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| Regarding Hatred.
Posted: 5/11/2007 9:44:39 AM | Beautifully put Diva.
Hate builds hate and Love builds Love.
DD | |
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| Regarding Hatred.
Posted: 5/11/2007 1:29:28 PM | | Hate: what are the benefits? What does one gain from hating anyone else? | |
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| Regarding Hatred.
Posted: 5/11/2007 1:43:41 PM |
Hate: what are the benefits? What does one gain from hating anyone else?
A release from one's emotions.
Rather than be trapped by the hatred I feel for someone, I release it and not allow it to consume me. | |
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| Regarding Hatred.
Posted: 5/11/2007 3:30:54 PM |
A release from one's emotions.
Rather than be trapped by the hatred I feel for someone, I release it and not allow it to consume me.
Hmm, I guess if that works for you...
For me, the more I dwell on something the more it stirs me up. If I can just get one good rant in and forget about it, it goes away pretty quick. I don't really feel the need to indulge in hatred or vengeance. I just go about my business and let it slide. Eventually I forget about it. Generally in a matter of hours. | |
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| Regarding Hatred.
Posted: 5/11/2007 3:46:28 PM | I have a question for everyone that opposes hate. Why do you assume that if you hate someone...that you have to dwell on your hate? Just because you can say to yourself "I hate XXX for doing XXX to me", doesn't mean you live in hate, it doesn't mean that hate rules your life, your self, or your soul..it's just acknowleging it and accepting that emotion for what it is. Afterall let's look at it on the flip...many people love another but don't physically show it or act on it. It's just an emotion.
As I said earlier, there is only one person that I can say I truly hate. But guess what? That person isn't in my life. I don't think of them, I don't associate with them, I don't attempt to ruin their life as they did mine...but I do recognize that I hate them. And I'm one of the most upbeat and happy people you'll ever meet. Don't get me wrong, I've seen people that are consumed in hate and anger...and it's a scarey thing. But to know what the emotion is, to acknowledge and to file that hate, to me is more healthy than to fluff everything off.
A release from one's emotions.
That's exactly it. | |
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| Regarding Hatred.
Posted: 5/11/2007 5:42:00 PM | | Hatred is one of the most powerful emotions in the human condition. Hatred can make a person do the impossible, it clarifies the mind and gives energy to the body.... but at a price. To Hate is to be powerful, but without direction, that power consumes its host. Hate is not necessarily bad, but one must find proper outlets for it. I myself play Magic: the Gathering when I feel the surge of Hate. | |
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| Regarding Hatred.
Posted: 5/12/2007 7:51:22 AM | In my time I have been accused of hating Jehovah,
thus it is unacceptable and I am a heretic and an apostate,
but how can you hate someone you do not know?
True, you can hate what it represents
and what it leaves the rest of us to agonize over,
but I do not know this god or recognize what it stands for.
Thus, it is the IDEA I detest.
What if this god as been totally misinterpreted, as I suspect?
The accusers have then misplaced their accusations on me
and unwittingly created the hatred, they themselves espouse. | |
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| Regarding Hatred.
Posted: 5/12/2007 11:56:12 PM | I like a lot of folks' posts, particularly about "getting it out there" kinda stuff, or "using it" when that becomes necessary. I'll give you mine, just in case.
The Feral take:
In my understanding, the plethora of human emotions stem from one source: Hunger.
Hunger fed is contentment, happiness, preference that develops into love.
Hunger denied is pain, fear, that which can develop into hate.
Hate is a product of fear. Control the fear, face the fear, know strength. Strength given focus is power. Hate can give one power, but, as has been mentioned, comes at a price.
Practically speaking, I view hatred as "cognitively institutionalised" anger, again, a product of fear (in a roundabout way). I see no issues with getting angry, that's a natural response. I have no problem with "holding a grudge", if all it means is recognising what it is about a person/thing that angers one and maintaining one's distance from that. Hate, though... Hate is extreme, and I tend to try to avoid extremes, at the least, in a protracted sense. Sure, I'll go in for an exquisitely painful round of beauty and joy; likewise I'll indulge a white-hot cardiac corona of rage, when appropriate. Maintenance, though? Methinks it doth warp perception.
OP, out of curiosity, your outlook (and that quote) seem very in tune with Satanic (the real kind) viewpoints. Have you looked into them? | |
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| Regarding Hatred.
Posted: 5/13/2007 10:28:11 AM |
OP, out of curiosity, your outlook (and that quote) seem very in tune with Satanic (the real kind) viewpoints. Have you looked into them?
Yup, and I have my little red card in my wallet too.
As for the quote it was from Anton LaVey as well. | |
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| Regarding Hatred.
Posted: 5/27/2007 7:26:23 PM | sweettreat, i would assume that if you (still) hate someone then your are dwelling on the emotion. otherwise you would say you hated (past tense). it's a matter of definition, i suppose. saying "i hate you" in a laughing or pouting matter is not what i assume we are talking about. but some people use it that way as well.  | |
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| Regarding Hatred.
Posted: 5/27/2007 11:19:54 PM | | I agree that hate or anger can make you powerful, and it can also hurt you. There are ways to focus it so it doesn't. It can be a great motivator and promt you into action. You have to look at hate the same way you look at fire. Depending on how you focus it within, it will help or burn you. | |
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| Regarding Hatred.
Posted: 5/28/2007 5:58:16 AM | I believe that feeling hate only affects yourself, your mood, and your feelings. If someone disregards your feelings enough to make you hate them, they don't care about your anger or hate back towards them. They don't care about you.
I would prefer to not waste my time and my thoughts on someone who would be vile enough to make me hate them. I have felt hate before and it consumed my thoughts, angered me, made me lose sleep, put me in a bad mood, distracted me from the good things in my life and I felt I was spending too much time and energy on that person and what they did to me. They didn't deserve my time.
It was only destructive to me. I prefer to let it go, and let the rotten people live in the lives they create. Great things, great loves, great friendships don't come to those people. They always have conflict in their lives. And thats not how I want to live my life. | |
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| Regarding Hatred.
Posted: 5/28/2007 6:21:05 AM | A quote from "Zen Moon"...
I teach my 3 sons not to use the word “hate.” The word itself is just that, a word. However, the meaning and power it carries by simply using it can be devastating. When one says, “I hate…this or that,” hate is not placed in that in which you hate, but rather in the haters heart, your heart. It is more damaging to the one that hates then to that in which is being hated. When you have hate in your heart, it can spread like a virus, and it becomes easier to hate, thus polluting your heart in this endless hatred, finally turning your heart black. Just by using the word “hate,” whether you mean it or not, it can spread, battle, and conflict with the love that is also in your heart. There is no good that comes directly from hate. By hating something, you allow that thing to further bother you even more then it already has. If you really “dislike” this thing so much, then let it go, if you don’t then you are allowing it to control you, thus increasing your hatred towards it. By just simply using the word this chain reaction can happen. The word “hate” should not be used lightly, preferably not at all.
The fact that I stated “hate” is a “bad” word implies a discrimination, an expectation, a prejudice is in effect. If I was in this state of neutrality myself, “hate” would neither be bad nor good. The two would be one. However, I used this headline to make a point. To bring forth awareness, like a slap to your head that wakes you up, just when you thought you were already awake. | |
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| Regarding Hatred.
Posted: 5/28/2007 8:19:00 AM |
I see alot of people round here denying themselves when it comes to their emotions, but mostly its hatred that gets a bad rap.
I would like to ask you what is the problem with denying your emotions? I keep mine prety tightly bound at all times and I like it that way.
But on to the subject mater at hand. I do not belive thatgiving in to hate is a bad thing at all, only giving yourself over to it entirely. I think balance is the key here.
Think about it, those hippy/religious types who are nothing but peace and love, don't they just p!$$ you off and make you want to punch them in the face? Similarly soeone who is constantly depresed or constantly angry or constantly horny or whatever other emotions, just do not seem right to most people. We avoide people like that because they are unbalanced. Hate is a good thing, it makes us human. But giving yourself over to hatred is not a good thing, just as giving yourself over to lust or pride or love or sorrow or any other emotions, make it imposable to function in society. | |
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| Regarding Hatred.
Posted: 5/28/2007 9:26:06 AM | | On a personal level, it's true, hate is a powerful and negative emotion. But it is an emotion nontheless. It is as much a part of the human psyche as the emotions of love, sadness, and grief. When one is in love, they are usually encouraged to express it, the same with grief, and sadness too. One is told to "let it out". Why repress those other feelings? I have found in the past, the quickest way to alleviate oneself from a negative emotion like hate, is to express it. I also think that people tend to connect hatred with longevity, in that if they hate something, or someone, it is for a very long time. I have found that is not always the case. | |
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| Regarding Hatred.
Posted: 5/28/2007 9:47:31 AM |
sweettreat, i would assume that if you (still) hate someone then your are dwelling on the emotion
Actually, no. lol I haven't thought about the person in years. I don't see the person, I don't think of them, I don't speak of them, etc. But when this thread came up I sat and thought "ok..hate..do I really hate someone? Oh yes...gotcha, yes I do".
otherwise you would say you hated (past tense).
Nope, for me hatred isn't something that "eventually goes away". Hate is a strong word (that's what my mom has always told me haha) and if you truly hate something or someone, it doesn't just magically dissapear. I have my reasons for hatred toward this person, but now, they mean nothing to me. I don't give them thought, or waste of emotion...but I won't lie and say "No sorry I dont hate him" if asked.
I recognized the fact many years ago that I hated this person, and for years it DID affect me. I admit it, I was a HELLION. I hated life because of what this person did to me and because of the hell I found myself in. But I recognized it, worked through it, came out of it and moved on.
I still hate this person, but I recognize it for what it is, and don't dwell on it. For some people, they just need to surpress it, for me I needed to own it, face it, work through it and move on. But that also doesnt mean I use to hate them..I still do. I just don't dwell on it or give it a second thought now.
If it's a true emotion, it will never go away. Look at it this way: A man and woman are married for 15 years and divorce. They truly love eachother but unfortunately something happens and they part. If they truly loved eachother, that love will always be there. It won't be at the forefront of their now seperate lives, it won't be something they think of constantly or waste their emotions on, and it may not even be something they give a second thought to. But sit them down and simple say. "Do you still love him", their answer would be, "Yes I do". | |
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| Regarding Hatred.
Posted: 5/28/2007 12:44:34 PM |
If it's a true emotion, it will never go away. Look at it this way: A man and woman are married for 15 years and divorce. They truly love each other but unfortunately something happens and they part. If they truly loved each other, that love will always be there. It won't be at the forefront of their now seperate lives, it won't be something they think of constantly or waste their emotions on, and it may not even be something they give a second thought to. But sit them down and simple say. "Do you still love him", their answer would be, "Yes I do".
I can absolutely relate to this, and Sweet you are the very first person I've heard it from. Love doesn't die it just recedes. | |
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| Regarding Hatred.
Posted: 5/28/2007 8:14:37 PM | Hey Sky... Hope you don't mind, but I saw this quote in your principles thread and I just thought it fit quite well here too...
“The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it. Through violence you may murder the liar, but you cannot murder the lie, nor establish the truth. Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate. So it goes. Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.”
Dr. Samuel Johnson, Lives of the Most Eminent English Poets, "Cowley" (1781) | |
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| Regarding Hatred.
Posted: 5/29/2007 2:45:53 AM | | A very appropriate quote - it also supports the law of attraction. | |
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