| I figured out the girls on POF
Posted: 6/28/2009 12:40:31 PM | OP:
I just tested your formula and the numbers didn't seem add up.
Could it just be that you have a personal problem with not being picked?
How did you come up with that formula anyway? | |
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| I figured out the girls on POF
Posted: 7/8/2009 12:20:05 PM | | why do guys think that woman on here get tons of mail everyday lol paranoid much hahaha why would we choose any one when we are looking for the one lol | |
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| I figured out the girls on POF
Posted: 7/8/2009 8:47:10 PM | | Sounds like the same old whining from men who couldnt get a date in a whore house. maybe you all need to bring something more to the table since I'm sure these shallow women of which you speak are probably way out of your league. I bet you guys arent exactly sending msgs to all the women on here, just the ones that are the most attractive, same old story, now quit your whining, it just makes you look desperate. | |
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| I figured out the girls on POF
Posted: 7/8/2009 9:33:08 PM | The women had greater success in getting dates once they signed up on an online dating website. The reasons are obvious: it is hard for women to just go anywhere to meet new people and it is hard for them to directly approach men in the real world for casual romance. Online, it is a different story. They can clearly indicate in their personal ,
what they want and still maintain their privacy, anonymity (to some extent), and be safe doing it. so all this attentions make her picky , | |
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| I figured out the girls on POF
Posted: 7/9/2009 2:09:42 AM |
Ok so I've figured out how the girls on POF work. It's quite simple, really. They get lots of mail and are flattered by the attention, so they become more picky than they would be in real life (And forget the reason they're on here in the first place--they're single) So if you're not their ideal guy they won't reply.
I reply to everyone. However, emails that say "Hi how are you?" get very old, very quick. Even when I respond in kind, the conversation doesn't improve.
Have we all lost the art of communication? | |
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| I figured out the girls on POF
Posted: 11/3/2009 12:37:54 PM | It's simple supply and demand:
Supply of men goes up = demand for women goes up = womens value go up = women can now cherry pick men out of her league.
This phenomenon would be the same if the gender stats were reversed. | |
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| I figured out the girls on POF
Posted: 11/3/2009 1:41:44 PM | Strapping,
So you don't agree with the folks who have asserted (in other threads) that the ratio of men to women on here does not matter?
I can't quite see their reasoning, but they seemed pretty sure of it. Maybe because they were somehow benefitting from it. Who knows? | |
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| I figured out the girls on POF
Posted: 11/3/2009 4:09:18 PM | Uh what? Of course the ratio matters, but it is merely one facet of the relative gender inequality.
Even if the ratio of men to women were the same my equation still applies. The ratio is focused more on the amount of messages recieved between the genders. It's common knowledge that a moderately attractive woman will recieve anywhere between 20-100 new messages a day. A man on the same scale of looks would be lucky to get 1 every 2 weeks. This has been evidenced many times in previous posts.
Women recieving more messages than men = more to pick from = can pick the best of the crop = can be more selective.
Men receiving less = have to settle. | |
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| I figured out the girls on POF
Posted: 11/4/2009 9:18:21 PM | | The op was very correct about the reply rate - research from another major dating site supports it. If you are curious go google "dating reply rates" for their blog. 25% reply rate is right on the money overall. I don't know why some people get upset about it or refuse to believe, it is what it is. | |
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| I figured out the girls on POF
Posted: 11/4/2009 9:40:42 PM | The same guys who don't bother to read a woman's profile as to what she is and is not looking for, email her anyways, expect a response, get none, and then complain about rejection ( Have seen this many times maself!). That is called 'playing the victim card'aka 'poor me boohoo, nobody likes me'. Guys would have a much better success rate if they honestly compared what they had to offer with what a woman was looking for according to her profile and didn't waste time on a mismatch. A woman can be crystal clear on her preferences, and still guys who don't match them will em her.  | |
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| I figured out the girls on POF
Posted: 11/5/2009 4:56:08 AM | HardwoodFloorBoard
"So you don't agree with the folks who have asserted (in other threads) that the ratio of men to women on here does not matter?"
I don't agree with the OP, and I use stats to develop multimillion dollar campaigns.
The overall male vs female ratio is a factor, but not the only factor and may not even be the most important factor.
The ratio of women to men is not as important because the sheer number of people of POF. If there is 800K men and 400K women, the difference is not a huge factor, because you are looking for a few, not all 400K.
The variable factor is how much you act. If you send out 10 emails, the chances are higher if you send out 100 or 1000.
And if success is determined by a committed long term relationship (or just getting a first date), it is often self limited by looks, distance and things like age which has nothing to do with POF.
So does POF a scam? No, its the free market and those who work the hardest will often get the results they want. | |
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| I figured out the girls on POF
Posted: 11/5/2009 4:57:33 AM | HardwoodFloorBoard
"So you don't agree with the folks who have asserted (in other threads) that the ratio of men to women on here does not matter? I can't quite see their reasoning, but they seemed pretty sure of it. Maybe because they were somehow benefitting from it. Who knows? "
I don't agree with this statement, and I use stats to develop multimillion dollar campaigns, so the argument should make sense to me right?
The overall male vs female ratio is a factor, but not the only factor and may not even be the most important factor.
The ratio of women to men is not as important because the sheer number of people of POF. If there is 800K men and 400K women, the difference is not a huge factor, because you are looking for a few, not all 400K.
The variable factor is how much you act. If you send out 10 emails, the chances are higher if you send out 100 or 1000.
And if success is determined by a committed long term relationship (or just getting a first date), it is often self limited by looks, distance and things like age which has nothing to do with POF.
So does POF a scam? No, its the free market and those who work the hardest will often get the results they want, while those who are too selective or men who are waiting for women to contact them will lose.
My advice. Know the playground you are playing in and create a strategy to succeed. | |
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| I figured out the girls on POF
Posted: 11/5/2009 5:02:21 AM | The same guys who don't bother to read a woman's profile as to what she is and is not looking for, email her anyways, expect a response, get none, and then complain about rejection ( Have seen this many times maself!). That is called 'playing the victim card'aka 'poor me boohoo, nobody likes me'. Guys would have a much better success rate if they honestly compared what they had to offer with what a woman was looking for according to her profile and didn't waste time on a mismatch. A woman can be crystal clear on her preferences, and still guys who don't match them will em her.
And for those of us who did read her profile, have similar interests, wants, religion, better qualifications, job prospects, body, height are what then? Big headed? Conceited? Chauvanistic? | |
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| I figured out the girls on POF
Posted: 11/5/2009 11:55:28 AM | I spend sometimes quite a bit of thought and effort on a first message if I am impressed with a profile I come across. Honestly I feel like this does help a bit but not as much as you would think. I think if I sent unique short messages I would almost get the same response rate as a long thoughtful message. Mainly sending a message to a woman is just a way to get her to notice your profile, if she likes what she sees she'll reply, as long as your message is within a large range of being decent.
Let's be honest, first messages are usually hard to do because you just have a profile and a couple pictures to go off of. You can't really put THAT much into them unless you just talk about yourself. People have to engage each other to know what people can offer. Most people never get a chance to show who they really are to each other. How do you know if someone is your match or not based on a short profile and first message? You don't, you have to give people chances by engaging them.
If you look at it in reverse there have been many times I was talking to a woman, so we started to engage because we thought we both might match. However, after communicating more it became clear we didn't match and we go our separate ways. Think about it like this, for all the people you do reply to usually it still isn't going to work out, right? So just think of all the people you ignore who might actually be able to interest you in a relationship. It goes both ways. Until you give people the benefit of the doubt and invest a bit of time in getting to actually know them you'll never know if the person you just ignored might have been the one. | |
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| I figured out the girls on POF
Posted: 11/5/2009 1:35:24 PM | | If you really 'had that figured out' you'd not be on this website would you? No, you're a ball-less wonder who can't muster the courage to talk to anyone in real life... much less crawl out of your mother's basement. Get a life! | |
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| I figured out the girls on POF
Posted: 11/5/2009 11:10:45 PM |
If you really 'had that figured out' you'd not be on this website would you? No, you're a ball-less wonder who can't muster the courage to talk to anyone in real life... much less crawl out of your mother's basement. Get a life!
LOL, must a hit a nerve when I actually used some thought in a post. You realize by insulting me for being on this website you are just insulting yourself and everyone else as well. Such a nasty person.  | |
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| I figured out the girls on POF
Posted: 11/6/2009 12:04:02 AM | That's why I've come up with a highly scientific formula to find out how many responses to expect back. You take the number of girls you've messaged (Let's say 20) then you divide it by 4. So 20/4=5. You should get 5 responses (On the high end) if you msg 20 chicks
That is Nobel Peace Prize winning material right there.....
How about we all date the most realistic, average, girl next door that we find...all at once! Ready? 1.......2......3!!!! Oh god....the top end collapses and we see the actual value as overpriced old stock, with no future value as an investment. A write off.
There's an equation somewhere....must go and check my old toolbox. | |
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| I figured out the girls on POF
Posted: 11/6/2009 5:23:50 AM | Well, the formulae is flawed because so many women are still on here so there can't be that many decent guys here.
Therefore, all arguments are invalid and I stand correct. | |
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| I figured out the girls on POF
Posted: 11/6/2009 3:29:10 PM | sammylg,
I agree, up to a point, with your analysis. My comments were directed at postings in other threads which asserted that gender ratio on POF (or any other venue) has NO effect on an individual's chances.
As a practical matter, "the market" does not consist of all the members of the opposite gender, but only of those who are in a similar age range, and in a narrow geographic range, looking for roughly the same kind of "relationship" . If the ratio within those parameters is against you, the overall numbers on POF won't help you, and that will be true no matter how hard you "work" at it. | |
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| I figured out the girls on POF
Posted: 11/6/2009 3:43:39 PM | I asked two girls what their ideal couch would be (It's an important thing to think about. We're talking the alpha and omega of couches here), and one of them described hers to me. I've already gotten more than I ever expected from this website from that alone.
I think you just set the bar too high by planning to send a metric poopton (That's 2.1 craploads, if you go with imperial) to a bunch of random girls, and expecting them all to want to give you the time of day.
Go hit on twenty girls at a bar or club, and see what the success rate on that is. Odds are they'll see you walking around trying to play the field, and that will hurt your "game". Well on here, most people are going to assume you're doing that by default, so you're likely in an even worse starting position. I guess that's where those roses come into play. | |
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| I figured out the girls on POF
Posted: 11/15/2009 12:48:25 AM | How many average Janes next door are realistic on this site? It seems that most put the same price as rib filet steak on themselves when really they are only worth the value or rump.
It seems that most average women on this site believe they are above average men when the reality is that they are most probably no better than the next average man who emails them.
They are a waste of space and effort | |
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