By the way, thanks for giving us a good example of what I was saying: It's the Atheists who are ill-mannered. It's the Atheists who feel a need to angrily criticize others' beliefs. ...even though they haven't been able to defend their own ontological belief, Physicalism. In fact, it's only the Atheists, for the most part, who even feel a need to debate about others' beliefs on this thread's question.

Yes they do. I am an atheist and I merely do not believe.

Comparing those who believe in higher power to some ... who believe the radio or whatever is delivering messages is similar to believing in god !!!!.... is like grasping for straws. A very poor argument.

People who believe in god often do not have mental issue problems. Is this what you are suggesting?Yuck. Tacky.

Really...what religious ideas espoused do you have a problem with?

You are stretching the point when you say that those who believe are in need of
mental correction. Frankly, I find your point of view in this regard ...starvation of logic and tantamount to repression.

And insulting to those who believe with grace and dignity. Step back and allow people the freedom of existence. Now..here's how "God" may speak to you and all of the rest:
Silently and with such stealth that you may never understand that you have been spoken to.

Which history books?

World History. Tell me you refute whats in History? These are events that have already occurred.

Certainly you can tell me if these things really happened?

Being a non-believer runs through everything in ones life.

I'm calling a belief that something doesn't exist a belief.

If I told you I saw a polar bear swimming, would you believe me? Or do you need to see the polar bear actually swimming? Because you don't believe polar bears can swim..

But an Atheist doesn't merely not believe in God. An Atheist has a positive belief that there is no God.

You have no evidence that the Magical Shoe has no connection to life

My Spiritual values which are often Religious values are:
a sense of wonder
forgiveness
love
humility
respect
silence
openess
bravery
recognition
inquisitiveness
delight...etc.
(no little leprauchans, etc. etc.)

And there is more. God is the shape that welcomes no easy discharges and brief disclosures.

Well, now, I beg to differ with that, as a scientist. Life is what happens to you as a result of making every effort to know what surrounds you. Yeah, if ya too busy caring more about who's on first in "dancing wit tha stars" and such, then, sh*t, I do hope that life bites ya in the *ss. Same thang as if ya too busy proselytizing bout how "holy" ya are, and not truly appreciating the splendor of natural life, worryin' more about "looking good," then, sure, life will bite ya in the *ss like a scorpion.

Deal with it.

Some phenomena cant be explained by science.

But believing something has occurred doesn't mean it actually happened, no matter how many people believe it occurred.

As nan example, Jewish scholars & historians have never found any historical evidnce that moses existed, the only records of Moses are what's in the Torah & Bible.

Are there any historical records that Jesus actually existed? Post links to such
evidence.

Only if I was there to witness them. Otherwise, I'd have to rely on other people's accounts of them. And if the only account available of these things is what's in the Bible itself, that's hardly solid evidence, when you consider the time of the alleged occurences and the time they were finally recorded... and then edited, sorted and collected into what eventually became the Bible as we know it.

Lemme do a quick check... got up today, made coffee and toast... had coffee and toast... came onto the internet... nope, my not believing in god's existence didn't pop up at all until I came back to this thread to se what's been posted since my last visit.

This wouldn't change the fact that polar bears exist, & that polar bears can swim; it would only help me decide whether I believed YOU saw one swimming or not.

Do you believe you exist? Or do you believe you’ll be remembered that you existed? Are you real? Or man made? Who actually created you?

I guess hundreds of years from now, people will be asking if President Obama really existed. Of course we know this today, but many hundreds of years later…. It will be watered down. People will say he never existed.

You didn’t understand the statement.

Being a non-believer runs through everything in ones life.

Lemme do a quick check... got up today, made coffee and toast... had coffee and toast... came onto the internet... nope, my not believing in god's existence didn't pop up at all until I came back to this thread to se what's been posted since my last visit.

First Einstein was never very clear on whether or not he believed in God.

In my opinion of his statements made~ they are on the fence.

It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.
- Albert Einstein, letter to an atheist (1954), quoted in Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas & Banesh Hoffman

I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being.
- Albert Einstein to Guy H. Raner Jr., Sept. 28, 1949, quoted by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic magazine, Vol. 5, No. 2

It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I also cannot imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere.... Science has been charged with undermining morality, but the charge is unjust. A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.
- Albert Einstein, "Religion and Science," New York Times Magazine, November 9, 1930

I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism.
Albert Einstein

nuclear weapons, the most un god like thing in the universe

Of course Einstien belived in no god, he had alot to do with nuclear weapons, the most un god like thing in the universe