| When someone says they are a genius!?
Posted: 4/16/2007 10:43:51 AM | | When someone says they are a genius it usually means they are insecure. Someone who truly is a genius doesn't need to advertise it -- unless of course they are trying to prove something, usually to themselves. | |
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| When someone says they are a genius!?
Posted: 4/16/2007 1:40:14 PM | When someone says they are a genius it usually means they are insecure
I don't think that is necessarily true. Sometimes they might be stating that because they can be on a different level than most people. It can be difficult for others to understand that aspect of them.
I say I am smart.. not because I am insecure, but because I am. I don't want to be taken as the stereo-typed dumb blonde or think someone can play me. I have street smarts and intelligent smarts and I state that because, I want someone on the same level as me. | |
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| When someone says they are a genius!?
Posted: 4/16/2007 2:37:48 PM |
What, if anything, means GENIUS? Do you care? Should we just forget this cult of intellect of define what it means for us?
I admit no dummy can attract me. But anyone can pretend to be smart. What defines it for you? What makes you throw someone back for being a "dummy?"
Thanks!
Interesting thoughts OP. Genius? To me is very subjective. We can state the obvious: the inventionists throughout history, famous artists, musicians, etc., most from the distant past. Today ~ it's just much less noticable because of all the advancements taking place in nearly every field of life on a constant basis. I believe I know one "genius" personally, a geneticist. But, I don't know if anyone outside of his field of research would consider him "genius." Those in his world do, however.
I simply don't agree with the fact that "anyone can pretend to be smart." Sorry OP ~ I've never encountered someone who fits into that category. Intelligence is quite apparent. It's not easily faked and even less easy to pretend. At least that is my opinion on that!  | |
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| When someone says they are a genius!?
Posted: 4/16/2007 2:55:31 PM | Genius is determined by the score on an IQ test. However, it has no validity in how that
level of intelligence may be expressed in real life.
It simply means that the particular individual is proficient in IQ tests...nothing more.
Mad | |
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| When someone says they are a genius!?
Posted: 4/16/2007 3:10:07 PM | | I think it was remarkable that someone managed to come up with a test that only measures the ability to take that one test. How did they isolate from all of a person's capabilities those which are useless in everything beyond that one test? It must be like that one where the first instruction is to read the entire test before starting, and the last line says you don't have to answer any of the questions. | |
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| When someone says they are a genius!?
Posted: 4/16/2007 3:43:00 PM | I recently took a test for the Dept of Homeland Security. It involved looking at a computer screen of an x-ray of baggage. Only high IQ people are able to make out 'things' in there, like weapons and electronic devices. To everyone else, it is a jumble. I was never pandered to as a child, and really never considered myself a genius until recently. I am now 46! In elementary school I was routinely placed in 'special' programs, and that seemed normal to me. I didn't know anything else. But now I can understand that I do not think like other people, utilizing my 'genius' or not. I could, but have not joined Mensa, because I saw it as pointless to get together and play D and D. I have never considered IQ to be a factor in love, I just assume I will be a bit sharper than anyone. And whenever anyone told me that I was wrong, and proceeded to tell me their opinion, I usually meekly assumed they were correct. No longer. Now, I assume they are an arrogant ass, and I am learning to trust myself. ESPECIALLY if it comes from an evangelical 'leader'. I am a PK, and I know I know and understand
more about the Bible and religion, and history than they most probably do. IQ is not simply ability to remember things, it is ability to process information differently. It is the seeing of part, and immediately grasping the remainder. It is the ability to put together something others don't. Perhaps they could, but it does not occur to them. I could give you recent examples in my life, but I am reluctant to do so, appearing to be bragging. I don't like to go shoving it in others faces, I just do what I do. And it can be amazing, even to me in retrospect. Geniuses are also typically very lonely, and rather isolated. Because usually they have a low SIQ. I grasped early on that I did not wish to be a 'nerd', and associated with jocks and 'average' winners. Anywho, I am going on too long... D | |
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| When someone says they are a genius!?
Posted: 4/16/2007 4:03:24 PM | | I belong to a group called "Mensa For Dummies". It's kind of like PDQ Bach for classical music lovers. The brilliance of it is in the stupidity of it. | |
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| When someone says they are a genius!?
Posted: 4/16/2007 4:30:58 PM | | A genius is someone that scores well on a test. It has nothing to do with social skills or abilities or good personalities. To me, being a genius means nothing except that you scored well on a test. So, no dummy can attract you. That is about the most condescending statement that I have ever read. I guess I would consider a dummy anyone trying to get in a relationship with a person with an over-inflated ego or an arrogant, condescending attitude. It is better to have a kind, considerate, modest, and caring heart than to have an intelligent mind that is prejudiced. Just so that you know, there are those so-called dummies that are really geniuses in disguise. | |
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| When someone says they are a genius!?
Posted: 4/16/2007 5:12:06 PM | genius + genius do not make genius babies -- it's called regression toward the mean.
There are many types of measurable intelligence -- ( theory of multiple “intelligences” )
and more and more differentiation is emerging almost daily with study.
It is possible to measure differences the conduction speed of neurons between individuals
and it is known to correlated to intelligence. Organic structure is also know to be a
factor... (for example post-mortem examination of Einstein’s brain revealed significant
structural anomalies in areas now known to support abstract thought processes). Genius
also may have autism component and many geniuses have demonstrated what would be
termed learning disabilities by everyday standards.
True genius is beyond intelligence and in terms of personal and social interaction would
not be highly valued. People may think it would be fun to spend an afternoon with a
Einstein, Edison, Tesla, Newton, Shakespeare, Thales the Milesian or their irk -- but the
evidence is that there wouldn't a long queue of repeat customers if such an event were to
be staged.....
-k | |
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| When someone says they are a genius!?
Posted: 4/20/2007 3:50:06 PM | Are we discounting "Evil Geniuses"?  Yeah, it is my Headline.
Am I genius? Well, I'd say I'm smarter than Joe average. And I often get accused of being arrogant when people first meet me. As I say in my profile, I am a fountain of useless information. This often allows me to inject an anecdote in to just about any conversation. These side comments make it seems like I'm trying to impress people when I'm actually just trying to extend the conversation.
The reality is I'm blessed with an unusual memory capacity and I'm able to retain most of what I read and hear… Significantly more than the average person.
I don't announce it, or make a big deal about it, but eventually they notice something is up and ask.
In the case of the "date" I'd say his youth hasn't given him the luxury of refining his manners. | |
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| When someone says they are a genius!?
Posted: 4/20/2007 6:18:12 PM | OMG, what great responses. Some quite literal and great fodder for discussion, some so hair-trigger they made me smile at the great asylum that is Free Forum, lol.
To stand by my words, heck no, no dummy can attract me! Do you admit to being achingly seduced by idiots? If you do, then to each their own. Frankly I find it rather woeful that someone would put that they are a genius, super or otherwise, on their profile, then proceed to reiterate it on the first, second and third date. This after not being able to carry on a conversation past evasive, childish jokes. I realize now genius can exist with no social skills whatsoever, but how sad because it does not have to be. It’s a choice, really.
I think it’s funny that some got the impression that I was a superior beyatch when in my post I say I am woefully dependent on the truly SMART men at the Automotive Place. And uh, they can carry on a conversation.
I just expected too much of genius, well, no I won‘t generalize, that isn‘t fair. Just this particular genius. I thought they’d be an interesting, exciting date. I was wrong. That was the impetus for this post. Nothing more. Withdraw thy rapiers, geesh!
Rap the non-genius! | |
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| When someone says they are a genius!?
Posted: 4/20/2007 7:40:40 PM | I read these responses and I see "blah blah blah waste my time and the universes time blah blah blah psychobabble BLAAAAAAAAAAAAH"
Any idiot can open a dictionary, bust out 20 big words and a couple of borderline theories, and have a self described "intellectual" woman eating out of his neanderthal palm.
What I love is a 45 year old chick going out with a 25 year old self proclaimed "super genius" ..... LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
High Laryous | |
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| When someone says they are a genius!?
Posted: 4/20/2007 7:52:55 PM | 43 year old going out with a 25 year old. He was trying to impress you.
as for the defining- Literally - Thats a big stretch from dumb**ss to- intellect to genius. Genuis can be tested it is a definite quality, but generally people are only "genius" at one or two specific thing. It is that 0.05% of the human population that are tested to be a genius who excel at this one thing [ either existing or creating and re-creating an existing field] to the point of and beyond excellence over and over again
Then there is the colloquial version. I could say I am a genius at lasagne. And I am.
Then there is exaggeration. If someone told me they were a genius I would instantly assume the last two on my list unless he can show me his Nobel prize.
Your date would probably fall into the last two. No big deal. So what? And then who is to say your date isn't a genius at something. Did he do/say anything to disprove his statement? | |
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| When someone says they are a genius!?
Posted: 4/20/2007 7:56:07 PM | First of all, if a guy goes around telling you that he's a "super-genius" on a date. he's either lying or insufferably arrogant. It's like a guy telling you on the first date, "My ***** is 8 inches!" (I actually knew a girl that this happened to. Then he showed her.)
This guy may actually have a high I.Q., but I.Q. alone does not make genius. You have to actually do something with your intellect to deserve that title. Mozart was a genius. Shakespeare was a genius. Einstein was a genius. I am not, even though my I.Q. is significantly higher than what most consider the threshhold. Or, let me rephrase, I may be, but if so I haven't proven it yet, because I have not produced a body of creative or scientific work that changes mankind. Even if I do, I won't be going around calling myself one. You don't see Medal of Honor winners walking around calling themselves "heroes" (although you do see Clothing Sales heroes doing this). At most, a high I.Q. entitles you to the title "potential genius" but it's still inexcusably bad manners to call yourself that. | |
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| When someone says they are a genius!?
Posted: 4/20/2007 8:02:25 PM | OP I would say you are nitpicking here. Genius, Super Genius, Village Idiot, does any of that really matter? The things that should be important to you as 43yo woman dating a 25yo man is; did he drive half way to meet you for dinner, did he allow you to order first or order for you, and did he offer to pay his half of the tab with a 2 for 1 coupon. Those are the things that should determine if he is a "keeper" for you or not right? Good Luck!
Have fun ')!
PS: To the Roadrunner fan, its wasn't "Wiley", it was "Wile E. Coyote - Super Genius". | |
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| When someone says they are a genius!?
Posted: 4/20/2007 10:14:53 PM | | So far I have met some that tell me how smart they are and I have learned to steer clear of them. They usually are the ones who know the least. If they are that smart they made a terrible mistake by boasting of it. Plus action speak louder than words!! | |
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| When someone says they are a genius!?
Posted: 4/21/2007 6:50:55 AM |
... well, no I won‘t generalize, that isn‘t fair. Just this particular genius. I thought they’d be an interesting, exciting date. I was wrong. That was the impetus for this post. Nothing more. Withdraw thy rapiers, geesh!
consider mine withdrawn rapunzel...and i hope i didn't leave too big a hole there with mine....that was the classiest response I've seen yet in these forums to someone bashing them over the head...good job!
...personally i loved dating women your age when i was his age...older women are just way better in the sack than the young ones i find, as well as a few other aspects to it...and they usually show great appreciation the next morning with breakfast and juice in bed...some have even awokened me to show me the lovely jacket or sweater they bought for me earlier in the morning while i slept...yep...older women bring back some good memories...
...but now that i'm 48, of course my thinking has changed on dating older women...so around my age or younger i can handle these days
...anyway, at least you have the definition of genius out of my first post
if he was a genius, he would have skipped all that other stuff and cut right to the chase after a meal full of good stimulating conversation...at least those were my experiences back then...after awhile the age difference there wears a little thin on both of us... | |
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| When someone says they are a genius!?
Posted: 4/21/2007 4:09:37 PM |
When someone says they are a genius!?
Genius, honest, great kisser, lol, etc... when a man professes to be anything.. I watch to see what he backs it up with...
That is part of the fun of dating.. I see it like unwrapping a present.. sometimes what you unwrap is even more beautiful than the packaging, at others... pure crap inside, lol.. which isn't so fun.. but I guess you have to take the good with the bad..
And don't forget that one person's pile of crap is another's treasure :) | |
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| When someone says they are a genius!?
Posted: 4/21/2007 5:04:52 PM | the teen girl in the movie " hard candy" claimed to be a genius aw well. before tying up and torturing the older guy that met her in a cafe after chatting online...
maybe her super genius just watched one too many movies /... maybe she was luky the date ended early .. that movie was damn damn damn twisted btw , they took off pay per view a week later | |
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| When someone says they are a genius!?
Posted: 4/21/2007 5:42:46 PM | I worked for a short time with a VERY young guy (21/22 at the time, I believe), who had gotten the sales job because his dad has a great reputation in the industry. Despite his lack of experience compared to the lifers (25+ years in the industry, including me), he knew it all and let everyone know he knew it. If anyone doubted him, he'd (HONESTLY) whip out his MENSA card to show just how smart he was!! You could not teach him how to do his job, and he was a "genius" at passing off his work to the assistants, and sat with his feet up on his desk on the phone talking sports and girls all day. Of course, he had no problem collecting the commissions that the assistants earned FOR him. Cushy job, huh? Yeah, well, at the end of his probationary period, he DID get dismissed, to the great relief of the rest of us.
"Genius" does not mean that a person has any common sense or real smarts. A high IQ just means they have the capacity to learn and process information at a higher level. If they're not willing to learn anything new, what good is it?? It also does not have a thing to do with personality. In my opinion, if a person is so self-absorbed in the shadow of his or her own intelligence, they cannot concentrate on another person or relationship - kinda sad, really. I love intelligence, it challenges me - but it is just ONE facet of a relationship; intellectual compatibility is great, but there is no way it can be enough. I want a man with humor, compassion, integrity, honesty. I'd take that over so-called "genius" any day! | |
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| When someone says they are a genius!?
Posted: 4/21/2007 6:03:36 PM | As the old adage states, "The proof is in the pudding." I know MANY highly intelligent people who have "genius" ratings. Mensa, etc. Means nothing. Just as many "average" Joes, if not more of them, than not, have made great contributions to society worldwide.
My ex and his whole family were all geniuses and have gone through life accomplishing extremely little. Genius rating only grants you a rating. Means nothing on accomplishments through out your life.
I look at the individual as a whole. I am not at all interested in someone who is going to brag at me on anything. Braggarts usually have low self esteem. I let others brag for me, as should we all. yup,even "geniuses" can have low self-esteem, lol....
Happy fishing everyone,
Linda | |
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| When someone says they are a genius!?
Posted: 4/24/2007 6:50:24 PM | | Speaking of 'Joe'; try a google search on Joes Energy Cell. Average 'Joe' doing extrordinary things, at risk of life. D | |
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