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 forumschick

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Should basic English language skills be required for LEGAL citizenship?
Posted: 7/2/2009 7:09:18 AM
I do agree with 'optimistically' completely; ‘when in Rome…’ I also think that we can attribute the progressive division of this country to diversity as well, but then again I could be wrong…


These are businesses that have chosen to make their profits on the backs of illegal aliens or they recently immigrated that they can pay a lower wage. By allowing these language requirements we are discriminating against the born citizens of this country in favor of the immigrated citizens who have created this problem.


Though I do agree with the fact that anyone and everyone, whether born in the US or immigrated, should have a decent command of the English language I beg to differ on the above; the reason they are hiring people who speak additional languages is only to provide unnecessary comfort to foreigners. I don’t really think that we are discriminating against anyone but more so enabling people to continue giving us a reason to complain about not speaking English, hence the need for twelve pages on this subject.

Immigrated citizens, whether legal or illegal are not who created this problem, we are; American Citizens period. You want it stopped, so let’s stop it already!


Why don't we put it to a vote? The simple answers is that no politician wants to sponsor such legislation for fear of alienating any potential voters. I think if you polled the vast majority of Americans you would find support for establishing English as the national language. However, once again our Politicians are struck impotent by the fear of the loss of a few votes. They have lost contact with the needs and wants of Americans and are operating purely upon what is best for their political career rather than what is best for the country.

Precisely, the interests and concerns of the American People are of no importance to the people who can actually do something about it.

However, we elect them… or do we?
 jack-d-ripper

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Should basic English language skills be required for LEGAL citizenship?
Posted: 7/9/2009 4:10:00 AM
English is required in China after the 3rd grade........


a very good TED

http://www.ted.com/talks/jay_walker_on_the_world_s_english_mania.html
 NoBushLover

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Should basic English language skills be required for LEGAL citizenship?
Posted: 7/10/2009 7:51:41 AM
No, because if it were required, people like you would be deprived of citizenship. Your OP is filled with errors of grammar, etc


As our "leaders" look at the issue of immigration reform should they look at adopting a requirement that would require some proficiency of the English language before citizenship is granted?


There should be a comma after the word "reform"


It would seem obvious to me that some minimal ability in the national language should be required before we grant citizenship. This will at least ensure that the new citizen would be able to be productive in the work place, seek assistance and be able to be productive in society.


The phrase "at least" should have commas both before and after it. And it's improper to say "be able to be productive". It should say "...the new citizen would be productive" (which is an error in fact. Knowing english does not ensure productivity.)


Without this requirement we will slowly move our nation to a nation of Spanish speaking people.


There should be a comma after the word "requirement"


In more situations than I care to count I have felt like the immigrant when I am surrounded by Spanish speaking people.


Another missing comma after the word "count"


As a people Hispanic immigrants are less likely to assimilate into our culture than other immigrant groups.


Another missing comma after the word "people"


They are interested in being in America yet do not want to be Americans.


Another missing comma after the word "America"


They want the benefits of American citizenship but not the responsibilities that it entails.


Congratulations!! You Managed to get a whole sentence out without any grammar mistakes. You must be proud to be american


Should there be a minimum English language proficiency required for citizenship?


If there were such a test,you'd obviously fail it.
 Barbe1963

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Posted: 7/10/2009 8:04:14 AM
You Managed to get a whole sentence out without any grammar mistakes. You must be proud to be american


Shouldn't American be capitalized, and perhaps some ending punctuation?
We should also consider calling in the grammar police because managed should not be capitalized.


Grammar In a Nutshell

Three little words you often see Are articles - an, a, and the.

A noun is the name of anything As school, or garden, hoop, or swing.

Adjectives tell the kind of noun, As great, small, pretty, white, or brown.

Instead of nouns the pronouns stand - Her head, his face, your arm, my hand.

Verbs tell of something being done - To read, count, laugh, sing, jump, or run.

How things are done the adverbs tell, As slowly, quickly, ill, or well.

Conjunctions join the words together As men and women, wind or weather.

The prepositions stand before A noun, as in or through the door.

The interjections show surprise As Oh! How pretty! Ah! How wise!

The whole are called the nine parts of speech, Which reading, writing, speaking teach.

Anyone else remember this little gem?

Grammar In a Nutshell

Three little words you often see Are articles - an, a, and the.

A noun is the name of anything As school, or garden, hoop, or swing.

Adjectives tell the kind of noun, As great, small, pretty, white, or brown.

Instead of nouns the pronouns stand - Her head, his face, your arm, my hand.

Verbs tell of something being done - To read, count, laugh, sing, jump, or run.

How things are done the adverbs tell, As slowly, quickly, ill, or well.

Conjunctions join the words together As men and women, wind or weather.

The prepositions stand before A noun, as in or through the door.

The interjections show surprise As Oh! How pretty! Ah! How wise!

The whole are called the nine parts of speech, Which reading, writing, speaking teach.

Grammar In a Nutshell

Three little words you often see Are articles - an, a, and the.

A noun is the name of anything As school, or garden, hoop, or swing.

Adjectives tell the kind of noun, As great, small, pretty, white, or brown.

Instead of nouns the pronouns stand - Her head, his face, your arm, my hand.

Verbs tell of something being done - To read, count, laugh, sing, jump, or run.

How things are done the adverbs tell, As slowly, quickly, ill, or well.

Conjunctions join the words together As men and women, wind or weather.

The prepositions stand before A noun, as in or through the door.

The interjections show surprise As Oh! How pretty! Ah! How wise!

The whole are called the nine parts of speech, Which reading, writing, speaking teach.

Grammar In a Nutshell

Three little words you often see Are articles - an, a, and the.

A noun is the name of anything As school, or garden, hoop, or swing.

Adjectives tell the kind of noun, As great, small, pretty, white, or brown.

Instead of nouns the pronouns stand - Her head, his face, your arm, my hand.

Verbs tell of something being done - To read, count, laugh, sing, jump, or run.

How things are done the adverbs tell, As slowly, quickly, ill, or well.

Conjunctions join the words together As men and women, wind or weather.

The prepositions stand before A noun, as in or through the door.

The interjections show surprise As Oh! How pretty! Ah! How wise!

The whole are called the nine parts of speech, Which reading, writing, speaking teach.


Perhaps so, but if you are going to throw rocks, you might want to step outside the glass house first!

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 NoBushLover

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Should basic English language skills be required for LEGAL citizenship?
Posted: 7/10/2009 8:07:52 AM
^^Your post would make more sense if I thought grammar were important enough to base citizenship on.
Should basic English language skills be required for LEGAL citizenship?
Posted: 7/10/2009 9:51:12 AM

If there were such a test,you'd obviously fail it.


Wow, welcome back, NBL. We have missed the little rays of sunshine you bring to the forums.

It is just like you to attack the OP when you have nothing of value to add to the conversation. Or, in this case, when you don't understand the premise of the original post.

You continue to make yourself look petty and petulant when you attack the OP rather than the idea that is presented.

Lastly, your response does not even address the topic at hand. The OP was not about the placement, inclusion or exclusion of a few commas. Rather it was about requiring basic English language communication skills in order to gain citizenship. If you have any ideas about that I would be happy to read them. If not, keep your editorial comments to yourself.
 SAguy_06

Joined: 12/29/2005
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Should basic English language skills be required for LEGAL citizenship?
Posted: 7/13/2009 8:26:43 AM
My best friend's wife's grandfather was Polish...He didnt speak a word of English. He was 77 when I first met him. He was strong as a horse. He lived on his small 1000 acre homestead in a small polish community about 50 miles from my city. He reared his family, raised crops and cattle and had no reason to speak English. Speaking English didnt make him American. Living a good and Decent life did.

......................Oh BTW, English is Not the official Language of America.
 NoBushLover

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Should basic English language skills be required for LEGAL citizenship?
Posted: 7/13/2009 10:59:24 AM
If having basic english language skills was a requirement for citizenship, we'd have to deport bush and sarah palin
 fedman

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Posted: 7/23/2009 8:23:47 AM
Anyone should be required to speak English!! I think its so shitty when other come to America and make a living here, get free heslth care(an camal jockeys do) , pay less taxes, protest against our religious beliefs while calling us prejuduce for NOT wanting us to pursue ours!
 NoBushLover

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Posted: 7/23/2009 10:11:33 AM
When are you going to learn English?


I think its so shitty when other come to America


"other come" is not English. The English language requires subject/verb agreement with regards to singular/plural.

Also, "heslth" and "camal" are not English words. Please translate those words into English.
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