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 Freedom at Last

Joined: 6/2/2007
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Posted: 7/17/2007 1:51:31 PM
The thoughts are there most of the time. The worst part when I'm like this is that I just do not function and making any decisions next to impossible.
 Girlflower

Joined: 3/12/2007
Msg: 252
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Posted: 7/17/2007 2:54:47 PM
We all should just start bucking each other up!....... Freedom you're going to be fine! Everyone is going to be fine if we all remember we're not alone... We Have POF and the good advice of all the wonerful people on here! Personally I spend time in the forums for fun and to learn how other people are coping in the Singles World... always reminding myself that tomorrow is another day...
 chas1027lex

Joined: 2/7/2007
Msg: 253
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Posted: 7/17/2007 6:49:04 PM
Sunspots, I reccomend you go to a doctor and get evaluated for depression. There is NO stigma for asking for help.
 Reidgis

Joined: 4/1/2006
Msg: 254
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Posted: 7/17/2007 7:13:25 PM
Have you ever heard of a gun? Quit whinning!
 oldschoolfish

Joined: 5/21/2007
Msg: 255
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Posted: 7/17/2007 7:23:44 PM
So very well said Dave!!! What are you doing Friday night>?lol
a lttle more serious back to the point.....YOUR NEVER REALLY ALONE! someone out there loves and cares for you.....share your hurts,feelings with someone...ANYONE!!! EVEN US HERE.... There is so much life out there...grab it hold, embrace it with every fiber of your being!!! There is always someone worse off than you are.....and very honestly fighting for thier life to just stay alive. Dont give up that chance to find a passion, a spark or the beauty of your next deep breath. Turn the corner and look at the daylight and know tomorrow is for you and living ....if you need us...we are here! with warm regards,mary
 LittleMissScareAll

Joined: 11/11/2006
Msg: 256
Depression and suicide
Posted: 7/17/2007 7:35:00 PM
I dunno about anyone else but therapists & psychiatrists always just made me EVEN MORE depressed. So I gave up on that. I figure this is the way I am. I'm apparently supposed to be depressed & have these thoughts. Otherwise, I wouldn't.
 Louisgjr32

Joined: 6/15/2007
Msg: 257
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Posted: 7/17/2007 9:27:51 PM
A little over six years ago. I was in a relationship that was good. Then went bad very quickly. I was very heartbroken and was so depressed that I had pretty much given up on life and didnt care anymore. I had actually tried to commet suicide. My parents did everything they could to keep me awake. I was sick for a few months afterwards and during that time I have met a few friends. One of them has been there for me ever since then. She is one of my best friends and we have been there for each other through good times and bad times. Friends who you can trust and talk to is a good thing to have when you just need someone to talk to when your feeling depressed. I still get depressed once in awhile but thats it.
 cfuehring

Joined: 3/5/2007
Msg: 258
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Posted: 7/17/2007 10:16:52 PM
I am that low already. I am not just lonely but I dont have a life either, my parents made sure of that, I cant actually kill myself so it just will take some time starving I guess. It would take a couple of months due to my weight, and it will be agony but all in all I think that it is the only way. My parents are the reason for this, they didnt and still dont care about me to this day. They havent given me the will to live, I thought that marrying the one I truely loved would of solved all my problems, however she left me for another guy and never looked back. So i guess this is it for me, life for me is over.
 angeleyes10

Joined: 7/14/2007
Msg: 259
Depression and suicide
Posted: 7/18/2007 3:39:25 AM
Hey There,

I'm so sorry to here you feel so low!! Why do you feel like taking your own life, is it just loneliness or could there be something else. I would seek advice and try to rationalise in your head why you really feel the way you do and then ask yourself if you could change anything in your life for the better. Just small steps tho. Good luck. x
 BuddhaNature

Joined: 12/8/2005
Msg: 260
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Posted: 7/18/2007 4:51:55 AM
LittleMissScareAll, you are in such a wonderful position and don't know it. You are correct about therapists making people more suicidal because they don't have any understanding of the situation. To be, or not to be, that is the question. See, Shakespeare got it! Life begins...after you ask the question. Some people can go 70 years without asking the question, yet they seem so dead to me, or so asleep to not recognize truth in the world.

So why are you in a wonderful position? Because "Shauna" is your first attempt at understanding the world. Shauna served her purpose for 20 years. Now is the time to go to step two and become awesome. Drop Shauna and create a new identity...one without a name, one that can change every second of every day. One that accepts everything at face value. One that sees love in everyone. One that doesn't read meaning into anything but lives a simple life based on what is real.

Can you allow the Shauna personality to symbolically die, that the real you may live? I promise every new moment will be full of vitality and feel eternal. Get the audiobook "Power of Now" or the paperback "Translucent Revolution" or "Disappearance of the Universe" and join the millions of us that have gone through the difficult stage you are at and get what life is about.
 BuddhaNature

Joined: 12/8/2005
Msg: 261
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Posted: 7/18/2007 5:04:47 AM
cfuehring, I challenge you to accept full responsibility for your life and to never give up that incredible power to anyone else. She left you...yes all things are impermanent. Can you accept truth and how the world works? You don't have a life because of your parents? That does not sound like truth to me. You are lonely and it is someone else's fault? That does not sound like truth to me either. Check out the website the work dot com by Byron Katie and she can set you on the road to finding truth everywhere.

All emotional suffering is caused by wrong thinking. I can promise you this statement is true and that I have not suffered emotionally in the last four years nor will I for the rest of my life. Get Byron Katie's "I Need Your Love" audiobook.
 childofgodus

Joined: 4/22/2007
Msg: 262
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Posted: 7/18/2007 5:07:02 AM
have you ever noticed that your very own time is not yours . each day spent for something else . all those things you;ve wanted to do in your life set aside
alone is the time to get those things going , in fact that project or that vaule is the very thing that makes your self interesting . having put all that energy in a relationship puts so much strain on a relationship maybe what destroys it and at least makes it over dependant
have you ever wanted to learn dance or a sport ? nows that time
 BuddhaNature

Joined: 12/8/2005
Msg: 263
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Posted: 7/18/2007 5:23:11 AM
Freedom_at_Last, just reading your two sentences I can see you've been suicidal for several years, you are crashing now, and are on the verge of calling it quits. You need a complete escape from daily life for the next several weeks. Can you find someone to take care of you physically while you work on yourself emotionally?

Promise me you will do one thing for the next 30 days. If it doesn't work, then you can continue on your terminal path. Promise me to awaken every morning as a new person that has nothing to do with the old self-image, opinions, ideas, morals, beliefs. Abandon all identification with the old. Your new self will be transparent. It will accept everything it sees as truth. It will not judge another because it will not have any beliefs. It will not have any wants because it sees itself as complete.

Eternity is in this moment. Can you feel the incredible power and love and perfection in this moment. Promise me to stay right here in this now for 30 days. Remember, don't create any thoughts, ideas, or beliefs for this transparent self you will be living. Let me know how it goes.
 Girlflower

Joined: 3/12/2007
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Posted: 7/18/2007 7:19:00 AM
BuddhaNature... I love what you said to Shauna so much I copied it to my notebook and will be changing the "Shauna to Girlflower" it is beautifully written and I believe if it is said over and over again it will bring out the best in everyone.

A 30 day challenge to become transparent.. to accept life on lifes terms, without preconceptions. To rewrite our history and our view of the life being lived takes practise. One thing I learned years ago from delving into Buddhism but seemed to have forgotten.. Thanks for my new "Mantra"

"Abandon all identification with the old. Your new self will be transparent. It will accept everything it sees as truth. It will not judge another because it will not have any beliefs. It will not have any wants because it sees itself as complete."

I've always told myself life is like a Tevee Show if you don't like the program change the channel.

Now where is that dang remote control?
Girlflower
 ShadesOfGray

Joined: 11/14/2006
Msg: 265
Depression and suicide
Posted: 7/18/2007 7:44:25 AM
There is so much terrible advice in these forums, it's quite disheartening.

I've been there, and I recovered. But that does NOT make me qualified to tell you how to live your life. Just because you considered suicide doesn't mean you know the first thing about my problems.

You aren't me and you never will be. Our problems may be entirely different.

The only thing I can say is... for true depression, at its core... there is no hope. For one inside this maze, there is seemingly only one way out. One way to make the suffering end. One way to change.

I wish, sometimes, that I could tell these people that while I don't know their problems and I can't tell them that I understand... that I think they should try some form of treatment before suicide. Suicide is always on the table. It won't go anywhere, so seeking treatment has little to no negative consequences if your only other options are the final solution.

But when someone says something like, "Suicide is an act of selfishness," I can't help but feel that perhaps the suicides are right. Surrounded by people like that, it's hard for me NOT to understand why you'd want to get out. But you aren't the only person who feels that way. I won't say you aren't alone, because I don't know. I just know I feel the same. I know how shitty people are.

And this nonsense about how someone always loves you... c'mon. Nobody loves the homeless people. You walk by and you avert your eyes and pretend they don't exist, so it's no surprise that in their mind they are worth nothing, because we've made them this way. Or at least allowed it to continue.

The truth is, we must all find our own paths. Some say God Bless, but to me, THAT is the madness. How can you understand ME if you belief in something so archaic? Are we even the same species, you and I?

There are no hard, fast rules to depression. Not all depression is based upon chemicals. I mean... why would I want my brain to operate like everyone else? So I can get married and have 2.5 kids and a white picket fence and listen to Coldplay? **** that shit. I don't want your normal life.

But I made my peace, somehow. I guess you could say I became comfortable with being alone, with the isolation, with people thinking they can just talk you out of it. "Oh, if only you'd talk to me, you'd know I love you, and you'd stay."

Oh, if only it was that simple.

But it isn't. It's not like that.

To some, it is a philosophical question at its core. Are the moments of happiness and relief I feel worth the suffering I go through? Should I continue to suffer because if I take my own life, others will be hurt? Is this not selfish on their parts, too? And if I'm just surrounded by selfish people who don't understand me, do I even care what happens to them?

These questions may sound insensitive or insane, but they are not uncommon. For me, at least. I found my own way to deal with them, but not everyone does.

My endless sympathy to those who suffer. If you ever want to talk, hit me up on AIM at Irish Loop. I won't promise to fix you. Or talk you out of anything. But I know some darkness and some suffering, and while that doesn't necessarily make me qualified to help you, maybe it'll be fun. Maybe, for a moment, we can find some common ground where we both know how it feels. I don't know.

But I feel it's worth a shot, always. Worth a shot at trying something else. Because suicide is always on the table.

You've got your whole life to end it, but if you do, you won't ever have another option.

I wish you luck and I have you all in my best wishes.

-J
 Fran67

Joined: 4/13/2007
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Posted: 7/18/2007 8:19:08 AM
Shades - I agree with your whole message :-) Just thought I'd let you know
And to everyone else - keep plugging away at it
Hugs to all
Fran xx
 LittleMissScareAll

Joined: 11/11/2006
Msg: 267
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Posted: 7/18/2007 10:06:46 AM

LittleMissScareAll, you are in such a wonderful position and don't know it. You are correct about therapists making people more suicidal because they don't have any understanding of the situation. To be, or not to be, that is the question. See, Shakespeare got it! Life begins...after you ask the question. Some people can go 70 years without asking the question, yet they seem so dead to me, or so asleep to not recognize truth in the world.

So why are you in a wonderful position? Because "Shauna" is your first attempt at understanding the world. Shauna served her purpose for 20 years. Now is the time to go to step two and become awesome. Drop Shauna and create a new identity...one without a name, one that can change every second of every day. One that accepts everything at face value. One that sees love in everyone. One that doesn't read meaning into anything but lives a simple life based on what is real.

Can you allow the Shauna personality to symbolically die, that the real you may live? I promise every new moment will be full of vitality and feel eternal. Get the audiobook "Power of Now" or the paperback "Translucent Revolution" or "Disappearance of the Universe" and join the millions of us that have gone through the difficult stage you are at and get what life is about.

Love in everyone? Is that supposed to be a joke or something? All I can see in anyone is hate. All anyone cares about is themselves. Nobody certainly loves me(except my family) so why should I be able to see any love in anyone else?
& I don't see anything wonderful about my position. It really sucks. And I'd basically KILL to be someone else...almost anyone else. It's not as easy as what you said. It sounded like one of those infomercials or something.
 wes1959

Joined: 7/13/2007
Msg: 268
Depression and suicide
Posted: 7/18/2007 10:10:56 AM
just piced up my prescriptions for antidepressants and anxiety plus a 40 of crown royal time to say my final goodbyes
 kawasaki

Joined: 4/21/2006
Msg: 269
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Posted: 7/18/2007 10:18:13 AM
oi when you feel like that watch a move of desaster or a war streken country and think how lucky you are to have a flushing toilet and running water
 LittleMissScareAll

Joined: 11/11/2006
Msg: 270
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Posted: 7/18/2007 10:21:17 AM
I agree with most of what ShadesofGray said. Not everyone is loved, and I don't believe that my depression comes from a chemical imbalance or some shit like that...I was on Paxil for probably 2 years or so. I'm not really sure how long I took the stuff, but I hated it. It helped me sleep and that was it. It done absolutely nothing for my depression or social anxiety. Only thing it helped was my panic attacks, and I believe that was only because my panic attacks came late at night...and on the Paxil all I done was sleep so there was no time for panic attacks. I was falling asleep at 8 pm...and that's not like me at all. That damn stuff just made me feel like a zombie or something. It also made me feel very dizzy all the time...I hated that dizzy feeling. I eventually just stopped taking it altogether. Every time since then that I've been to a therapist or psychiatrist they try to give me some stupid medication and I won't take it. I've told them I want to just talk through it and they don't give a **** about what I want...it's always "Well I really think you should try this medicine. Not all medication is the same so you need to see what works for you", blah blah... always the same BS. So I stop going to these careless ***holes because I don't want medication. I'll just either help myself, or stay depressed. Can't count on other dumbass people to help you anyway.
I'm pretty ok with being isolated too. Actually I prefer it most of the time. I'm not much of a people person. I like being around CERTAIN people sometimes...but I have to have time to myself anyway, or else I'd go crazy.
 LittleMissScareAll

Joined: 11/11/2006
Msg: 271
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Posted: 7/18/2007 10:26:23 AM
Another thing that always pissed me off about psychiatrists & therapists is how they always try to blame some certain thing for my depression or social anxiety... some of them blamed my parents, some of them blamed it on my being homeschooled from 9th-12th grade...my parents are certainly not to blame. I love my mom & dad more than anyone/anything in the world...they're the best people in the world, nobody comes close to comparing to them, and they're the best parents EVER. They're the only people that I feel really care about me...and it pisses me off when stupid doctors who don't know a damn thing about me or my family walk in there thinking they know it all and start blaming my parents. Makes me wanna punch them in the face.
And as for homeschool? If it wasn't for homeschool, there's a huge chance that I would have committed suicide back in high school if I hadn't been homeschooled. It was THAT bad. Homeschool saved my life.
 ByWayofBeanTown

Joined: 10/16/2006
Msg: 272
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Posted: 7/18/2007 2:36:09 PM
Im tearing up reading this guys..
I am nowhere near qualified to guess at or pretend to know how to help..or what even to say for that matter..

But PLEASE before you take such a tragic turn... PLEASE PLEASE reach out to someone.. The Bible...A neighbor that usually wont even look at u walking by...Hell reach out to me... I just believe every life is precious..



I know im being a baby... but sometimes unfortunately people need you to say... I dont know you...but i care if u live or die. I have recently had two ppl i know commit suicide... And to think If i had have just said something like that..
 madisongp

Joined: 9/24/2006
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Posted: 7/18/2007 3:19:54 PM
Hi to all but having suffered from long term manic depression (or as its called now bipolar disorder) all i can say you can and will get through it. Suicide is a long term solution for a relatively short term problem, I was lucky I lived theres lots of things you can do church is ok poetry worked for me so dont give up. PLEASE TRUST ME ON THIS you will always have to watch for it but it can be controlled.
Gav
 madisongp

Joined: 9/24/2006
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Posted: 7/18/2007 3:31:20 PM
It is a chemical imbalance in the brain, but the prescription drugs dont always work just got to get the natural ones working some times harder to do than to say. I took exercise as a way out and lost a shit load of weight as well WIN WIN.
Gav
 madisongp

Joined: 9/24/2006
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Posted: 7/18/2007 3:39:13 PM
Bit harsh
Have you ever heard of a gun? Quit whinning!
if you ever or unlucky enough to suffer ill buy you the gun.
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This has to be one of the hardest things to deal with, but at least I had the manic bit to offset the depression. Ive lost a good mate to suicide but he used rope its not something folks whine about
Gav
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