| Do guys like sweet & innocent or naughty girls?
Posted: 9/3/2009 2:26:34 PM | Pretty much have to parrot the rest of the guys here.
Nobody...ok very few (male or female) wants a "whore" or someone who can't function in public without hitting or flirting with everyone and everything. It's embarassing and unseemly to most people, and usually not the sign of a healthy relationship.
Most men, however, do want the "naughty schoolgirl" in the confines of the bedroom and/or in intimate situations.
How to combine the both?
Try things like "naughty" little whipsers while at a formal dinner or party, for example, or not-so-subtle touches under the table while eating dinner at a public place. done right, you can still be professional/normal at say an office party, etc...while still letting your man know that you have that bad side to you.
I personally love this sort of stuff...It lets me know she's in to me and is sexually exciting, yet she is not out there hanging on to every other guy out there and can maintain some sense of decorum in public. | |
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| Do guys like sweet & innocent or naughty girls?
Posted: 9/3/2009 3:16:27 PM | lets the man know you have that bad side to you
aww jez..I thought you had it srgandy74 but...then...........
so 'sexually exciting" is "BAD"?
Some very good points were made by srgandy that whore..slut etc can MEAN to the man someone who hangs off everyone..flirting and directing her sexual energy to all..not just to him..
That was refeshing from the standard caveman.
"I want a whore in the bedroom..but then she is a freak and so unusual I can't take her to meet mom or give her a ring..
and so I look for a good girl( one who has bought into the "woman dont like it belief"but then I complain I am not getting enough.. and go find a slut for me on the side"
As a viewPOINT..men then( in this belief system) become(symbollically and literally) sexually voracious and predatory and women are supposed to control and civilize them by being pure,asexaul and witholding.Thus an open sexual woman is sinful..bad..evil..a tamp..whore..slut..
whom with the man can "Act' out his animalness...but he should be very wary of such a woman for his mate.
The woman is confused because she is told that if she "liked it" she is BAD...and the man is confused because women who are sexually active and love pleasure are bad..whores..sluts..nasty...dirty and NOT mate material.
He may be further confused because he loves both parts of woman and finds both hot but does not see it as possible for a woman to be both(******some men)
This cultural belief system is so DEEPLY rooted in literature..law..archetype and patterns..that SHAKING them from your personal ETHOS can be very difficult.
The first step to exploring them is recognizing them and I Appauld men and women who do..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Historically requirements for sexual expectations are linked with sex-negative attitudes and attempts to control SEXUALITY IN THE INTERESTS OF SOCIETY.
Control IS THE KEY WORD HERE..
IN PARTICULAR THE CONTROL OF REPRODUCTION IN THE INTEREST OF PRIMOGENITURE OR OTHER DYNASTIC GOALS..
so theses are relatively NEW ingrained belief systems that we see popping up here on this thread ..however basic in their rudimentry explainations.
and HAVE nothing to do with PLEASURE AND LOVE and everything to do with enforced beliefs about WO/MEN..in order to maintain such thing as family lines etc.
Most of the men on this thread have shown themselves to be narrow puritans with very limited knowledge of the sexual nature of human beings..and seem NOT YET READY to deal with the frightening prospect of a truly free sexual open woman..
Their base level instinct and unwilling ness to break old patterns seeks to CONTROL by calling her nasty ..dirty...whore..slut...
afterall...how could SOCIETY then KEEP some baby dollies ..sweet ...innocent
for the big ole boy to teach...corrupt...mould to his specifications?
as well I would like to add.. I have met and talked to many men who also feel THEY are being dirty..slutty and nasty when engaged in pleasure and explorations and thus
choose 1 woman for a mate and one for their dirty deeds...
HOW UNFORTUNATE....
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| Do guys like sweet & innocent or naughty girls?
Posted: 9/3/2009 3:24:30 PM | {"Most of the men on this thread have shown themselves to be narrow puritans with very limited knowledge of the sexual nature of human beings..and seem NOT YET READY to deal with the frightening prospect of truly free sexual openess and romantic choice for ALL..."}
What she said!
Ya I know, I'm not very original today but oh well. I'm just to  | |
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| Do guys like sweet & innocent or naughty girls?
Posted: 9/3/2009 3:50:08 PM | china shop boy said,
WTF does that have to do with my post? If you need to kiss ass and pretend to be all sensitive and down with your feminine side to get attention, that's fine. I'm not trying to block you. Just leave me out of it.
chinashop boy asked,
Should it be? I don't know. How many men could handle it anyway? I think the words "freak in the sheets" have different meaning depending on who you ask.
Hopefully imo you and your middle age frat boys will get it, at least I liked the thingy about having the lights on,that was funny! lol
And am I sucking up to the ladies to get laid, well if I went your route I sure won't! lol | |
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| Do guys like sweet & innocent or naughty girls?
Posted: 9/3/2009 4:15:56 PM | if its a normal condition to be a freak in the sheets then why are so many men looking for one...sexual open mindedness is not the normal state of women"
MY point was that in loving sex and pleasure it IS a NORMAL human reaction and HAD been for centuries to LOVE IT..
MY point was that is NOT how it is NOW...but to EMBRACE IT AGAIN...
as normal and free oneself from dibiliating notions so tacidly woven into our psyches we barely know they are there..
Men look for it ..yearn for it...becuz at a base archetypal level it has been LOST to both of us...due to religion...society..law..myth..politics and more..
We are all seeking a place where we can be a free sexual being...where we do nto have to worhsip self denial...whre we can satisfy desires adn not be vilified as immature..disgusting and sinful.
WE live in sex-negativism..injured by fear..shame and hatred of our sexual selves and that of others
Both men and women are wounded here.
A statement such as
how many men could handle it anyway?"
PONDERS this.........
confused...and seeking...journey.
ONE step might to be let go of slut..whore..freak...tramp labels and INSERT
sexually confident or high sexual esteem for those who have embraced the
idea that sex is nice and pleasure is good...
for men AND women...
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Posted: 9/3/2009 5:17:48 PM | Hopefully imo you and your middle age frat boys will get it, at least I liked the thingy about having the lights on,that was funny! lol
And am I sucking up to the ladies to get laid, well if I went your route I sure won't! lol
Nothing I said puts me in the middle-aged frat boy category. I'm just not here to impress anyone.
PS... I think more intelligent ass kissing would work better for you. The women reading your posts aren't stupid. You're a little too transparent. If you're gonna bust on us guys, like you're qualified to perform a vagina monologue, you might want to make a little sense. 
TantraD,
I don't necessarily disagree with you on what you're saying, I just think you picked the wrong place to say it. I think you've overreacted to the language in this thread and the topic at hand. Your opinion has merit. I just question it's relevance to the topic at hand. | |
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| Do guys like sweet & innocent or naughty girls?
Posted: 9/3/2009 5:32:47 PM | TantraD, allow me to clarify...
I'm all in favor of being naughty, wild, unabashed, etc... but I was also trying to provide advice or perspective on how to do so while not making your lover/partner jealous and not (generally) make a fool of oneself. By using the term "bad" I don't mena evil, awful etc...I mean it in the sense like "naughty" or "risque"....those are certainly not bad. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I do think there is a time and place for people to be wild.
I'll try it from the other side.
Let's say we are at her company holiday party. Of course, I'm there with her, and probably expected to mingle, shake hands, and make all the usual pleasantries; especially with her co-workers/peers. Normal sort of deal, no problem. Now I would be a whore if I was off commenting on her boss's boobs, and writing down the number of her secretary, while talking about how awesome my last 3-some was... Not only that, it's just plain rude, and demeaning to both me and her. Yeah, I think something like that would make me a bad person; and conversely, I'd think she (or most anyone) would be a bad person for that. However, a private whisper, or a stolen 2 minutes outside, or a suggestive grab under the dinner table between two people is awesome.
Now in the privacy of our own home, whatever floats your boat...if it makes both parties happy, go for it.
But both guys and ladies, you'd be amazed what a little naughty whisper can do at times (especially when you just can't get up and go right then and there.) I've had several comments over the years like "oh god, I could not to wait to get home and tear your clothes off after you whispered xyz to me at the party...) Same way for me as well. The anticipation makes it sooo much more fun sometimes.
My apologies if I've derailed this thread...
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Posted: 9/3/2009 5:41:00 PM | | I like the sweet innocent ones who know how to treat a guy well, the good girls basically, but it really doesn't make much difference when it comes to the bedroom. I never seem to attract the good ones, only bad girls and sluts, who so far have always been a disappointment in all areas, even in bed. | |
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| Do guys like sweet & innocent or naughty girls?
Posted: 9/3/2009 6:01:31 PM | | Well, if a woman comes off as a total tramp, I find it a big turnoff. What I consider to be a total tramp is: One who wears little to no underwear. Wears very revealing clothes. I'm sure it gives many the impression like a hooker, you've been around. Very little too nothing may be new to you. I prefer sweet innocent ladys with a hint of naughtiness. | |
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Posted: 9/3/2009 6:02:49 PM | Hey! The OP is an either/or, pick one question. What's up with all these posters saying "both", I want everything, and with impunity?!! Damn. One of rare instances I actually follow the friggin instructions, and nobody else does. It's fairly easy to train a Liza Doolittle to stick to the weather, and health, but trying to open up a prig/prude is like driving nails into a sidewalk. If we really must choose one of two sorts offered by the OP, I'm stickin' with the slut (provided I have her attention). She's real, she's motivated, and her morality comes from within.
I never seem to attract the good ones, only bad girls and sluts, who so far have always been a disappointment in all areas, even in bed.
Sex, intimacy, relationships- team sports all. Whatever the result, the responsiblity for it falls on both. jmho | |
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Posted: 9/3/2009 6:54:50 PM | I don't necessarily disagree with you.............
think you picked the wrong place.............overreacted to the language"
I don't care who disagress with me..that is what a FORUM is..debate..discussion..opinions..all learning
so to me it is not the wrong place...
I chose to say IT...in response to LANGUAGE( slut..whore..bad) which PERPETUATES adn maintains!! ingrained patterns and beliefs..that one can have for lifetime and may not even be their own..as
well as addressing the notion that a woman cannot be sexually free and GOOD..
BECAUSE I design and facilitate workshops on eroticism..is is a subject I feel passionately about..and I also see the DAMAGE done by language and its associations...which lay the foundation for confused relating.
I seek only to share here as all do..and it is MY hope that men and women can
SOMEDAY can work in partnership to FREE them selves from bulls8it concepts..like
playing games ot "get laid"...or as this thread shows..
PURE ignorance that women are sexual beings...and have a RIGHT to the same kind of freedom men have had for YEARS...
****srquandy...you see naughty as "risque"..
)/; impropriety,indelicacy,ribald ,indecent
I say IT IS NOTimproper to whisper to you at dinner or grab your knee..
it is not indelicate to tell you I want to tear your clothes off..
IT is NORMAL..hot behavior of a woman who is into you..she is not naughty..
dirty..risque..or improper..
***magic wand..Judging you by YOUR standards I could then say
that a man with a bandana comes off as a wanna be gang member/bad boy hopeful and a man who gives him self a name like magic wand..does not have one..??
but I won't..
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Posted: 9/3/2009 7:29:57 PM | So........
if I'm at your parents 50th Anniversary Party is a casual skirt and blouse acting respectable and holding an intelligent conversation w/ the other party goers......
and then fuk your brains out when we get home.....
Am I.....
Sweet and Innocent but can act Naughty......
or Am I.....
Naughty that can act Sweet and Innocent?
Labels are just that..........labels.
If you want to label me.......just call me a woman. | |
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Posted: 9/3/2009 10:37:40 PM | I love the element of surprise...sexy Lingerie....then slowly get naughty as the clothes seem to shed themselves...this kinda brings in all three elements to your question....and all three are very attractive if used properly and timed well.
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Posted: 9/4/2009 7:41:09 AM | | TantraD you need to relax; most people's terms of naughty; and bad and what have you are all just terms that society has implemented since the beginning of the sexual revolution, if not earlier. When I was younger, I have been called a whore, sleazy EZ, bad girl, etc lol was I really those things people (mostly women) assumed, nope not in a long shot. Did I care really? not too much, I know who and what I am: I'm a good girl in a bad, yes I said it BAD girl body haha Do I present myself in a proper manner in public, you bet your ass I do, because my Mother could be just around the corner to flick me in the forehead and drag my ass home ;D Am I a Freak in the sheets hells yes, does that mean I like to explore and enjoy " out of the norm" yes it does. It is not oppressive to relax and take it like a woman :D and baby it gets dirty. I find it more difficult to bear Vanilla Sex as well as try and avoid these "offensive" terms. Everyone is intitled to their opinions, but don't make other women try to feel bad because they don't mind when their SO calls them a dirty bad little siren in the sack, some of us like it. Some of us have accepted that these "bad" words are not that bad at all, and that it is damn fun to be Naughty and Nice all in one. xoxo | |
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Posted: 9/4/2009 9:38:58 AM | {"are all just terms that society has implemented since the beginning of the sexual revolution"},
Thats the point!
{"Everyone is intitled to their opinions, but don't make other women try to feel bad because they don't mind when their SO calls them a dirty bad little siren in the sack, some of us like it."}
If you like being labled then YOU have at it. I dont put much stock in it either way personally, Im just sayin....
{"Some of us have accepted that these "bad" words are not that bad at all"}
Society has deemed them "bad" and that is how most use them.. Dont believe me, re read the posts here!! | |
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Posted: 9/4/2009 10:28:20 AM | What I consider naughty may not fit your description of it.
But I do know this. When I feel respected, admired, valued, appreciated and cherished by a man I respect, admire, value, appreciate and cherish...
There's just no telling what I might want to do to demonstrate my appreciation.
Oh, I'll show you naughty alright. You gotta love a man who can fire up your imagination. They are such a rare gem. | |
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