| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 11/8/2007 6:16:29 PM | | It may not be law for someone to drink while pregnant, so maybe the waitress was required to then serve her, but people are able to make decisions as long as they are prepared for the repercussions. You have to admire the server's integrity. | |
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Joined: 10/13/2007
Msg: 202 | |
| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 11/9/2007 2:56:08 PM | Let's get real, about real people with common sense. When i was pregnant, my natural instincts told me to stay away from what could be potentially harmful to my unborn child. They included: alcohol, cigarettes (i was a heavy smoker), wild bar scenes...(wouldn't want some drunk accidentially stumbling into my preg belly)
Passing a law is silly, it'll just get broken like the rest of them. And yes, children are a gift from God, don't tell me, ask me:) | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 11/9/2007 6:51:26 PM | | I don't see many people willing to contribute to this topic, I feel (correct me if i'm wrong!) it may be a little too close to home for reality, i.e. many people have drank alcohol whilst pregnant.....that is a damn shame if you ask me, but a reflection of the society we live in! It becomes less excusable as things evolve and we have the ability to see our unborn baby's features and every finger and toe! | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 12/3/2007 9:16:48 PM | You are absolutely right.. in regards to moral dillema of not wanting a pregnant woman to drink... on the other hand it is not our decision... but I do believe that refusing to serve should be accepted...
They reserve a right to serve to ppl seen as being "too drunk"... why not allow to reserve a right to serve alcoholic beverages to protect the unborn child???
This in my eyes is child abuse... hence such women should have never gotten pregnant...and neverless become mothers. (small amount by some weird doc order,.. *** and really ppl... I would want to know the reasons behind a doctor ordering you to drink alcoholic beverages while pregnant****)
I've never heard of this before and I do work in a health care field... so I m thinking this is bs. Really what's next : small amount of pot smoking, cigarette smoking, doing little coke, extacy, heroin.. all healthy and good for the babe unless its abused... and taken to extreme... For reall..... drinking while pregnant... I don't even want to hear it... | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 12/3/2007 11:14:55 PM | I am a Nurse and absolutely do not agree with a pregnant Female drinking or doing drugs. But I am not hear to judge people , regardless of my personal feelings.
Same for you , you shouldn't judge anyone. Do your job, put your personal feelings aside. To that patron your feelings dont matter to her and your opinion is just that your opinion.
Besides refusing to get her beverage could back fire on you, she could file a law suit for discrimination. And win too. So serve her and go on. She will suffer any long term problems, if there are any. | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 12/4/2007 2:41:05 AM | | NO, SHE won't, her innoccent child will! And she'll get what she deserves but her baby on the other hand, well where was it's choice? Good for the barmaid for standing up for what she believed in, there should be more people like her! And i disagree, it's not her job to serve pregnant women alcohol, and i don't suppose it's a dilemma bar people face too often, so she handled it the way she thought she ought to. | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 12/5/2007 12:46:27 PM | | man, whoever you are whoever is drinking while pregnant must realize that the baby doesnt get to decide and drinking while pregnant may not "look" like anything happend to the baby but think long term. ADHD. Learning problems in school, AFS, and many more....stupid stupid people who do this should be shot...i think the courts and CPS should be able to put this person in lockup until the baby is born..... | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 12/5/2007 6:53:25 PM | | ^^^I don't think locking a woman up would help her mental state and would probably be quite harmful to the baby. | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 12/6/2007 8:11:09 AM | Well some women have self control when it comes to drink and some dont, i know a woman who's children were all born with some form of brain damage and are now in care..so beter safe than sorry | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 12/6/2007 10:08:50 AM | it is a crime and we all understand what it does to the unborn child .
no shirt ,,no shoes.. ,pregnant women ..no service
if they can ban smokeing ,,,,then they can ban serving pregnent women .. | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 12/6/2007 9:34:57 PM | | Her body, her choice? People like that end up on the dole anyway. We'll take care of them whether the kid's retarded (like the mother clearly is) or not. | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 12/7/2007 4:06:22 AM | | ^^^What has dole got to do with people drinking while pregnant? There are working mothers who drink while pregnant also just as there are women on benefits who do not drink while pregnant, there is no corrolation between the 2 things. | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 12/7/2007 9:05:19 AM | There are working mothers who drink while pregnant also just as there are women on benefits who do not drink while pregnant, there is no corrolation between the 2 things
yes there is .. the poster above you is correct ..if the mother is drinking while pregnant she wont be working long ,,she will be looking after a baby with problems..and on the dole..
her body her choice my ass.,,another stupid right abused ...i say ban it just like second hand smoke ... | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 12/7/2007 12:22:17 PM | | Your friend was absolutely correct not to serve the drink. I think alot of people who have not cared for a child addicted to alcohol or drugs do not understand. While this woman may not be an alcoholic or addict I worked in neonatal intensive care and would have mothers say " I drank a glass of wine once or smoked pot once!" "Did I cause this to happen?" I can never honestly answer and supporters of this behavior do not see that there are links to learning, emotional and social problems which may not be diagnosed for years. One drink can cause a fetus to be intoxicated. Tell your friend BRAVO!! | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 12/11/2007 4:48:55 PM | this also mean stop selling pregnant pregnant women cigarettes, junk food, ... well yes it does ,,,in fact they are trying to pass a law where parents aren't allowed to smoke in the car with there kids..second hand smoke ..the junk food comment ,,i like the idea but a pregnant women craving can be nasty and i wouldn't go there .. | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 12/11/2007 5:02:15 PM | | One easy word.. F.A.S.D No i wouldn't serve her i'd ask another member of staff to do so right infront of her face..would you serve a newborn baby a glass of wine.. i doubt it. | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 12/11/2007 5:36:30 PM |
alcohol does not enter the breastmilk directly. and also, you can pump and discard a few times if need be. this is not something I know from experience though.
Actually, there is no need to pump and dump, as alcohol is processed out of breastmilk in the same amount of time that it is processed out of the blood. It is recommended that you not drink while breastfeeding an infant under 3 months of age because even though very little enters the milk supply, infants process alcohol at 1/2 the speed of an adult and it can be very taxing on their little underdeveloped livers.
However, if you drink one drink immediately after breastfeeding, and baby is going 3 hours without nursing, you should be fine. (since it is processed completely out of the blood in that amount of time). And when I say one drink, I don't mean a double deuce. 1 beer is 12 oz, a glass of wine is 5 oz. | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 12/11/2007 5:52:23 PM |
i think that it could be made a law. I mean, perhaps making it illegal to allow a pregnant woman to drink may be difficult, because yes she could just do it at home. But I think it would be possible to make it illegal to serve her in a bar. Just like you can't stop minors from drinking. You can deny entrance to a minor, and deny sales to a minor and they will find a way. But we could at least stop permitting pregnant woman to be served. Then it is completely on her, and nobody else has to be partially responsible for the outcome, if any.
So, should every woman with a belly be required to pee on a stick and come up with a minus sign in order to be served alcohol? I mean, there are women who LOOK pregnant but aren't.
FWIW, I am pregnant and don't drink. While I don't believe that the occasional glass of wine will cause FAE, it's just not something I am willing to risk. | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 12/12/2007 10:05:01 AM | So, should every woman with a belly be required to pee on a stick and come up with a minus sign in order to be served alcohol? I mean, there are women who LOOK pregnant but aren't
no ,a simple yes or no i am not pregnant when asked would be a start ,it can be just like drinking and driving and we don't have a problem enforcing the law,,there will always be some who feel they can still drive ok and they aren't drunk after a few .there will also be some women who insist drinking doesn't harm there unborn baby.. | |
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Joined: 10/14/2006
Msg: 221 | |
| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 12/12/2007 3:27:02 PM | nice heated debate going on in here.
Hmmm, if i were serving, hypothetically speaking, i'd say i would prolly go with my values on the issue and wouldnt serve a pregnant mom. I think it wrong. If it meant losing my job so be it...So many other jobs out there, its not worth going against what you believe in. | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 12/16/2007 9:45:21 PM | This says it all
http://www.kidshealth.org/parent/medical/brain/fas.html  | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 2/15/2008 10:43:50 AM | Just found this today, and thought it was *somewhat* relative to this discussion....
Pregnant woman accused of assault at bar Thu Feb 14, 10:46 PM ET
ROCHESTER, Pa. - A woman who is seven months pregnant is accused of smashing a beer bottle against a bartender's head after she was refused another drink. Police said Keisharra Abercrombie, 30, assaulted the female bartender on Saturday after being told she shouldn't be drinking alcohol.
Police say Abercrombie also smashed a glass over the bartender's ear and head.
Authorities said the bartender's ear was partially detached. A surgeon in Pittsburgh used two staples and 28 stitches to reattach the top of the ear.
Abercrombie was arraigned Wednesday on charges of aggravated assault, simple assault, harassment and reckless endangerment. She was in the Beaver County Jail on $25,000 bail.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080215/ap_on_fe_st/odd_pregnant_woman_charged;_ylt=AkCwrnLcbrhjKaz04CVuetztiBIF | |
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| pregnant and drinking
Posted: 8/4/2008 11:03:48 PM |
This in my eyes is child abuse... hence such women should have never gotten pregnant...and neverless become mothers. (small amount by some weird doc order,.. *** and really ppl... I would want to know the reasons behind a doctor ordering you to drink alcoholic beverages while pregnant****)
The day after Christmas my fiance and I found out we were expecting. On New Years Eve, we announced the news to his friends, and I had a sip of champagne. In March my fiance was robbed and murdered while working. At 3 months along (still high risk for miscarriage) my doctors asked if I had relapsed and started smoking again. I had, and my OB said that as long as I was not smoking as heavily as before, it would be better than the stress my body was under - since we had just quit smoking together early in the pregnancy. She also told me that a glass of RED wine every now and then (maybe once a month) to help me through the sleepless nights wouldn't do the baby any more harm than the stress.
I have only had a few glasses of wine over the past few months, but I have been smoking on days that are more stressful. I sometimes get dirty looks, and I proceed to tell those people what I've been through. Do you think I should have never gotten pregnant? I can say for sure if I didn't have the birth of my son to look forward to, I would be in the grave next to my fiance. Do you think I shouldn't be a mother? Or maybe that I won't be a good one? I love this child with every ounce of my being. It is the one part of my best friend and soulmate that I have left. I know that the smoking has helped manage my stress, which possibly SAVED my son's life. How dare you presume that I won't love and nurture this child as much - if not more - than some of the other parents I have seen. You are entitled to your opinion, but that is a harsh and extremely judgmental thing to say.
I'm happy to report my OB is thrilled with my progress - I'm right on track with weight gain, he doesn't look underweight at all, he is as active as he should be, and I have 3 weeks until my due date (Aug. 28) and it's unlikely he will come early. I can't say he'll never have any problems, but I prepared to take those as/if they come. I read and talk to him constantly, play music for him, and continue to tell him how much I love him and how much his dad did too. You may want to consider what any of us may be going through before you are so quick to judge. Instead of the role of mom (and maybe a part time job), planning a wedding, going back to school, and building a family...my focus is now on raising my son without the love of my life, working full time, and finishing my last few classes for my BA in Spanish, and getting certification for medical transcription. If you think I am not responsible enough to be a mother when I clearly have my priorities straight, no one will ever meet your ludicrously high standards. I'm not looking for pity, just hoping you will see that judging others without knowing anything about their situation can come back to bite you in the @$$. Something to think about. | |
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