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 This is Now

Joined: 12/4/2006
Msg: 26
Why does everything and anything come down to money?
Posted: 6/9/2007 7:38:48 PM
I think there is a shift in how money is being used. Despite people who prey on philanthopists and generally good-hearted people, there is a huge swing of the pendulum towards global solutions right now.

Whether it's Bill Gates or other lesser known donors combined with the efforts many stars of music, film etc. are making, I feel good about some of the changes that have been made recently.

In the late 1990's when I wrote a column about the International Year of the Volunteer, I noted the lack of inaction despite report after report in bringing aid to Africa that could be run by the people of Africa themselves.

To see the advances of late is a miracle I never thought I'd live to see.
 Robbbyg

Joined: 4/19/2007
Msg: 27
Why does everything and anything come down to money?
Posted: 6/11/2007 7:40:27 PM


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 MrBad_Kitty

Joined: 4/28/2007
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Why does everything and anything come down to money?
Posted: 6/12/2007 10:33:47 AM
money = resources

Resources are a quantative resource which means it can be measure. Besides resources exist in a finite quantity.

thus the world loves money or a symbolic representation of resources
 okcupid

Joined: 8/3/2006
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Why does everything and anything come down to money?
Posted: 6/12/2007 12:29:08 PM
Well I'm going to continue from wanderer1999's great post and say money isn't necessarily labour

Money/Labour/Resources = Power

People will strive for power no matter what form it takes. In our society power comes largely in the form of money. However if hypothetically we were to somehow invent a new and independent society, power would still be traded somehow. If it's not bank notes, then it’s labour (as mentioned), favours, resources, sexual favours, friendship, protection, respect, land, or material goods.

You can strip money from society, but you can't strip power or greed from society.
 chaswhatif

Joined: 4/30/2005
Msg: 30
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Why does everything and anything come down to money?
Posted: 6/12/2007 3:43:02 PM
"Some profit-some not"
Sorta:but the pie is not static. I can Make money and not deprive another.
I've never needed much loot. Bought my fav. horn for $75 and it 's sweet.
 Hook,Line and Sinker

Joined: 7/22/2005
Msg: 31
Why does everything and anything come down to money?
Posted: 6/13/2007 6:47:03 PM
In my opinion, nothing's 'too' wrong with money - it's only the greedy & insatiable appetite that some people have for it, that's so & way wrong! Though, the reason I said "nothing's too wrong with money" is due to the fact that money's value is controllable (and thus can be manipulated for power) so if it goes down in it's value and with its' buying power (say within your own country), you are basically doing the same job for less in return, right? Therefore, if our money becomes worthless or worth less & less, especially when compared to The World's Economy, does that mean the countries that 'have now' will become more like the parts of The World that have a lesser standard of living? To me, this is already working it's magic in Canada & The U.S.A.! Yeah, lets bring on a One World Government!

Can most couples afford to have say have a house & a car with one of them at home raising kids? For the people that do have a home, how many of them also have a mortgage where the interest paid is the majority of their remaining (already pre-taxed dollars) that barely touches the principal debt, thereby ensuring many, years upon years of 'indebtedness' ? How many banks make a $billion dollars or so a year in profits?

Even if you do (supposedly) own your house 'free & clear', what happens if you do not pay your yearly land taxes - they wouldn't throw you out of your home and sell it out from underneath you would they?

Let's see, after all taxes are paid (not even including any mortgage or credit card interest, but including any taxes on items you purchase), we here in Canada end-up giving almost HALF of our EARNED money to the Government! Yet, "slavery's supposedly dead"?

Don't get me wrong, the barter system was not perfect either, but only because some people's greed replaced the care they had for helping out their neighbour! Like when one family had problems with their health,crops, chickens, cattle, etc., some people would take advantage and give them less trade value because they knew they were in a desperate situation! Thank goodness it's 'controlled' now!

Hmmn, the shareholders don't care that a town full of good & decent people, (whom served the company faithfully for years of their lives), along with their children & families, will be out of luck! Rather, they say, "let's close the factory down because we found people that will work for less somewhere else!" and because all that matters is the good ol' bottom line and that the shareholders make more money! "Show me the money!" and "money always comes before people, so get in line, Sucka!"

In other words, unfortunately, some people place a higher value upon money instead of their fellow Humans! Very sad, but also very true, unfortunately for some!

This may sound like the ravings of a lunatic, but did you actually think about it with an open mind?... or at least, doesn't that full (non- Monty)Moon look powerful?

 algha

Joined: 2/8/2007
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Posted: 6/16/2007 9:08:57 AM
Well wake up, you live in a a world of greed, which means we all are trained to want more of everything, America consumes more than any other nation on earth per head of population but it ain' happy. We are individuals, alone fighting in a hostile world, there are winners and loosers, and in a race there is only one winner, and the rest are loosers even the one that came second. Divide and rule. Division feeds insecurity but the saviour to most (apart from those with only hope is religion) is MONEY, freedon is MONEY, lots of MONEY a phillosophy which we were all spoon fed with from birth, and brainwashes us through the media till we know it in our hearts. One thing about being rich, it is mostly never enough, more will make us feel safer, so being paid millions a year will one day make us feel safe, but what about inflation, makes the rich insecure, so more and more is needed, as long as I am safe sod the rest of you. If money ain't enough get some guns, and plenty of ammo you can't trust anyone, when you got a bunker mind and a pile to secure. Everyone will try to steal what you got, you are on your own, this is what drives the economy of America and its everywhere, there is no escape....or is there. Why not consult GOD through his high priests, grease their palms with silver and you will have a safe seat there too, or are they just different con men???
 ibesurfing

Joined: 7/6/2007
Msg: 33
Why does everything and anything come down to money?
Posted: 7/15/2007 4:06:34 AM
money may be used for good
money may be used for evil
money can simply just be idle

true wealth is in the heart not the pocket
 scorpiomover

Joined: 4/19/2007
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Why does everything and anything come down to money?
Posted: 7/17/2007 7:53:03 AM
Most of these subjects have been already solved.

Take The Art of War, by Sun-Tzu. It is over 500 years old. Yet he writes that a great general and ruler rules his people by respect as much as by fear.

As early as the American Civil War, American doctors had discovered that by applying certain maggots to gangrenous flesh, the maggots would eat only the dead and dying flesh and leave the healthy flesh alone. The maggots completely removed the need for amputation and reduced the recovery time from months to little more than a few days.

The Electric Motor has been around since the 1950s, when Electric Milk Floats could do a full milk round and get to 50mph.

By the way, the housing and employment markets became quite stable when price management was introduced and kept all prices, including housing within a reasonable range. Everyone could afford at least ONE house, and so rich people owned a mansion, or a palace, but poor people still had a bungalow.

Irrigation systems have been around since before the Egyptians, and used them to supply the whole of Egypt, a barren land, with food and water, when only the area surrounding the Nile is green and fertile, and then only during the rainy season.

But such solutions mean that everyone has everything they need, and that means that rich men are no better off than poor men.

So rich men try and control politics and research to ensure they stay powerful, and the only way to do that is to hinder research, just like the Church tried to silence Galileo and Copernicus to control the general populace.

The only 2 ways I can see forwards are:
1) Allow politicians to be corrupt, but tie their finances to the benefits of society, and if they implement a policy that is both detrimental to society and negligent in consideration, then give all their money to the state and bankrupt them.
2) Ban anyone in political office from earning anything more than minimum wage, as a total of their means of support, both while in office and for the rest of their lives, but guarantee them free access to all sources of research and advice. That way, the only people who will EVER want to be politicians will be people who want to do it for altruistic purposes. There will be very people who want to be few politicians, but there are very few politicians needed anyway, so it stands to our benefit. Plus, it will be much easier to pick them. Just use them all.
 okcupid

Joined: 8/3/2006
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Why does everything and anything come down to money?
Posted: 7/18/2007 6:19:02 AM

Msg: 8 (xssve)

Technically, one only requires sufficient resources to raise successful offspring, the rest is gravy, something to impress the neighbors with


Logically, that's true, but we humans aren't all logic. Thanks to our mammalian and primate heritage, mate competition is a huge factor. Money represents status and resources, which females are compelled to acquire through pairing off with the right males. Males don’t just want to mate with any old female either; pairing with a female who is merely attractive enough to raise healthy offspring would be classed as ‘settling’. How does one acquire a ‘better’ female? Acquire status and resources.

Does a peacock really need fancy feathers to successfully raise healthy offspring?
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