want nowadays.....wake up, darling.......we are not that naive.... | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 7/29/2007 1:31:36 AM | Ditto Living above.. what a load of TOSS the Op has gone on about. And If Its reflecting his own thoughts ( " legs spread wide " ) get over the 14 yr old mentality!
And NO this doesnt happen to women " hoping this times different " get a life - women who respect themselves aint on the back legs held high In the hope a man may want more than an empty. | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 7/29/2007 2:02:52 AM | | ultimately, you are selling a bag of goods yourself, your personality and looks. The buyer either likes what he sees or he doesn't. You either get purchased for life or you don't. Look at what you are selling and improve your offering. If you don't have good looks you better have a personality that goes a long way. Cynical and ugly? Forget about it. | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 7/29/2007 3:46:03 PM | From Post #231, a swell gal that I'll always Agape:
I think this just sums up what OP is indicating in his thread .
You sleep around , you pay a price sometimes with your health and character .
One type of delusions and fantasy leads to another untill the sin of it all has you in control like a drug addict .
The more you get the more you want !!
Not that I disagree with that *Sleeping Around*, whether single or in the now 'fad' of 'serial monogamy', or ***we can do the dance like Liz who was wed to Burton did with so many***! In Other words *If* one has diligently studied the Bible, if they aren't prone to *lying to themselves* they understand the marital union in the U.S. is for *Many*{Did He Say Many!!!} is merely a form of prostitution where the couple may change beds. Bugs Bunny would say "There Iz somethin screwry going on here"!
Well by fornicate, I ain't known nothin all my life, totally ignor-runt of most anything; no wisdom in my head!
But seeing how some varmit said 'clitoris beins are from Anthrodite (Like in the myth), Phallic owners are from Ares(roman mythic names)'. That just goes to prove what I understand in that * Men are from Jars, Women are from Penis*!
Ever notice that so many males in the U.S., growin up in the 60s were bombarded with so much propaganda on the TV like War Movies, war related shows{IE. Machale's Navy, Rat Patrol, Combat, Desert Rats, and countless Westerns promoting 'Manifest Destiny'}. Do you think they did that in Hollyweird to entice those with male hormones running high to join the military for the Veit Naum experience?
As many males wanted to become *Jar-Heads*, being a U.S. Marine(Jar-Heads) and later were sacrificed in Naum!
Ever noticed Sigmund Frued could be right in look how many 'vagina owners 'wear wardrobes made simular to men's suits, with ties, pants, etc, as they currupt themselves working in a man's world?
In other words these beautys given breasts are envious of those given scrotums as they appear to be so jealous of the 'penis owners' that they try to act like or become one! Or they want one in a positive way as a Holy bride! 
And a few(????) compromise and lure an unsuspecting, undeveloped male in for a non-saintly sexual adventure; but they'll be con-demned if anyone noices!
In other words aren't ***Men are from Jars(Marine corp oreinted) and Women are from Penis***?
You mean men aren't in quest of the warrior myth, and it has nothing to do with then going into the military service?
And ye think that females don't want a penis, whether as a functional female or as one who felt left out cause she got bosums and a womb in this lifetime?
Naw, nobodys seen that under the nation with the *Holy Harlot on Manhattan Isle with the torch in her hand spouting her sacred lies*; no ones noticed that around here!
What has this to do with the debate? Do females *Trully* understand that mens hormones are stimulated unless they are either strongly cerebral, non-heterosexual, or just too burnt out of female games to giv a dome anymore? | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 7/30/2007 12:51:27 PM | From the great( ) post of #235:
It makes a woman feel sensuous to wear something sexy.. she isn't necessarily doing it for a man... women like to have a person look into thier eyes when they are speaking, because women look into other's eyes so that they feel that we are paying attention to what they are saying..
Child, I totally understand how do *Most* females are sensation oreinted, but the topic here is dealing with does she understand the arousal she has stimulated with the general masculine male? I well know that many females have wed males who were non-heterosexual, as somewhere in their thinking they *May* have thought that he was so genuine, so sensitive, so controlled, so in touch with them, so....... etc., that they evidently 'Did Not' see the reality of their partner!
As the partner was learning more about what 'maybe' he wanted to really be in his twist on life as well as needing her as a 'cover' to camo his true nature or perhaps he was willing to try and adjust; who knows!
If ever one ever gets a chance it may help understand the male stimulus phenomena by reading or watching the films or books by Christian Psychologist James E. Dobson author of 'Family in Focus'. Dobson points out when a husband goes to work, and all these females are walking around in tight sweaters, low-cut blouses, short skirts, nice hoisery, etc., his hormones are registering and in some cases highly aroused! he comes home after all the bombardment of feminine curves and perfume, and he is ready to romance and seduce his bride vigorishly. In other words those women helped put her husband in the mood to bond and do the 'breeding dance'!
  
The wife goes to work, and masculine symbols like if on a contruction job, or an office with different wardrobes for each type of trade and she interacts with many males. *If* some male kisses her hand, accidently brushes agains her breast, talks of something that starts her lubricating, or she has lunch by a beautiful river in the park, and driving home she hears a song that is seducing her, she is now in the mood to dance, romance, and have her hubby remove that lingerie from her curves!
So with the help of the opposite gender which inspired an atmosphere for the loyal devoted married couple or those in contracts of co-habitation; they usually bond physically!
Many males as well as females have fetishes, like some males like a women in corsets, or other types of lingerie! Then some people who spend a lot of time on the beach aren't that stimulated by the opposite half naked or even a nude opposite gender on the beach; but their motor is roaring if a woman is in lingerie or a generous amount of cleavage, or her skirt is 'way to short for govt. work', or he watches those high heels distract him from his routine!
women are honest and sincere, and hopes that he is honest too... If you think about the WILD... the male is always more colorful, and most of the time bigger than the female.. so if you put things into perspective.. which sex tries harder?? The men are the ones who put on the act.. the ritz so to speak.. and the female only has to do what she does... what is there to get???
I wouldn't say most women nor men are really all that honest; only a few in a each generation have high integrity don't you think? Looking at all the deceptions in the denominations of Christianity as well as political party agends should prove how dishonest many folloers are! Haven't you noticed most people are followers like the *donkey pulling the cart following the carrot tied in front of him*? In othe words the baited robot types resemble 'the masses are jackasses' if you will as they are so unconscious and 'trendy'!
*Maybe*, many males are flamboyant like the rooster/cock of many game birds or domestic fowl! But hasn't feminism(female chauvenist movement) brought about a lot of feminization and supression of most North American Males north of Mexico?
I'm hearing from most Californian women that they can't find *Any* real men in their respective metropolitan populations as so many are now so in touch with their feminine side and feelings that the females wonder where did the gallant male go?
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 7/30/2007 1:35:00 PM | Mr. Single Writer,
I finally get it. From all the postings you have gatherd here, from one extreme to another, gives you alot of material for your next book. I must applaud you.
What a clever way to research for your material. You put out a subject matter that is bound to bring out many many different responses. I think I will put out a thread.....WHY ARE SO MANY MEN IMPOTENT. Then I can become a writer too under the guise of being a **** just to get a big reaction. Wish me luck!!!!!!!
Your friend,
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 7/30/2007 3:24:47 PM | | This guy is expressing his opinion...it's only his opinion !!! It doesn't mean it's the gospel truth and that all men share his viewpoint. I don't agree with what he has to say but this is his truth and he has the right to speak it. Why not just look at it with an open mind and try and see where he is coming from? Maybe somewhere in his past he's learn to objectify women, maybe he's addicted to porn so that is the lens with which he views women? I mean ...who knows, but for the ladies it's probably good information to know that guys like this are out there (probably more than you think) so forewarned is forearmed ! | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 7/30/2007 6:24:18 PM | I've been noticing that for us singles who are trying to walk a Christian life that we may be guilty of a **Sex Misdomeaner**.
I mean we all need our speacial partner and many of us *Are Not Getting It**
In celibacy some of you have noticed people who get a lil touched from time to time in that:
Withour sex one may commit a Sex Misdomeaner.
If you**** Miss Sex Long Enough You Just Get Meaner****!
So lets all try to find each his or her own mate, celibacy has it's consequences ya know! | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 7/31/2007 12:57:56 AM | | women who "mis"use their sexuality and depend on that alone to entice a man are just as guilty as the writer of this post...exploitation in any form isnt right and cant be justified in my opinion...when you strip away all the layers of deception and games that men and women play with each other, underneath it all isnt there just confusion and misconceptions re both the sexes...arent we just breeding more and more ignorance by this behaviour and shouldnt we instead be endeavouring to learn and understand each other better without all these b***s***t assumtions...and amoured knight...maybe you should move to australia hehe...but you will find that our divorce statistics are also50%...we are fighting a similar battle of the sexes here as you are in the U.S. | |
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