| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they? Posted: 6/30/2008 11:14:04 AM | That's news to me. I never, "played a part," in a relationship. I'm a man and I happen to like the emotional/romantic aspect of things. For me, it has to be heart to heart and soul to soul, before it can be body to body. There has to be something more there than just staring at her chest and having visions of sugar plumbs dance through my head.
Maybe that's where your mistake is OP.. Your playing a part.. While the woman is trying to be sincere. | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they? Posted: 6/30/2008 11:15:39 AM | Some women do get. The only way to find out if she gets it or not, is when you dont even have to wonder that question. Sometimes what you might question, she may be thinking the same about you. I think a relationship of any kind, should always be on the same page of communication. So Then you don't have the consequences of a head and heartach , And your only question will be, why?  | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they? Posted: 6/30/2008 11:40:27 AM | | There are about 10% of the whole male population that about 90% of women are after. A man who would take care of her and protect her , be patient, considerate, loving, generous, agreeable, a good listener, a good girlfriend-like. A man who would not be interested in sex unless she wants it, who would not even look at other women, not to mention think about them. In other words she wants someone who would look like a man, but be like a woman. And she would tell you:"Be a man!" As if she knows better what a real man should be like. After all she knows better than you! I hate women who write in their profile ''looking for a man, must not be interested in sex". It is all about HER, what she wants and needs. And his needs are not important...... | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they? Posted: 6/30/2008 12:05:03 PM | | There are women who pretend to be a sex kitten, teasing you, as if promising a good unforgettable sex, but before she will tell you that her ex-boyfriend brought her to good restaurants. I met such player. And I tried to impress her too the same way. I ordered fine wine - she prefered only very good wine. The sixth visit ended up badly. She got drunk and accused me in getting her drunk. She wanted nothing to do with me anymore. We did not get to become lovers. Perhaps she decided it was time to move on to another candidate without getting sexually involved with me. I guess it makes her feel good being pampered without giving anything in return. Or maybe she thought that she was making him a favour - after all she is beautiful and he was seen with her, so he must pay...... | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they? Posted: 6/30/2008 1:00:51 PM | Oh god lord. Dangerbird, are you serious? Just because you take someone to dinner and buy some wine does not mean that you get sex in return. How that ever got to be an urban legend is beyond me. Women can cook their own meal if they want to eat. They don't need to let you have sex with them just so they can get a free dinner. That is the most absurd thing I have heard in a long time.
If you want to get to know a girl and date her, take her to dinner. If you want someone to screw, call a hooker.
Women should not feel obligated to have sex with someone they are not interested in. It takes more than one date to find out in some cases. If you don't want to spend lots of money on impressing her while getting to know her, then take her for a hike or walk. Those girls that just want to be pampered are easy to spot from a mile away. Either you actually want that type of girl, or you aren't paying attention to anything but her boobs. Save yourself the trouble and go to a bar where girls are already drunk. You can save a few bucks and go home with them without any obligation. They may not even remember you the next morning. Its a win-win. | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they? Posted: 6/30/2008 1:19:00 PM |
She is honest and sincere, and he puts on an elaborate act.
Yeah, I don't get it. Can you help me understand it?
I would willingly dress carefully to attract his attention for the rest of our lives. I would enhance the romance with candlelit dinners AND bask in his lust for me with eager legs spread apart.
Sadly, it was only an elaborate courtship act to snag and reel me in. It resembled NOTHING of the ensuing years. Women really don't get it.
Why do men put on false airs in courtship?
Puleeze be who you are today what you intend to be tomorrow! | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they? Posted: 6/30/2008 2:00:46 PM | | SingleWriter: Evidently, you don't get it. Humans are basically animals. In the animal kingdom it is the female who picks the male, not the other way around. Only the best, the most virile, the most attractive males get chosen to mate with the female. All the other males get cast out to make it on their own. In the animal kingdom the males have to court the female or fight the dominant male to get the privilage of mating with the females in the pack. Only the successful males prevail. So, don't worry, we get it very well, but we don't have to accept. You see, we do the choosing, not you. | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they? Posted: 6/30/2008 2:14:39 PM | | wow... man.. you have had some unpleasant experiences. I just hate it when a few types of women, color all of us with such a reputation. And the the rest are left to wear the projection of " looking for a man, must not be interested in sex" and so, Danger.. the reverse is also true. Men have bad experiences and then assume all women are like the ones you describe. | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they? Posted: 6/30/2008 2:36:52 PM | Why do men put on false airs in courtship? Puleeze be who you are today what you intend to be tomorrow!
Your question is rhetorical. Shallow and self-serving men put on a false front because they know the sales pitch is what women fall for. Such males are only interested in a series of quick lays, and then they are gone.
Men who behave as they really kno that they are typically hated and despised by the vast majority of women who want the man to behave according to some romantic or machoist sort of mode.
If you really want too know why most guys are reluctant to commit to a stable relationship? Its simple. They know the woman well enough to know that she will hate the man if he shows who he really is and that he has real faults that women despise.
Not that I agree with the comments of the original OP, but the title line is appropriate. Women just dont get it, because many of them cannot accept men for who they are.
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they? Posted: 6/30/2008 3:14:36 PM |
Women just dont get it, because many of them cannot accept men for who they are.
So splain it to me, Ricky. Men are not who they appear to be in the courtship and wooing stages. Who are they really? Please describe who a man is. What is it about a man that you believe women will not accept?
I think that there is some bizarre truth to this whole thread and a potential insight into why there are so many disappointing relationships. | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they? Posted: 6/30/2008 6:23:51 PM | Because most younger and middle-aged women have lots of false romantic and materialistic expectations. Men know they cannot live up to those false ideals 24-7 so many of them put up a false front. Women do it as well. People are afraid to be themselves because the majority of people have flaws or weakness of some form, which the bulk of people in our elitist society have been taught to reject as being baggage or that makes someone "damaged goods", and therefore unacceptable. The oppressed and the oppressor end up being the same people.
Those who want a perfect world should be careful what they wish for. : 
Those who want a happy world for themselves and others just have to keep fighting for it.
SingleWriter: Evidently, you don't get it. Humans are basically animals. In the animal kingdom it is the female who picks the male, not the other way around. Only the best, the most virile, the most attractive males get chosen to mate with the female. All the other males get cast out to make it on their own. In the animal kingdom the males have to court the female or fight the dominant male to get the privilage of mating with the females in the pack. Only the successful males prevail. So, don't worry, we get it very well, but we don't have to accept. You see, we do the choosing, not you.
Well put. It is better to die alone with ethics then it is to give a fool what they want. Its not a very nice reality, but I didnt create it. Those of us who are cast out just have to live with it. Sad but thats life.
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they? Posted: 6/30/2008 6:47:46 PM | The truth is this, any woman who gets all dressed-up to attract a man's attention so he will fantasize about have hot steaming sex with her and then engages in the hot steamy sex with him and then believes this man will become next her husband, boyfriend, lover or whatever is an idiot.
I don't care what she looks like or how many ways she can twist her legs behind her head, you cannot keep a man with just sex. Furthermore, why would you want to? If a woman really believes that all she has to offer a man is sex, well then she should become a prostitute.
OP, I think I understandwhat you are asking, why do women think that being good in bed is enough or that it entitles you to the whole rest of the fairytale? The way I look at these women is not only is she doing a total disservice to herself, I also think it is insulting to men?
I know there are some men out there who are just after sex, but I think the number is a lot lower than most woman believe and I do believe that men really appreciate a woman who has pride and confidence in her total self and not just in her sexual abilities. A woman who has confidence in herself and is aware of everything she has to offer, is a woman a man will want to stay with. | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they? Posted: 6/30/2008 9:38:46 PM | I was really getting close with a man on POF. He raised his children on his own and had been divorced. I was raising my children without a spouse. We both had cheating exes. Similar morals and supposedly similar long term wants, desires and needs from a spouse. Same beliefs in marriage in divorce ect...........OKAY.... I noticed that he had close to 100 women who had him on their favorite list. one day he had 2 flowers then the flowers were both gone well, i felt used. He was talking seriously with me about committment "sex" everything and 2 flowers are gone. I sent him a mail and cursed him out. my belief was if he cared, he would explain himself and make me feel better~ he did explain things to me~and he would have added me back onto his favorite list in which he removed me from. He kept me off the favorite list and said that he doesn't wan't any comments showing up on it. i said if his 100 people on his favorite list is more important then me then it is obvious that he doesn't care. He response was well my ex wives cheated on me. i said i guess that you care more about them and your 100 people on your favorite list more then me. then he blocked me!!!!!! so i called him and told him you can't just throw me away like trash. you have treated me completely wrong. i had a feeling that you don't care about me and it is very sad to find out that my feeling was right. do you people think it was the non committal sex????as long as there was no heat in the kitchen and no pressure???????????? | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they? Posted: 7/6/2008 3:18:27 PM | You learn something all the time on these forums. I never even thought about those roses or that someone would check. I've rarely given one out, just used points for the other things (which seems kind of silly, actually).
Hey vivaciousvixen2, I looked at your profile. That guy was nuts, be glad he's gone. I'd just like to have one person with me on her favorites list that turns into a permanent favorite OFF this site.
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they? Posted: 7/6/2008 11:14:54 PM | | Dang man, you know you were gonna get bombarded with darts after telling the truth about men and women. Men want sex, period, but they don't understand that we also want other things but the sex is really really important. | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they? Posted: 7/8/2008 10:05:21 PM | Misleading someone to have sex with them is a crime.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Nahhhhhhhh, it's not a crime, just plain dishonest and shows little integrity and total lack of character. Just what I seek in friends....yeppers....what a catch!
If anyone does anything dishonest directed at me, well, I do one of two things: I dismiss the person in disgust or I seek some sort of vindication (although I'm much more calm and controlled in that regard than I was in my 20's....but still not a good idea to annoy me... ) | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they? Posted: 7/8/2008 11:01:52 PM | | Well, heck, now I am confused. I want sex too. and other things.. like ohhh I dunno...honesty.. ha... ok.. so IF I want sex.. now I am not being female?..humm :: looking down my shirt:: last time I checked.. yeppers I am female... so confusing... | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they? Posted: 7/8/2008 11:46:20 PM |
She is honest and sincere, and he puts on an elaborate act. In the end--if he plays his part well--he gets what he's after. And she...well...she hopes this time it will be different. What is it that women don't seem to get? Or are they, too, just playing a part?
First of all most women are not honest, cause if they were then communication wouldn't be the issue it is, and they only think they are sincere......and men are not smart enough to put on an effective elaborate act.....Women get it & yes they are playing out their hopes & dreams....Men are playing too, but they just keep changing the rules..... | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they? Posted: 7/9/2008 4:59:30 PM | | gosh.. I dont like being clumped into.. 'most women".. cuz I agree!! I dont like people playing out anything and afraid of honesty.... I think this is are all human issues, integrity issues, baggage issues... and not specific to man/woman. | |
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| Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they? Posted: 7/11/2008 11:51:09 AM | She dresses carefully to attract his attention, and he wonders what she looks like without clothes. She wants to look deep into his eyes, but he's looking down at her chest. She imagines dinner with candles, and he imagines them writhing in bed. She is ruled by her heart, and he is ruled by the vision of two legs spread wide apart. She is honest and sincere, and he puts on an elaborate act. In the end--if he plays his part well--he gets what he's after. And she...well...she hopes this time it will be different. What is it that women don't seem to get? Or are they, too, just playing a part?
It sounds like written by a woman who was involved with the man in the photo and who felt like being used by him for sex. so, she decided to spoil his reputation and feels good about many folks here making him look like a prick. She, sure, is very angry...... | |
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