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| Paying for dinner date with 2 for 1 coupon. Will she be impressed? Posted: 4/21/2007 12:34:18 AM | | Will she be impressed will depend on a few factors. Although general speaking it is probably rude to put the coupon on top of the girl's money without first explaining it to her. If your friend 'negotiated' with the girl saying "I have a couple for 2, maybe we can split the bill in half" would be the nice thing to do. Or if you are short on money you could ask them "Do you mind if I use this coupon? I know it seems silly" I know I'd do that even if it wasn't a date and was with my guy-mates . I think it's just polite to do so instead of acting without explaining. | |
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K-lo
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| Paying for dinner date with 2 for 1 coupon. Will she be impressed? Posted: 4/21/2007 12:54:03 AM |
let's say the guy up front, says hey, why don't we go to this mexican joint, i have a two for one coupon...i think that'd be fine, and if the girl thought that was a joke, i'd ask someone else... Well, I love Mexican food. And I would probably say, "Sweet - - then we can spend that money on a second pitcher of margaritas!" As long as he's showing his true colors (coupon cutter), I suppose he might as well know that I like to toss em back. But, when you phrase it like that, it definitely makes it apparent that he intends to split the bill - - because, otherwise, there really wouldn't be a need to mention the coupon. And then that makes me realize that I'm really not into the whole "going Dutch" thing. I guess if someone asks me to do something, in particular, go on a date, then they're taking me out and they can pay. But, you know, the same goes for a friend or a customer, or anyone that calls up and says, "Can I take you to lunch?" That, to me, says that, for whatever reason, they want to treat me to lunch. So, I accept and am gracious. Likewise, I do the same for others. If I make the effort to invite someone to dine with me, I'm planning on paying for them. Or, if I recommend the restaurant or suggest a venue on my turf - - whether it's the first date or not, then I pay. I like it better that way - - more of a taking turns treating sort of thing, rather than each paying half every time. That way, everyone gets a chance to treat the other, and the other gets the chance to be appreciative of the gesture. Going dutch is all about being PC. It's all so silly.
i like to use the five year rule on stuff like this... I think the 5 years should be shortened, by a lot. If one or the other buys those coupon books and this is someone you're spending the majority of your time with . . . neither should be ashamed to use coupons.
I apparently have a curveball to throw..I was on a date with a girl once and I was ready to pay for the meal and all of a sudden I hear "hold up a second, I think I have a coupon" and she digs one out and it was a B1G1F coupon. I wanted to argue that I didnt want to use her coupon and felt bad, but she insisted. Shes a very thrifty person for her age (23) and she uses coupons all the time for groceries and when she eats out, and Im sure for other things as well. I actually admire a bit of fiscal responsibility in a girl, but it did bug me just a bit. I try to pick the places out now where she wont have a coupon (I hope..).. That's what I was asking about above, and, now again here:
But, how would a guy react if he intended to pay for all of dinner (but wouldn't turn down the offer of the woman paying her half, should she do so), and instead, the woman said, "hey, I have a 2 for 1 coupon for this restaurant - wanna use it?" But, she didn't offer to contribute money - just the coupon. How would the guys respond to that? So, why did it bug you?
I used to get the "Entertainment" books for my area every year, used them a lot w/ my GF at the time, they had 100's of coupons for various restaurants in the area (up to abt 45 mins drive), so we'd look them over and pick a different restaurant to try out. Definitely kept it from being monotonous and rotating around the dozen or so decent restaurants in town... expecially in the summer, a nice evening road trip to some restaurant we've never been to. I totally agree with that scenario. If you and your SO like to dine out together, that's a great way to find new places. It's fun. | |
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| Paying for dinner date with 2 for 1 coupon. Will she be impressed? Posted: 4/21/2007 1:50:29 AM | | Okay I love coupons but using one on a first date is tacky as hell. Then to make matters worse, letting her pay for it and using the coupon for his part? Yuck. She should have kicked him in the nuts right there. Forget dating him again. | |
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| Paying for dinner date with 2 for 1 coupon. Will she be impressed? Posted: 4/21/2007 2:02:44 AM | ::blinks... a lot:: He did what?!? Now if he had paid for entire meal using coupon she might consider him conservative and a smart man for using coupons. But "THAT" was just cheap.
LOL.. I loved it.
Sounds like something I'd pull as a gag. ::wonders where he can find some coupons::
I am type men pay for date, I hope she wasn't very impressed at his stunt. He should have let her use the free coupon for her side of meal. But I am out dated. | |
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| Paying for dinner date with 2 for 1 coupon. Will she be impressed? Posted: 4/21/2007 3:34:17 AM | 2 for 1 coupons!! Thats hilarious.
the guy reaches into his wallet and takes out a two for one coupon and puts it with her money and says "this is for my half".
I would honestly just laugh my ass off. I don't think I would be offended as much as I would kinda feel sorry for the guy. The only person that uses 2 for 1's is my grandmother. | |
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| Paying for dinner date with 2 for 1 coupon. Will she be impressed? Posted: 4/21/2007 3:37:52 AM | | But wait... he did pay his half technically. He was the smarter one to bring a coupon... and what? she is expecting to eat for free!!?? So in some ways i could see him looking like a royal jerk, but he does have his ground to stand on if she's gonna be a c*nt about it. She paid for her's and he had a coupon for his. But to be nice.. I think he should have went halfers on the half bill. That would have made it better | |
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tdh46
| Joined: 1/7/2007 Msg: 33 | |
| Paying for dinner date with 2 for 1 coupon. Will she be impressed? Posted: 4/21/2007 4:57:50 AM | To be totally honest i don't believe in dutch, i don't give a damn how politically correct it is. I think one of the right things to do in dating is that the man should pay when taking a lady out. Just like a man should open the door of the car for a lady and hold doors open for a lady.
If i ask a woman out and she offers to pay for her half of dinner, i will very politely say " thank it's sweet of you to offer, but i would feel better if i paid".
Whenever i am in a restaurant and i see a couple trying to figure out their half of the bill, it just looks tacky to me, I know it's done alot today, but it still looks weird to me when i see it. And if someone was to whip out a coupon on me at the last minute in a restaurant i think i would die of embarrassment.
I have no problem using those 2 for 1 coupons when i am in an established relationship with someone. But i will pass on using them while dating. That's just tacky. | |
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| Paying for dinner date with 2 for 1 coupon. Will she be impressed? Posted: 4/21/2007 6:04:14 AM | To be totally honest i don't believe in dutch, i don't give a damn how politically correct it is. I think one of the right things to do in dating is that the man should pay when taking a lady out. Just like a man should open the door of the car for a lady and hold doors open for a lady.
If i ask a woman out and she offers to pay for her half of dinner, i will very politely say " thank it's sweet of you to offer, but i would feel better if i paid".
Whenever i am in a restaurant and i see a couple trying to figure out their half of the bill, it just looks tacky to me, I know it's done alot today, but it still looks weird to me when i see it. And if someone was to whip out a coupon on me at the last minute in a restaurant i think i would die of embarrassment.
I have no problem using those 2 for 1 coupons when i am in an established relationship with someone. But i will pass on using them while dating. That's just tacky.
I'm with you. Call me old school but in a dating position, I also believe the man should pick up the tab, be a gentleman with opening doors etc. One good thing is that these people make the rest of us look that much better!!
He really should have saved the coupon for say taking his mom out for a nice lunch. That is just soooo tacky to do on a date. LOL A coupon book between a couple is a different situation I think. On a first date it just seems so wrong. I would hae seemed cheap even if he paid for his and used it for hers. But to use it for himself is kinda low. | |
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| Paying for dinner date with 2 for 1 coupon. Will she be impressed? Posted: 4/21/2007 6:14:43 AM | I'm always somewhat perplexed with these dating questions when it never seems to get mentioned that the waiter/waitress never asks at the beginning if the couple want separate cheques...
i see this lousy, untrained aspect of table service quite often in restaurants today, and being an old restaurant manager, i always make the waiter split the bills up at the end whether i'm paying the whole shot or not...kind of my way to saying to the waiter, "had you done your job right in the first place, you wouldn't have to humour with this stupidity right now"...and hopefully he doesn't cause another of our pof daters a horrific dining experience...
I'm with you tdh on the old fashioned part about buying... i like eating out with someone and that to me is often good enough for me to pick up the tab whether it's a lady or one of my chums that thinks 5 quick brown pops is his idea of a good lunch....
If i ask a woman out and she offers to pay for her half of dinner, i will very politely say " thank it's sweet of you to offer, but i would feel better if i paid". I'm with you all the way here on being the perfect gent, but this is also usually when i stick my foot in the door of her mind, and let her know she can either pick up the tab next time, or have me over a meal next time...so this usually means I'm quite interested and think we should eat something at her place maybe next time...maybe even each other for dessert...
t'anks k-lo for your clarification...i had a hunch you might come back in and clear that up for me...i can get so confused with what's right and what's not out there..not really...
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| Paying for dinner date with 2 for 1 coupon. Will she be impressed? Posted: 4/21/2007 7:08:20 AM |
However, the 2 for 1 coupon does have value, and it's fair enough for a fellow if parsimony's his primary objective, to use a coupon instead of cash for his share. His date would be insulted, I'd anticipate, but, she'd lose a Small Claims Court case, which I suppose is a point if such things matter.
Actually, the value of the 2 for 1 coupon is contigent upon her paying under the same bill, usually for equal or more than his share of the meal. If that happened to me, I would call the waitress back and tell her to redo our tabs - give us separate bills. And of course a big tip for the waitress up front to make her effort worth it. Then smile sweetly at my date.  | |
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| Paying for dinner date with 2 for 1 coupon. Will she be impressed? Posted: 4/21/2007 7:24:57 AM | | knowing he intended to use it, he should have refused her offer to pay her share by saying something like....that's ok, i have this coupon, and told her to keep her money, that would have been the chivalrous thing to do. he obviously is not a gentleman. as far as seeing him again, that's up to her. maybe she should talk to him and ask him why he did that. | |
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| Paying for dinner date with 2 for 1 coupon. Will she be impressed? Posted: 4/21/2007 7:29:37 AM | | Brutal! Everyone likes to get a good deal now and then, myself included. However, getting a 2 for 1 dinner deal within the first couple of dates says to me that the person has 'no class'. Zero, in fact. My two cents: save your 2 for 1 dinner coupons for another time when you're better acquainted or, better yet, take a buddy out and get your deal with him. Women want to feel valued and cherished - not like part of a 'deal'. | |
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| Paying for dinner date with 2 for 1 coupon. Will she be impressed? Posted: 4/21/2007 7:33:56 AM | That is just ridiculous. It isn't about using a coupon, it's about using a coupon to cop out of his side of the bill and the woman still pays. I am with the tdh46 and guitarguy. First date, I definitely pay.
I do not see an issue with using coupons or specials when dining out. There are radio stations that run coupon promos for local restaurants here, including very nice restaurants, where you pay $25 and get a $50 certificate or "coupon". If I take someone to a nice dinner and use the $50 coupon to pay for part of the tab, I see nothing wrong with that, and if someone has a problem with that, then she isn't for me. I see nothing wrong if someone is savvy enough to know how to save $25 off of a dinner outing, but still enjoy the same quality dining.
Again, this is not to be confused with the OP's scenario. Completely inexcusable and inappropriate usage of a coupon. | |
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| Paying for dinner date with 2 for 1 coupon. Will she be impressed? Posted: 4/21/2007 8:19:56 AM | | In the case of a radio show coupon the proper thing to say would be "Hey I won this $50 coupon so lets throw it down on the bill and enjoy, on their dime" again, not use it to weasel out of your half. (which again I think is wrong to begin with) | |
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| Paying for dinner date with 2 for 1 coupon. Will she be impressed? Posted: 4/21/2007 8:26:42 AM | | I want to make it clear I would never use anything to weasel out of my half of the bill. Unless the woman insists on going dutch the first meeting, I always cover the whole bill. If I use a certificate to cover both halves of the bill, I do not see the harm in that. I guess the best way is to just say I have a gift certificate for the restaurant. | |
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| Paying for dinner date with 2 for 1 coupon. Will she be impressed? Posted: 4/21/2007 8:33:59 AM | It usually states very clearly on these coupons that the user must present the coupon before the bill is made up (to save the server from having to re-do the bill). So number one the guy was ignorant. The server should have denied him the coupon. If he put it out when he should have, His date would have had time to digest whether or not she wanted to split the remainder part of the bill. I had something like this happen to me once on a first date. He suggested a VERY expensive established restaurant in town. I was impressed. My first clue that something was up, was when the reservations were made for six oclock. Usually the good twofers want early or super late rez es. When he pulled out the coupon, I was surprised and was of two minds. First I thought...'cheap' and then I thought 'what the hell'. I saw him a couple of times after that....but he was true to form......super cheap on all fronts.  | |
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| Paying for dinner date with 2 for 1 coupon. Will she be impressed? Posted: 4/21/2007 8:48:56 AM | tdh46,
I don't see in your posts as to what was decided before the date. I am inclined to base my thoughts on that information. I think who's paying should be decided before you go, whether it's her, him, split or dutch. I do agree waiting till the money exchange is due is a bad time to make those decisions.
However, I think if that's how he wanted to handle it, that's his prerogative. If she wants to pay her half, then she should pay her half, how he pays for his half shouldn't affect her paying for hers.
Of course, it's her prerogative to walk out and consider him persona non grata.
What would have been interesting, is if after they agree to pay for their own, they both whip out 2 for 1 coupons, and then you might get some insight on conflict resolution.
Bob
P.S. I would guess he wasn't that impressed with her. I'm thinking he did this deliberately, figuring if she knocked his socks off, he could offer to pay for everything and leave the coupon in his pocket. If he really liked her, could pay for the whole dinner and but use the coupon, maybe off to the side if he didn't want her to know. And if he wasn't that impressed, do what he did, virtually guaranteeing he would not have to deal with her again. | |
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| Paying for dinner date with 2 for 1 coupon. Will she be impressed? Posted: 4/21/2007 9:05:30 AM | | That's a real mature way of handling someone you're not impressed with. I have met a number of women that I have not been impressed with, a couple real bad ones, but I still have insisted on paying he bill. Not saying he had to pay the whole bill like I chose to do, but it still was a pathetic way to handle a social situation. If your not interested in seeing them again because you "aren't impressed", be man enought to tell them you aren't interested rather than make yourself look like a moron, which this guy ended up doing. | |
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tdh46
| Joined: 1/7/2007 Msg: 48 | |
| Paying for dinner date with 2 for 1 coupon. Will she be impressed? Posted: 4/21/2007 9:41:33 AM | Randoninternetguy, Any man that would go into a first date with a plan as you described is not only cheap but utterly classless. That man is going to be alone for a very long time because that a bad combination to have in the dating world. | |
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| Paying for dinner date with 2 for 1 coupon. Will she be impressed? Posted: 4/21/2007 9:55:53 AM | not always classless tdh...in the scenario you've illustrated yes definitely classless...
...and there are lots of gift certificates given that don't say anything about presenting it before the meal to that one poster...
my point, kind of like internet guy's is if i have my own little nest egg, I might be concerned about, heaven forbid one should happen to exist, meeting a golddigger, so why not go the other way with a woman I'm not sure about and see her response...if she's like half the woman on this post, she's history with a capital H...if she's OK with it, I'll chuckle to myself that i may have finally stumbled onto something with a bit of class, and really kick it into gear for her...jmo
i remember having women all over me at one school i attended down in the Maritimes, then i got the pshit kicked out of me in a martial arts tournament and had to have the right hand side of my face rebuilt...fractured zygoma and all...i had to walk around with this great big long pin hanging out of the side of my face, with a great big cork attached to the end of it, so the pin wouldn't catch on a piece of arm sleeve clothing or bedding when i went to bad at night and rerip my face apart...I learned a lot about people's superficiallness while i had that cork sticking out of the side of my head...Quasimoto had better days than me back then...when it was gone, and the flies came back to the rice, they were told to get lost..
kinda like the gilrs that tell guys to piss off after losing a bunch of weight...
your case here tdh, definitely the guy was a bit of a bland heel, but i have methods for my madness sometimes...muahahahah | |
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tdh46
| Joined: 1/7/2007 Msg: 50 | |
| Paying for dinner date with 2 for 1 coupon. Will she be impressed? Posted: 4/21/2007 10:13:42 AM | | I was always under the impression that on a first date you should always be putting your best foot forward! Somehow whipping out a coupon to pay for your dinner does not say alot about a guy in my eyes. If that's what he does on a first date, I would hate to imagine what he would do once he was in a relationship. | |
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