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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 4/29/2007 7:43:41 AM |
While I agree that when a woman is pregnant she should take care of her body all that much more, I don't see anything wrong with having the occasional drink.
The key word is moderation.
However if this woman was a heavy drinker prior to pregnancy, her body is used to the alcohol and a few drinks wouldn't affect the baby at all.
In controversy, if this woman suffers from withdrawal, this could actually harm the baby.
Same goes for smoking.
WHERE did you get this????
weather the woman is a heavy drinker or not
IT WILL AFFECT THE BABY..(if she has to much of it).
even though her body is use to it. the baby IS NOT it still goes in it's body.
SAME THING WITH SMOKE. | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 4/29/2007 7:46:19 AM | i don't agree with drinking while pregnant.
I never did with either my pregnancy.
But one drink or 2 will not harm the baby. | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 4/29/2007 8:31:01 AM | | Ok, yes, everything a woman does while pregnant affects the baby... what I implied is that having a few drinks will not necessarily have a "negative" effect on the baby, esepcially if she was a heavy drinker 'cause the environment of the unborn child was most likely surrounded with alcholol way before the mother was even aware that she was pregnant... so from day zero, the baby may have been very well used to it ;) | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 4/29/2007 8:46:52 AM | Oh my......
Not necessarily still allows room for CAN happen. Have you ever seen a crack baby? They are "used" to it as well.......so that justifies it?
Bottom line, there is NO justification in this world for putting a child in harms way, regardless of how remote the chances are. Here, let me put it into persepective for you. Would you put a glass of wine in your newborns bottle? Perhaps a shot of tequila? | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 4/30/2007 6:09:33 PM | | Nevaehs_mom, your experience is a very unique one, it is not the standard one. | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 6/2/2007 9:50:37 PM | maybe she was an alcoholic and the stress of being an addict and not having one or two drinks could have caused her and her unborn baby more stress without having it, just as women who smoke ciggarettes and slowly try to quit during... same goes with other drugs, especially like heroin its supposed to be worse to quit completely while your pregnant if you were an addict for a quite a while before.
Different drugs and alcohol affect people differently... what one person might be able to handle another person couldnt at all.
if there isnt a law on who is allowed to have children, weather diseased, drug addicts, poor or homeless, there isnt going to be a law on what a mother can put into her system while pregnant.
There are many mothers who have drank while pregnancy because they didnt know they were pregnant and their children have turned out fine. There is so much advertising about fetal alcohol syndrom because there was alot of women in the past who drank constantly during pregnancy and it wasnt really known to be bad then, they are doing whatever they can now to make people realize how bad it really is and that it is an important factor in child development... especially at the begining(body and organ development) and ending of a pregnancy(brain development). | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 6/2/2007 11:38:31 PM | its not like your putting alcohol directly into your babys stomach, the baby tends to take only what it needs from you, and yes alcohol can harm and affect a baby, but it does go through the mothers system first before it enters the blood stream and into the baby.
its completely different than putting alcohol into a newborns bottle... how can someone even compare the two? that is just ridiculous to talk about. | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 6/3/2007 4:29:43 PM | As someone mentions, you can't control what a pregnant women wants, it's their body, it's their choice. However, I can see how a waitress/server at a restaurant could say no, cuz it's a liability issue if the pregnant woman would sue if something happen to the baby. It's like suing mcd's cuz you're overweight and it's their fault. so now you see more restaurants giving you healthy menu's and so forth. which is riduclous but they do it for liability. Perhaps they can give them a bottle and let them read the warning label of pregnant women shouldn't drink alcohol lol.
Personally, while I was pregnant I didn't drink, whatever I eat/drink goes to teh baby. Yes I do find it wrong that those drink or smoke, but whatever, I can't do anything about it, so I guess if they can handle the consequence of what happens to their baby due to their drinking or smoking, then they need to live with what they do. | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 6/4/2007 9:20:10 AM |
its not like your putting alcohol directly into your babys stomach, the baby tends to take only what it needs from you, and yes alcohol can harm and affect a baby, but it does go through the mothers system first before it enters the blood stream and into the baby.
its completely different than putting alcohol into a newborns bottle... how can someone even compare the two? that is just ridiculous to talk about.
Whoa, hold the boat. It IS exactly like putting alcohol in the babbies bottle only worse since the kid doesn't have the option to spit the bottle out or refuse to drink it. Alcohol crosses the placental blood barrier with extreme ease, and what does alcohol from ANYONE's stomache do? .... Ohh it gets absorbed into the blood stream so it can reach the brain and cause impairment .... If "mommy" is tanked so is the fetus.
As for 2 oz per day of beer, hmmm twelve ounce bottles that is pretty much one beer a week taken a little at a time, you can bet this woman did not ask for a couple ounces of beer. Same thing goes for the small amounts some doc's suggest for women having trouble when starting breast feeding.
And for "taking only what they need" ... Pfft ya all of those "flipper" babies mistakenly thought as a fetus that they needed thalidomide .......
Really I cannot get over the people trying to justify this persons "right" to do whatever she wants. Each of our personal liberties stop right where they begin to infringe upon others liberties or health. Period. | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 6/4/2007 9:23:41 AM | | I didnt read all the posts, but, isnt this considered "child endangerment"? | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 6/4/2007 1:16:41 PM | | I had a prego order a drink from me. I know the law so I made it but I made it hella weak. She ordered another shot to put in it. Bad mama. I'm not gonna lie though I had like a half of glass of red at least twice during my pregnancy. | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 6/4/2007 2:43:28 PM |
I didnt read all the posts, but, isnt this considered "child endangerment"?
Drinking to excess probably is, but not one glass. | |
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Posted: 6/5/2007 2:08:41 AM | "I would have no more than 2 cups of coffee in a day."..........
"You are not going to walk downtown, and be forced a drink."
So, were you walking down the street when someone forced you to drink that coffee?!! You say alcohol is something you can totally be rid of, well, so was the coffee hun. I try to avoid these forum things because I deal with enough judgmental people in my life, but I couldn't resist this one. Let's face facts; according to some doctor or nurse or someone who thinks they know something, everything can harm your baby. So I'm going to discuss some of them. I'm not trying to pick on you, but you're the one who started these 5 pages of mixed opinions, some decent and some crap, so you get to be my example. Yay for you!
In your profile, you look pretty thin. Did you know to have a healthy pregnancy, there is a set weight you should gain during pregnancy for each body type? So, tell me how much did you gain with each one, and I'll tell you if it was healthy!
I also hope you avoided deli meats while pregnant because some studies show that they're bad. A lot of people wouldn't eat an uncooked hot dog, but I sure hope you didn't while pregnant because those are bad too. And I hope if you like peanuts and ate them while pregnant, that you knew your whole familie's history, because if any of them had allergies, then that can be bad too.
I'm not going to even get into all the different opinions on sex while pregnant and the different stages and all that drama, so I hope you did your own research in that area!
I hope you didn't sleep in a water bed or spend an excess amount of time lying on your back. But did you know it is safe to sleep on your stomach just uncomfortable?
I'm sure the safety queen that you are, you disabled the airbags in your vehicle and any other vehicles you rode in because I'm sure you know there's still studies in progress trying to prove they can harm your baby.
This is one of my favorites for you, working in a bar during pregnancy and all. I really hope that they didn't play any music in that bar you work at because.....studies show that it's hard to measure exactly how much noise can affect a developing baby, and low pitch music like bass guitars and such are amplified by the amniotic fluid!!! But I'm sure you put ear muffs on your belly or something.
The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) joins other organizations such as the American Medical Association (AMA), the American Dietetic Association (ADA), and the World Health Organization (WHO) in recommending breastfeeding as the best for babies. So since you didn't breastfeed your children, and that's obviously the safest choice, you must not have cared as much about them as the mothers who did breastfeed. Another thing, most mothers put pictures of their kids on their profile or at least mention them in their about me section. You must not be as proud of your kids as other mothers because you didn't.
Now away from all the research, here's some of my personal experience. I think birth defects and such are a combination of different factors, not just one. Now of course, getting trashed every night of pregnancy can cause FAS, but one, two, three, and even four or a few more in a whole pregnancy will not usually. I laugh at all you people who think it's so easy to give up an addiction for nine months, obviously you've never had a real one. I'm a smoker, I drink socially, and I like my Mountain Dew! "Smoking can cause low birth weight babies and prematurity." I smoked about a pack a day all through my pregnancy and roomed with another smoker (second hand also). My baby girl was overdue by a ways and they actually induced me, and she was almost 9 lbs. I did drink a few alcoholic beverages while pregnant, and also still drank at least one of my Mt Dews a day. My baby girl's incredibly healthy and more advanced than a lot of kids her age. Same with everyone of my friend's babies who smoked and had a few drinks. Then there are those who were perfect and did everything right during pregnancy, and they or their child had problems. You can't predict what's going to cause something, so stop trying!
And for those of you OVERLY religous people, and don't quote me on this because I'm not one of them, religous belief says something about God has our lives planned out before we are even born, and that everything happens for a reason. So, those birth defect babies obviously have them for a reason, and if God had that planned, then the mother's actions don't even matter, huh?! I'm sure that my comments, especially the religion one upset a lot of people, but a lot of your comments upset me (she didn't love her God-given unborn child just because she ordered a single drink in a bar...oh, get real), so stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
I think these forums are stupid, especially this one because the person you sit here and talk crap about is not here to defend herself and her actions. Have any of you ever had someone talk bad about you or really had your feelings hurt? Probably and you probably heard it and confronted them. She can't!
I'm usually not judgmental, but a lot of you asked for it in your comments, and my blame goes to the person who started this waste of time forum. So, stop bringing up stupid crap and forcing judgment on people, because from your profile and all your posts I've read, you're so not one to talk!
P.S. I've got a list of all my pregnancy facts, so if someone would like to criticize or judge them, feel free! | |
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| pure stupidity
Posted: 6/17/2007 11:45:27 PM | well, it has been a while since I have logged on to this site, so forgive me for the delay.
I've got to hand it to you, amos8494, you've figured me out!
Yes, I was walking down the street when somebody forced coffee into my body..
On a serious note:
Yes, Im thin. it's a family trait. I didn't gain much at all with my pregnancies, maybe peak gain of 30 lbs, IF that. All of them were over 8lbs at birth, and have to date no health problems. Same goes for me-healthy as can be.
I spent my time during the day eating deli meat, uncooked hot-dogs, peanuts (even though there is a history of allergies in my family). I had a tonne of sex, while laying on my back on a water-bed. Hardly the safety queen, as I didn't bother disabling airbags...Spent all my time at rock concerts, close to the stage ( wanted those babies to have a taste for music)......
The reason for not breastfeeding my children, is like you said, I don't care about them as other mothers care for their breastfed children. And also am not proud of them, and that is the reason their pictures are not plastered all over my profile. I just don't care enough to write about them either.
Im glad you have me figured out. Thank you for reading my profile, and previous posts. Im really not one to talk... what a smart woman you are. And good for you for being perfect. Give your kid a beer for me!
Maybe If I ever decide to have more children, I will drink alcohol, (and mountain dew), smoke like a chimney, and then, the breastfeeding will equal it out??? is that how it works?
I don't know... | |
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Posted: 6/17/2007 11:59:32 PM | by the way, I checked out your profile also....
one picture of the kid- one line about the little angel....
YOU MUST NOT GIVE A SHIT.
hahahaha you're too funny.. smart and hypoctitcal... LOL | |
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Posted: 6/18/2007 6:55:27 AM | | In response to the OP, WTF!!! It has NOTHING to do with a waiteress/barmaid if a pregnant lady wants a drink!! FFS, it could have been the one and only drink she had through her whole pregnancy, and that is beside the point, it is not for a BARMAID to decide this, what qualifications does SHE have in maternity? I drank very occasionally (ie a glass of wine with a meal occasionally) while pregnant. Shoot me now! | |
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Posted: 6/18/2007 7:02:34 AM | | Alochoal and tobacco use during pregnacy have been linked to many birth disorders. Children are being born with ADHD for example because of drinking during pregnacy. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2007 7:37:28 AM | | Sure, excessive drinking is wrong during pregnancy, but who is a barmaid to make a decision for a pregnant lady who may have not even had a single drink during her pg, and was having one that night! | |
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Posted: 6/18/2007 7:37:52 AM | ok "foxyfoxymama" lose the attitude you've got on "BARMAIDS" it's a job like any other. And not that it matters, the waitress that I mentioned in the opening post was in fact a mother. And I guess since you know all the answers, what qualifications do YOU have in maternity?? what kind of stupid question is that?
I really am shocked at the amount of people who are willing to drink while pregnant. I have honestly never heard so many people who never found a problem with it. I thought with this thread there would be a bunch of people who found it appauling..but I was proved wrong. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2007 7:45:57 AM | Drinking during pregnacy is wrong IMO. i would certainly not condone it.
You wonder why so many children are being diagnosed with mental illnesses and various health issues. A large part of it has to do with poor decisions by pregnant mothers. Mess with your own lives not with the lives of an unborn child.  | |
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Posted: 6/18/2007 9:04:33 AM | Op:
Problems will always arise when you try to inflict your will onto others.
Here in Ontario all licensed establishment are required to post (in plain view) a government issued poster describing the concerns regarding pregnancy and alcohol.
Warning labels adorn cigarette packages, and numerous consumer products and services.
Once people are informed, the choice is theirs to make.
Denying them that choice infringes on their individual rights and freedoms.
Perhaps you'd like to lobby government officials to make it illegal to consume alcohol during pregnancy.
Gather support and start advertising your concerns through printed publications and television commercials.
This is your choice and your chance to express your opinion while using the appropriate format.
Be thankful that you don't have to work in a situation that forces you to break your moral standards. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2007 9:19:45 AM | I don't even see why there would be any argument about drinking while pregnant? Studies have shown it can cause damage to the unborn child, and obviously FAS if enough alcohol is consumed.
The fact is that every pregnant woman is different and how their bodies react while pregnant is also different. What might be healthy and fine for one, may be dangerous for another. So why even risk it? Why drink at all for those 9 months? | |
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Posted: 6/19/2007 10:07:08 PM | I really am shocked at the amount of people who are willing to drink while pregnant. I have honestly never heard so many people who never found a problem with it. I thought with this thread there would be a bunch of people who found it appauling..but I was proved wrong.
Sorry, HAK531...this is 21st century North America. Here people justify their personal actions (including drinking and smoking during pregnancy) as the natural/norm based on their own self-interest and anectdotal evidence. Few in this day and age are willing to accept anyone implying that whatever they want to do isn't right, regardless of the dangers to themselves or others (in this case unborn children).
They could play russian roulette with their children and if the gun didn't blow their children's brains out they'd see it as proof positive that russian roulette is perfectly safe (and therefore they should be allowed to continue to play it). If others don't like it, they should start a petition to make russian roulette illegal. Until then, its game on...load another round in the chamber and spin that cylinder, baby! | |
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Posted: 6/20/2007 1:26:18 AM | Hey, just trying to give you a dose of the judgement you gave the poor girl who ordered a single drink! If you don't want to receive it, don't dish it out! You're right, I am a hypocrit but so are you for judging her. Just trying to show you there's a lot of shit out there that is bad during pregnancy.
Yeah, I only have one picture of my daughter, and then one of me by myself. You have one out of your 3 kids, and the rest of you drinkin it up!  Cheers! And because you either can't read or count or something, I at least had TWO lines about my little angel. Your profile pretty much just says you don't want anymore kids, and who can blame you with 3 at 23.
You made one semi-correct statement! I must not give a shit. You're wrong because I do give a shit about my child!!! But you're right - I don't give a shit about stuff like you, or your mothering skills, or your stupid opinions, or this forum!
You can reply to this or not, but you'll be wasting your breath because I'm done with this forum, and I won't hold my breath waiting for your reply, so you may as well go back to the bar! | |
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Posted: 6/20/2007 7:33:10 AM | first of all, I find it hard to believe you aren't going to come back and check for a response...
it doesn't make me a hypocrite for thinking it is wrong to drink while pregnant, as I never drank while I was pregnant. Yeah, of course there are a lot of things that are not healthy during pregnancy, but we're discussing alcohol.
This is a dating site. I don't think it is nessecary to post pictures of my children. If people are really concerned that they don't see pictures of them, then they are here for the wrong reasons. I think it is enough to just mention that I have children, and not wanting to have any more..if people are interested in talking at that point then great. I don't think that those people who have a lot of photos of their kids are wrong..it just isn't something I am about to do. And I am not going to give that same old boring line, about how "my kids are my life" "I wouldn't change them for the world" come on. that is a given. but enough about that.
Yeah, i can't read or count....haha...you made some generic statement about your kid. nothing personal..... the same old crap that everybody says. but hey..TWO LINES!!!!! wow...
Of course you give a shit about your child.. the majority of people do. And well, yes you do give a shit about people like me, and forums such as this one..because you came back to post..
I guess I'll "go back to the bar"..haha I haven't worked in a bar for a year now. and what does it matter.. Im not pregnant | |
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