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 andthebeatgoeson

Joined: 4/7/2008
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Posted: 5/25/2008 10:18:31 AM
I don't think your question was unreasonable, when reviewing profiles I see that some men are on favorite lists of 20-40 different women. That sends up a red flag for me. Either they are the greatest of performer's, or looking for something so rare I doub't I have it.
 andthebeatgoeson

Joined: 4/7/2008
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Posted: 5/25/2008 10:24:25 AM
your right. Women are hardwired for the need of approval. They have been raise in societies for thousands of years. I don't mean to get biblical but read Genisis 3:16 God's damnation of woman was that she would desire her husband. Many men have figured that out and unfortunately use it to their advantage.
 godliketoaster

Joined: 2/18/2008
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Posted: 5/25/2008 11:38:54 AM
I think OP lives in her own universe...last time I checked, most guys only ever go out with one person....
 mthomjmark

Joined: 2/27/2008
Msg: 129
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Posted: 5/25/2008 6:50:12 PM
You've been reading too many cosmopolitan magazines. I've never heard of such a thing.

If a guy is that sleazy to have that, it still wouldn't deter most women. Look at the posts? Some women would stay with Jack the Ripper if they loved them; woman are just not bright sometimes in choosing a guy.

So in ending, I dont have a list; I've got too many important things than to act like a Dog in heat with a list.
 First Falcon

Joined: 9/13/2007
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Posted: 5/25/2008 7:40:36 PM
Makes one wonder that any new questions get posted, when anyone who does gets misread and blasted. She asked for opinions concerning an article in a book, with which she disagreed. And this sweet Lady gets nothing but garbage. I doubt she'll come back to see it, but Dreamer please accept my apologies for those who can't comprehend what they read, or engage in civilized discussion without assuming the worst about everyone.
 bucsgirl

Joined: 5/13/2006
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Posted: 5/25/2008 7:49:39 PM

She asked for opinions concerning an article in a book, with which she disagreed. And this sweet Lady gets nothing but garbage.


That would be correct, not a thread asking for advice about a personal situation, but about a "school of thought" and posted for discussion.

I've had a few convos with the OP and she is a charming, intelligent woman, one that makes women proud of their gender.
 YourDarkAngel

Joined: 6/14/2005
Msg: 132
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Posted: 5/25/2008 8:58:22 PM

Fact is: 10-20% of the guys are banging 80% of the women.



D@mn it! I missed that study. Got a link to it?


There were actually a couple of controversial sites about the percentage quoted above. I don't know if it's right, but it would explain several things about women, feminism, and how dating and mate selection is so skewered. Including the fact there are an awful amount of single men with little dating opportunities and sitting on the sidelines, while in seems there are many women who have no shortage of men they are seeing, and those men are perhaps holding a mini-harem of sorts---while many men can barely find one woman at a time they feel suitable for a LTR.

Trouble is that many women, despite their complains of players and womanizers typically still reward them with attention in same way or another. If you're a visible alpha male at the top of the heap or even of some minor "celebrity" status of some sort (or a scum bag with criminal record that excites women despite the lie that women aren't attracted to these anti-social men---some of them are), you will have little problems meeting a number of willing women wanting to spend time with you, have sex with you, consider marriage and children with you, etc. While your "average" guy has to prove himself to most women as good enough, or avoid the rest of the women that are carrying a massive chip or their shoulders and enough baggage to crush an elephant.
 UnstoppableLoveMachine

Joined: 5/16/2008
Msg: 133
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Posted: 5/25/2008 8:58:27 PM

Guys…

There’s a school of thought that many single guys actually use a romantic rotation of the girls they date. How many of you have a starting lineup of girls you date thinking or knowing you’ll have mind-blowing sex with and then a second string of girls who like you just a little more than you like them that you keep in a holding pattern waiting on the sidelines.



You want the truth to this?

One percent of guys can have their pick and pull off what you are suggesting. Ninety nine percent of guys have to struggle for it. That's why they don't know what you are talking about.

If the ninety nine percent ever really truly knew deep down how the one percent got treated by women, no woman on Earth would ever get a date again. If you could see the contrast, you would be able to truly recognize the brutality that comes with the dating and mating ritual.

Most women would rather be tenth in line to the guy all other women want than be first in line to a guy no one wants.
 YourDarkAngel

Joined: 6/14/2005
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Posted: 5/25/2008 9:02:35 PM


Most women would rather be tenth in line to the guy all other women want than be first in line to a guy no one wants.


QFT
 Kazot

Joined: 8/11/2007
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Posted: 5/25/2008 9:34:10 PM
YDA I am having troubles believing it.

I am no beauty but I found dating relatively easy.
Most guys are pathetic at picking up women or keeping their attention.

The few that do have natural ability or learn how to be attractive are labled as players, lucky, have big d!cks or fat wallets.

I think most often it is none of those things. I think it is confidence and atitude.
 WackMC

Joined: 4/23/2008
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Posted: 5/25/2008 10:22:16 PM
Fact is: 10-20% of the guys are banging 80% of the women. The hot guys, thugs, players and rich guys get the hot women and the left overs go to suckers and "nice guys".


...so you mean 80% of women are "hot"? (the ones being serviced by the rich guys)

I think if you stated it differently it would make more sense:
10-20% of men (the players) score with 80% of the women they pursue.
80% of men (common doofuses) score with those women who reject the players or score with women who have been previously handled by players and abandoned.

Some women are never approached. Some men never score.

A small percentage of men score on very large numbers of women, but most men only score infrequently and tend to settle down quickly.

Most women have encountered a player at some point and been seduced, however some women have never been seduced by a player. Most women have rejected a very large number of very common men. A small percentage of women have only dealt with a few men and settled down quickly.

so...what have we learned?
• Players usually score.
• Women usually say yes to players.
• Common guys usually don't score, but tend to stay with women they score with.
• Women usually reject common guys, but tend to stay with common guys they didn't reject.

what else?
Players have their lists of women and play them at their whim.
Common guys search for a woman who will say yes -- no concept of a harem.
Most women have dated a player at some point and discovered this player had other women on the line. Afterwards they assume all men are like this. Strangely, they attribute the minority characteristic to the majority populace. Why? Because they say NO to most common men, so they don't really see that he spends most of his time alone.

Completely different perspectives. The player wins. Everyone else gets a bum deal.
 YourDarkAngel

Joined: 6/14/2005
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Posted: 5/25/2008 10:58:35 PM
I think most often it is none of those things. I think it is confidence and atitude.


The latter doesn't help much because not only is it too vague, but not an examination of the mechanisms underlying dating and mate selection. I know plenty men that are confident and aren't shy around women, and don't need a PUA seminar to boost their "skillz" or anything---but aren't finding the women they desire. We're talking quality women, not just any woman. You're skimming the surface, I think. I know if I wanted to get laid, for example, it doesn't take too much trouble if I'm not picky. Finding someone for a serious LTR is far different and not as easy.

If I find a link I'll post it here---it's pretty eye-opening.
 pearlj

Joined: 3/1/2007
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Posted: 5/26/2008 12:37:16 AM
oooook, so heres the deal. (In my oh so humble oppinion lol) I had a BF and I thought he was faithfull, but my gut just kept twitching, after I broke up with him becuase of my yet unsubstantiated "twitchings" he called me up to admitt, that he had, in fact been cheating. He did this in an effort to "win back my trust by finally being honest" I wouldnt take him back. obviously lol. But as time went on he kept calling and admitting to further infidelities, I stopped answering his calls, checked my sources, and found out that he did in fact have "a lineup" of girls, some on the back burner, but all convinced that they made up the entirety of the "top tier" lol, it was pathetic. As for who these girls were, considering me ex's average looks, less than average intelligence, but incredible ability to lie, they were all "bottom feeders" (well, at least the one's that I know about) his standards were soooo low, which for me was good and bad. Good in that it meant that the issue was with him, and he would boink anything breathing, bad in that it meant I would have to gain about 100lbs in order to compete lol. I for obvious reasons stepped out of the game lol.
My point is that there are some scum that do do this, and it would be "fine" if all their partners were aware of each other (I mean hey, if you want an STD more power to ya, and condoms DONT protect against all STD'S all the time , like herpes...ish so it IS wise to ask, condoms are not fool proof) But what I have a problem with are the guys (and girls, Ive known a few) that DONT tell their partners and lie, making any partners they have feel crazy, and possiblely contract an STD. Thank God I was spared that, but it was completely mind blowing to have someone sob about how much they just. want. you., and yet be saying THE EXACT SAME THING TO ANOTHER PERSON on the other line, and its crazy disconcerting how God-damned believable they can be.
My point is that yes, there are ppl out there that do do those kinds of things, and get off on it.But putting another human being through the kind of pain and suffering that that kind of behavior can incur is NOT something that I would care to emulate. That kind of behavior is text book sociopathic. Take no offense OP, you posted on this touchy topic with such non-chalance that it was easy for ppl to assume you approve and project all of the hurt that they might have had over experiencing this onto you.
I have learned like I have said before, that in a relationship it is ALL about the actions, NOT the words. The actions must backup the words, if there is any indiscrepancy, than hear what the other person is saying by there actions, irregardless of the poetry or eloquence of what they might say.Oh and btw, who would really admitt to this online? I mean they are trying to "catch" a "fish" and I think we all know how unconducive (is that how its spelled? lol) admittance of being a "playa" would be to their end goals.
 ExplosiveSheep

Joined: 9/22/2007
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Posted: 5/26/2008 3:10:23 AM
I have been there, so don't be mad when I say this, but are you sure you're mad that he cheated on you with all these substandard women or are you mad that you didn't know about that he was that kind of guy before he managed to do it?

I mean I dated a girl that ended it for us on.. unpleasant terms and I know I can say for a fact the thing that made me the maddest was that I hadn't realised earlier it was gonna end like it did. Some people broadcast all the signals and we completely ignore them, sometimes even are attracted to them.

I've seen more girls try to date the guy that groped them and 3 other girls that night on the dance floor than the guy that sat through at least 2-3 complaint sessions about the previous boyfriend who did nothing but cheat on her. Neither guy has to be particularly good or bad looking, but the novelty of dating someone that they shouldn't be seems to never wear old with women until they want to settle down.

No man will ever be proud to be second to anyone, I will never appreciate dating some douche bags left overs and conquests, most men won't, some men will just swallow it with their pride a lot easier. What makes relationships work is how your partner makes *you* feel. That's what it boils down to, if your partner is making you feel like you weren't interesting enough but now you're settling down and just need something more dependable, you will find even nice men to be problematic to be with. Realistically the same goes for men, don't expect that girl that just lost a lot of weight to really care what "you realised" about the 2 of you, that ship has sailed.
 takennow

Joined: 10/17/2007
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Posted: 5/28/2008 12:17:34 PM
I always date several girls until i find one i realy want to end up with for a while. I had a girlfriend that I was sleeping with and I didn't tell her I was meeting with others. I didn't feel it was her's or the others business. She wanted to be with me and I didn't want to be with her anymore. I was ending that relationship and starting another one with this one girl. SO why not stay with that one until this other one is in place. That's what online dating is all about being able to meet with many at one time. I've done this for years and it's worked for me. Lot's of people date like this.
 Nightwing66

Joined: 8/1/2006
Msg: 141
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Posted: 5/28/2008 12:29:49 PM
OP ~

The South Florida dating scene is hard enough w/out resorting to divisive self-hinder books. Good Lord, girl...you'll rot yer brain w/ that rubbish!
 Laura Beth

Joined: 4/27/2008
Msg: 142
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Posted: 5/28/2008 12:56:16 PM
Hey Everyone.

I havent read the entire thread. I got a bit overwhelmed.

Guys, I hope you know not all women think this way but sometimes do find a bad apple or two which makes us think you are all the same. I know you're not. And believe me, I appreciate it.

Girls, women are just as bad. Can you honestly tell me you don't have any friends or even know any women who don't just sleep around??? Women are just as untrustworthy and inappropriate as any man you could find.

But good luck fishing... :)
 mthomjmark

Joined: 2/27/2008
Msg: 143
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Posted: 5/28/2008 4:01:05 PM
First Falcon I'll answer the question; my opinion is its ridiculous crap; is that direct enough? The internet and so many dumb magazines have so many dumb articles from weird researchers that its ridiculous.
 raphael_adroit_esquire

Joined: 12/18/2006
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Posted: 5/28/2008 4:31:19 PM
Starting lineup.......

I'll have Cindy out playing shortstop today. Candy will be at first. I want Tonya in right field. And I'll leave Hortence on the bench for pinch hitting purposes later on in the game...... just because she has a crappy name.
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