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 Heide

Joined: 3/23/2007
Msg: 126
Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 4/20/2007 7:21:55 AM
Well, we could generalize and work with stereotypes, afterall, stereotypes are there because they do exist, or we could whittle it down to individual circumstances.

Many guys will admit that they are in fact dogs, but when they find that right one, it will be different, they'll want to settle down for her. This to me is bs.

Same with women, another load of bs. They wear the lowcut top, have a mile and a half of cleavage hanging out, and then wonder why it is that he doesn't want to hear her opinions of global warming!

Men and women both use what's been given to them to try to suck in their next victim. I don't know why more people can't just step up and be honest and comfortable in who they are and what they want!
If she is looking for that white dress, and he is just looking for a booty call, why is it so difficult to say that? Classic false advertising. From push up bras, high heels, chemically straightened hair, fake fingernails, false eyelashes, people just need to be who they are and be comfortable in that!

Say what you mean, mean what you say, and always follow through with what you said you were going to do.
 SingleWriter

Joined: 1/30/2007
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Posted: 4/20/2007 10:27:53 AM

Say what you mean, mean what you say, and always follow through with what you said you were going to do.

There's an old saying: "The less you pretend to be, the more you are." In the short run it seems impractical to expect women to throw away the paint, or men to drop their "act." But there's little doubt about the gains that honesty eventually brings to any and all who dare to practice it. But don't hold your breath..
 peanut1066

Joined: 3/2/2007
Msg: 128
Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 4/20/2007 11:45:46 AM
He dresses carefully to attract her attention, she wonders how much does he make. He wants to look deep into her eyes, she's looking at the car he drives. He imagines a dinner with candles and she imagines is that enough. He is ruled by his heart she is ruled by is he good enough. He is honest and sincere and she too puts on an elaborate act... In the end if she plays her part and he's good enough they both get what they want....

May not be the popular answer but this is the flip side to OPs post....I imagine by the emotional responses by the women to your post that they do not believe that this is the way it is...but it is....
 mimosa

Joined: 4/5/2005
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Posted: 4/20/2007 12:58:51 PM
Of course it works both ways but what's the %, 100 men and woman 40% lets say are out for material gain be it money or a body. If I were to judge all men by the few who were dishonest I'd head for the deep Amazon.

All young unmarried females are looking for financial stability in a man for purposes of an eventual marriage. Normal
All young unmarried men are looking for fun until they're ready for the eventual marriage. Normal
Basically it's all normal behavior but the timing is wrong.
And we're chasing our tails here.

I'm bored, we all want sex end of story, men want it yesterday like fast food, and we want the 5 course meal.
 peanut1066

Joined: 3/2/2007
Msg: 130
Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 4/20/2007 3:18:22 PM
Mimosa,

Why do you presume its 100% of guys and 40% of women?? Its a game thats been played throughout the ages...we play it and we play it well, and they play it well, some better than others. We all know in the back of our minds.. our gut feeling...that this is the way it is...we play out the game hoping beyond all hope that we are the "chosen" one, ...and that they are the one......
 bijous

Joined: 12/22/2006
Msg: 131
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Posted: 4/20/2007 3:39:55 PM
And that's the difference with men and women.... they will never understand each other fully. A lot of women actually dress for themselves, to make themselves feel good for themselves.... not for a man. Men need to fukc, it's a primal thing, I believe that a lot of women have a greater grasp on the reality of the neandertal man more than these dumb arrses give them credit for ........ just remember to blow the candle out first girls.............
 tinydancer123

Joined: 3/3/2007
Msg: 132
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Posted: 4/20/2007 6:42:09 PM
I've never been called a slut but I was once called a sexual mercenary

....which I think is far more eloquent. No it's not true, just a bad case of sour grapes.
 blahblah101

Joined: 3/26/2007
Msg: 133
Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 4/20/2007 7:01:41 PM
Sexual mercenary ? Nice :D

btw, your cute. But Im sure Uve been called that plenty of times. Ive lost interest in this thread. If I ever had any. But was actually a fairly decent way to waste 10 mins. Has some entertainment value. Which is to say. Could be worse OP. So thanks.
 ny_lady_13601

Joined: 10/25/2006
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Posted: 4/20/2007 7:30:04 PM
SingleWriter: [/In the end--if he plays his part well--he gets what he's after].

And you wonder if women just don't seem to get it???? You pretty much summed up the fact that men are pigs and simply will do whatever it takes to get laid, even if it means manipulation. If that's all your type is after, take a few bucks and head to your nearest street corner, it may prove to be cheaper than an actual date. There are women out there that only want the same thing you do, so just go after them. Why lie and manipulate a woman that is looking for more than simply getting laid and you walking away after getting what you wanted?????? Stay with your own kind!
 green_eyed_goddess70

Joined: 4/5/2007
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Posted: 4/20/2007 9:39:56 PM
That was unbelievably well said. Congrats on having such an open, adult and realistic view on relationships.
 VillageSage

Joined: 2/4/2007
Msg: 136
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Posted: 4/20/2007 10:55:27 PM

What is it that women don't seem to get? Or are they, too, just playing a part?

Are we aware of what we're doing--and why? As you've no doubt learned by now, women are quite aware of their role in this game. We just don't like our tactics openly discussed, much less questioned or criticised. Pretense, on both sides, whether conscious or not, is the name of the game.

And is there more to it than meets the eye? Yes, and no. For example, men's testicles (and their little delivery system) hang out in plain sight. But ours lie buried deeply within. When you 'do' us, its from the outside in. But when we 'do' you, its from the inside out. Not surprisingly, it takes you awhile to realize that you've been screwed.

Anything else you'd like to know?
 karin21201

Joined: 5/28/2006
Msg: 137
Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 4/20/2007 11:42:21 PM
Game on!!!!!..............
 Tiffifish

Joined: 12/21/2006
Msg: 138
Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 4/20/2007 11:42:51 PM
Reading this thread, I find it interesting to read some of the post and how defensive we get when we analyze "the situation." In all honesty, we've all been there or are there. It's the "games" people play and that's all it is; both men and women will "lure" a potential "interest" in hopes of whatever they fantasize in their minds. It's the game, the chase and the anticipation of ultimate conquest. Trust me, women can hold out and some men will certainly wait.

There are people that genuinely grow out of the "game" phase and seek something more substantial, and those that are in this phase will recognize the "players" from the "genuine person." You will see that people at this phase in their personal growth will choose not to put energy in a situation that is not congruent with their own personal path.
 dinky-di

Joined: 3/7/2007
Msg: 139
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Posted: 4/20/2007 11:51:14 PM
Women usually 'get it' whenever they want 'it'. Reckon this is what is so frustrating to men?

Just calling it like I see it.

Course we may be speaking of two different meanings of 'get it'.
 777_777

Joined: 1/26/2007
Msg: 140
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Posted: 4/21/2007 12:51:12 AM
What do you mean by 'Throw out the paint?'. Are you talking about expectations? Also, when we live in truth, we are in harmony. To live our truth is to be honest with what we really want and take that appropriate action. To do this takes courage.
 codyellie

Joined: 4/3/2007
Msg: 141
Women just don't seem to get it! Or do they?
Posted: 4/21/2007 12:53:50 AM

“Do you want me to tell you something really subversive? Love is everything it's cracked up to be. That's why people are so cynical about it. It really is worth fighting for, being brave for, risking everything for. And the trouble is, if you don't risk anything, you risk even more.” -- Erica Jong





I LOVE YOU ERICA..............
 mimosa

Joined: 4/5/2005
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Posted: 4/21/2007 3:09:17 AM
Peanuts there should have been a comma after women.
Tiffifish well said I entirely agree.
The mating game has been played since some higher power gave us reproductive organs. And we've been complaining ever since.

That endless game gets boring after awhile, something new like total honesty would be refreshing sometimes. Now total honesty will be interpreted differently depending on the gender so we're back to square one lol.

The Polynesians before they got religion had it right. Total freedom without guilt.
 bijous

Joined: 12/22/2006
Msg: 143
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Posted: 4/21/2007 2:17:38 PM
SingleWriter: [/In the end--if he plays his part well--he gets what he's after].

nylady 13601
And you wonder if women just don't seem to get it???? You pretty much summed up the fact that men are pigs and simply will do whatever it takes to get laid, even if it means manipulation. If that's all your type is after, take a few bucks and head to your nearest street corner, it may prove to be cheaper than an actual date. There are women out there that only want the same thing you do, so just go after them. Why lie and manipulate a woman that is looking for more than simply getting laid and you walking away after getting what you wanted?????? Stay with your own kind!

Oh go girl......... what is it with these men who have dix for brains ?
 sddude

Joined: 11/4/2004
Msg: 144
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Posted: 4/21/2007 5:08:35 PM
girl cuz guys want you , not the other girl, at the moent you caught his eye , he wants you , and like most women , you really want to be desired and persued so the guy persues, if he likes you he will keep you for bangation if not , will not call you again , you on the other hand as a woman , will dispose of boring, shy , insecure, unaffluent
or whatever the case maybe , we are at a war of attraction, I get disposed of easily for of attraction, I get disposed of easily for being celibate and overly outgoing which is mistaken by immaturity .
 sddude

Joined: 11/4/2004
Msg: 145
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Posted: 4/21/2007 5:12:51 PM
you say guys have dix for brains ? you never had sex dix for brains ? you never had sex ? do not have sex ? why get into bed with a guy to begin with if you know you will be hurt , you sound like you were a victim before
 Darrr

Joined: 3/14/2007
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Posted: 4/21/2007 5:57:57 PM
GET IT, YAH WE DO.............Your profile just screams "SEXUAL PREDATOR"......Looking to take and for sure won't give anyting back....Just teaching a girls class on the male predators.....and you are the perfect example...
Got a class of 6 girls looking at your profile...........and how men like you try to lower a girl's self-esteem to safisfy your own needs
 liometa

Joined: 8/12/2006
Msg: 147
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Posted: 4/22/2007 12:50:10 AM
And what make u think women would want men like that?
Ur vision about women is very single-roaded. Some men qualify for just sex, some as bf, and some as a real bf u wanna live with... And most dont qualify for nothing...
 Tiffifish

Joined: 12/21/2006
Msg: 148
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Posted: 4/22/2007 2:45:21 AM
In defense of this post, let's put this out there...take out dinner and sitting across from each other dressed our 'best'...let's say, we look at the pics that are posted on various sites...hmmm...women pics with that seductive look, you know the ones where its that just f**ked look...hair tousled and you finger placed precariously on your lips... or dressed in a bikinis...showing their cleavage...or lying in precarious positions...what is a guy to think??? what is it that you want to attract?? Oh...I'm not going to leave out the men that show their six packs...or flex their "pecs" or biceps...or the bodybuilding poses...what's the "message" are you sending out??? Isn't the same without the candlelit dinner...what is it that you're wanting to attract?? Then, some will sit here and critize that men/women will objectify...when you look at it all, it's just a game...it's pure fishing...luring the "big" one with the most enticing. Face it...some play...some play it subtlely...some don't get it...and some just can't be bother with the game.

It's all a choice and personal preference, but don't turn a blind eye and live in denial by saying that you don't play games or that men/women don't get it...we all get it...think about the actions...it does speak louder than the words.
 Gwendolyn2008

Joined: 1/22/2006
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Posted: 4/22/2007 6:53:24 PM

hair tousled and you finger placed precariously on your lips... or dressed in a bikinis...showing their cleavage...or lying in precarious positions...what is a guy to think


I agree about the lying in precarious positions, but I have hair; I have lips; I have cleavage. I am not going to cover any of them just because men can't decide what they should think. Also, looking seductive might be an invitation, but it doesn't mean that the invition is extended to all men.

We could switch over and wear burkas, or return to the artificial prudishness of the Victorian Era. In fact, showing a leg in that era was as "seductive" as showing cleavage now . . . so it is merely a matter of subjective attitude. Some people will read seductiveness into anything a woman is wearing.
 Tiffifish

Joined: 12/21/2006
Msg: 150
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Posted: 4/22/2007 8:20:46 PM
gwendolyn,
That's just the point everything is subject to interpretation. There is nothing wrong with any of it, but people get offended when they're mis"read" and though the intention is not to lead the person on the other party may feel that they're subjected to a "game".

We all need to accept responsibility to our actions even though the intent of the action may be misinterpreted - we all play a part when a situation goes awry or if there is lack of communication. It's not fair to blame one or the other for thinking this or that...we just need to be very clear on what our intentions are in the situation and communicate it.
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