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 Re_THICK_ulous
Joined: 6/21/2007
Msg: 276
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I think that no matter if your with someone or not you can be depressed and feel alone I speak form experience in saying that I have been in relationships where I real felt worse with the person than I was when we were not togather. It like a saying we have all heard you can be in a room full of people and still feel alone. So what does it mean... maybe one should take the time out to get to know yourself what you like,e.t.c it will then make it easier to draw people in your life that are similar in their beliefs in the meantime enjoy yourself.. I have my days when I'm down, stressed out such as life .. but I find differnts ways of engaging myself hobbies, work, friends (not just male) and it passes. Again I'm only 26 years old and sometimes I do wonder will I be an old maid...but if so oh well I'm going to have fun on the journey. And if i didn't make my self clear lack of companionship has never made me feel sucidal be cause I have learned that I am my best friend. And its a lesson which I might add is not the easiest to learn but when you do it make your life a whole lot better.
Much love to all of you though the website is very enlighting to me and i really enjoy chat it up with everyone
 LittleMissScareAll
Joined: 11/11/2006
Msg: 277
Depression and suicide
Posted: 7/18/2007 8:13:20 PM

I think that no matter if your with someone or not you can be depressed and feel alone

That's true, but I'm usually more depressed when I don't have anyone...makes me feel like nobody gives a **** about me. Which, they don't.
 FireKnight
Joined: 4/24/2006
Msg: 278
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Posted: 7/19/2007 8:20:42 AM
LittleMiss I am confident beyond shadow of doubt that people do give a shit about you. Be it family or friend or even someone who you don't even realize.

BELIEVE me I understand being alone, and feeling alone far better then most. Even I get reminded that despite that feeling there are aparently people who give a crap after all. And I'm one in general whose been trained to try to avoid attachments so its odd to be reminded.

Trust in this much lass there is always more to your life then you see at a given time.
 LittleMissScareAll
Joined: 11/11/2006
Msg: 279
Depression and suicide
Posted: 7/19/2007 10:44:13 AM
I didn't mean family or friends. I know my parents & at least my best friend care about me...but I meant like a boyfriend/girlfriend type person. None of those people have ever cared about me. Not even a little bit.
 Sisal56
Joined: 9/16/2007
Msg: 280
Depression and suicide
Posted: 9/22/2007 7:11:35 PM
HI I AM IN DEPRESSION SINCE I WAS 27Y OLD.AND AT 47Y OLD I TRIED TO SUICIDE,BUT NO I WOKE UP IN THE HOSPITAL PSYCHIATRIST WARD.AND FOR 4Y I TRIED AGAIN TO SUICIDE MYSELF.AND NOW I AM 51Y OLD AND I AM STILL IN DEPRESSION.THE DOCTOR TOLD ME THAT I WILL BE DEPRESSE FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.I WILL ALWAYS BE ON MEDICATIONS.ABOUT 3 WEEKS A GO HE TOOK SOME PILLS OUT.AND MY MORAL IS GOING LOWER AND LOWER,BUT TOLD HIM ,BUT DID NOT DO ANY THING YET,I FELL TIRED ALL THE TIME NOW AND SOME TIMES I STILL THINK TO SUICIDE MYSELF AGAIN.AND DON'T HAVE ANY ENERGY FOR THE DAY.I CAN'T DO THIS ANY MORE.I HAVE NURSES THAT COME AND SEE ME 2 DAYS A WEEK THEY TRY TO HELP ME,BUT DOES NOT WORK FOR ME.WHEN THEY ARE GONE ITS ALL START AGAIN IN MY HEAD.I GOT A SPECIAL DOCTOR FOR MY DEPRESSION.AND WHEN I AM IN THIS CONDISION,DON'T WANT TO SEE NOBODY EVEN MY FAMILY.YOU HAVE TO BE IN DEPRESSION TO NO WHAT DEPRESSION IS.SO I NO WHEN PEOPLE TALK TO ME ABOUT DEPRESSION,I NO WHATS GOING TRUE THERE MIND.I WISH THERE WAS A MIRACLE PILL BUT IT DOES NOT EXIT YET,MAYBE IN THE FUTURE,FOR ARE CHILDREEN'S,I HOPE SO.NOW I AM STARTING A COURSE IN COMPUTER,HOPE THAT WILL HELP ME.TO ALL THE PEOPLES THAT ARE DEPRESSE AND DONT HAVE A PSYCHIATRIST DOCTOR GO AND SEE ONE,DON'T WAIT,THATS THE WORST NIGHT MAIRE THAT COULD HAPPEN.DON'T STAY ALONE,CAUSE SOME PILLS THAT THE DOCTOR PRECRIBES ARE GOOD AND SOME TIME LIKE ME THEY HAVE TO CHANGE THEM.BUT ME I AM STILL WAITING FOR OTHER PILLS ITS REALLY HARD YOU NO.I TRY TO COPE WITH IT UNTIL HE WILL PRECRIBES ME WITH OTHER PILLS.AND I DO BELIEVE IN DEPRESSION CAUSE I HAVE IT MY SELF.TO ALL OF YOU OUT THERE IF YOUR ARE SUFFERING OF DEPRESSION,PLEASE DON'T WAIT THAT YOU DO THE ACTION TO SUICIDE YOUR SELF.GO AND SEE A SPECIALIST DOCTOR FOR IT.GOD LOVE YOU I DO.TAKE CARE NOW. AND DON'T FORGET IF WE TAKE ARE LIFE THE PEOPLES THAT YOU WILL LEAVE BEHIND,WILL WONDER I SHOULD OF DONE THIS OR THAT.BUT IT AIN'T THERE FAULT,ITS ONLY US AND US ALONE WHO CHOSES WHAT WE SHOULD DO IN THOSE CRUEL MOMENTS.BUT IT TAKE ONLY A MINUTE TO DECIDE ARE DESTINY.I NO WHAT IT IS CAUSE I TRIED MY SELF TO TAKE MY OWN LIFE.SOME TIME ITS NOT WORTHED CAUSE AFTHER WE HAVE PUT ARE BODY IN MORE SICKNESS THEN WE WARE BEFORE.ALWAYS HAVE TO THINK TO DAY RAIN AND TOMOROW SUN WILL SHINE.I GUEST TAKING ARE OWN LIFE IS A COWERD WAY OUT THAT WHAT I BEEN TOLD.PLEASE BE HAPPY,SMILE,TODAY IS TODAY AND TOMOROW WILL BE ANOTHER DAY AGAIN.HOPE I WILL SAVE SOME ONE TO DAY WITH WHAT I WROTE.ONE PERSON IS BETTER THEN ANY AT ALL.LOVE YOU ALL TAKE CARE.XXOO SISAL. AND I NO WHAT YOUR GOING TRUE,CAUSE I AM IN IT TO WHRIGHT NOW DEPRESSION.
 sonofagun28
Joined: 9/4/2007
Msg: 281
Depression and suicide
Posted: 9/23/2007 10:33:07 AM
hey old dude I see that you do not have a religion so my advise is get one and you get a reason to live and go on otherwise carry on as long as you can without one which sounds like it wont be much longer now.
 tingle28
Joined: 9/24/2007
Msg: 282
Depression and suicide
Posted: 1/15/2008 1:02:02 AM
hi my mum has depression and tried comminting suicide on monday last week but luckily she was found before it was to late. the reason people get that low from clinical depression is because a lack of serotonin in the brain as the neurons shut down and cannot release that happy hormone, this then pushes them into a place which can only be described like a black hole or a box they can't see past. i've spoken to my mum and she's now recieveing help but it was terrible that she had to get to that low point for someone to see she needed other help than just pills shuved in her hand.when this black cloud descends on someone with depression they cannot seem to really connect to the outside world even their loved ones. their loved ones are the ones they want to hide from the most. and when they then decide to take their lives because they can't see past that dark cloud they cannot see their going to hurt anyone they just want the drastic feeling of lonlyness to end.
 tingle28
Joined: 9/24/2007
Msg: 283
Depression and suicide
Posted: 1/15/2008 1:11:34 AM
Have you ever heard of a gun? Quit whinning Reidgis on 7/18/2007 325 AM

that is the most black and white view i've heard on here yet, depression is a medical illness which needs to be treated and not just left to linger. yes there are two forms of depression assesed one being depression through something like grieving and clinical depression where you body doesn't produce the correct amount of serotonin (happy horomone). as well as going through it with a family member i am also a nurse and have worked with people who have this illness and it's horrendous. they need medication and councilling to learn how to cope with their illness the same as someone with diabetes like myself. learn to have some compassion
 niceboyblue
Joined: 1/5/2008
Msg: 284
Depression and suicide
Posted: 1/15/2008 5:32:05 AM
what could make someone reach that point

why would someone do this take his / her life and the children


i know someone who had contemplated doing just that in question but he could not go through with it the reasons why he was contemplating it was he wasnot thinking straight he had his whole life taken away from him and nothing left to lose so he thought do that leave his ex wife with the thoughts of living without none of them so theres revenge aswell involved
some may not think they can not cope on there own i know that as im in that stage at the moment in my life ( but ive never thought of murder/suicide its wrong)
they may feel let down down by the law on custody issues and see it as if they cannot see there children whats the point of living i know that if my ex stopped me seeing my kids i would go to any lengths to see them except doing this

people always criticse the parent for doing murder/suicide but maybe they see it as the only option

but remember if your contemplating doing something stupid , your only thinking of it seek some friendly advice from a good close friend or relative
as suicide is not worth it noone can make you feel that bad
and look on it this way if your at rock bottom there only one way to go and thats up
 citronella
Joined: 3/15/2007
Msg: 285
Depression and suicide
Posted: 1/15/2008 5:56:54 AM
hi,depression! well, i have to say, there are differant types,of depression, loads of us feel low, depressed at times!, but cna normally ovecome it, but clinical depression i belive, can be ongoing, may need medication, counseling, thro mental health teams, elsewhere, i feel for you, as its so hard to understand! as when one has a broken leg, etc, one can see, but depression, is so hard difficult, traumatic! for the person, sometime caused by a chemical, imbalance of the brain! i got married, 6 months later my husband committed suicide! he was only 47, i wasnt aware, till the inquest, he had suffered with depressin long before he met me! he was always so much fun! the irony of it all 3 months earlier, i found out my only son has acute myelod lukimea! i wasnt angry with my husband, just sad, he masked his feelings so well, from me! the thing is as well, mental health issues and deperssion, take sometimes, forever to get someone on the right medication! to get the balance right, so they can lead a better qualaity life! what makes, it harder for me i look after my grown up daughter, and grandson who are both mentally ill, so one would have thought, i would have been clued up about my late husband! but no one knows, really, understands the mind of mentally ill, people, and those who suffer with depression! its easy for people to judge! and say nothing is worth taking your own life! but its a chemical imbalance in my opinion, when 1 is so low depressed lonly, its difficult for one to understand! the torment they must be suffering? but i urge you to continue, to seek help via doctors, mental health team! after many yrs, my daughter and grandson tho on medicatin, have come thro some very dark times! and have a better quality of life now! going places, thye never thought woud happen, all i can wish you is peace, love, please, continue to see your doctor, im sure in time things will come right for you again! takes time! hugs citronella x
 wantfun4us2
Joined: 11/19/2007
Msg: 286
Depression and suicide
Posted: 1/15/2008 10:05:00 AM
Man, this is really depressing, there is no answer in ending it man, hang in there, things will always get better even if they get worse first.....and remember, this is no bullshit even though it is one of those old sayings, what really hurts us DOES make us stronger....peace bro....
 drumsafrican
Joined: 5/6/2006
Msg: 287
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Posted: 1/15/2008 6:19:41 PM
Why are you even asking these questions? I am alarmed! If you are feeling that depressed and thinking suicidal thoughts, please get some immediate professional help from your family doctor and/or a psychotherapist or counsellor! Judith
 tingle28
Joined: 9/24/2007
Msg: 288
Depression and suicide
Posted: 1/16/2008 6:54:22 AM
drumsafrican i know you mean well but alot of the time g.p's just give you pills not proper help and you have to wait to see a shrienk thqat's why some people only see this as a option
 freddee Smith
Joined: 1/16/2008
Msg: 289
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Posted: 1/19/2008 2:26:52 PM
I recently attempted suicide. It was a well planned out event, unfortunately I made two mistakes. One, I decided not to jump from the top of the hotel because I didn't want to ruin anyone’s vacation (yes I am considerate even when suicidal). Two, I miscalculated how quickly people would be able to figure out where I was (three times zones away from where anyone expected me to be). If the "rescuers" had been 1-2 minutes later I would be worm food.

I spent a week in a treatment facility on a legal hold and was finally discharged. My discharge was quite unusual in that my doctor and therapist didn't want to be responsible for my release (or for keeping me since they could not see how they could help). So I got to go to Mental Health Court, where the opening statement of one of the court doctors was "He planned his trip to ***** with the intent of suicide. I believe he is still an extreme risk of suicide..." this is when the other doctor interrupted "I agree completely". They recommended that I continue to be held, but also stated that from my file they did not believe treatment would be beneficial. So since the court doctors/judge did not want to be responsible for letting me out (or keeping me) and they didn't want to make the treatment center responsible, so they required my father to sign for me, thereby making my release his responsibility.

Since then I have met with two other doctors/therapists and both have had basically the same opinion. That only I or God can help me.

My suicide is not driven by depression. It is driven by my beliefs. I vowed "till death do us part" and I also do not believe that an adult should be a drain on their society. Furthermore, when an adult becomes a drain on their society they have a clear responsibility to remedy the situation quickly. Do to current life circumstances I have gotten aid from many, many friends and family. Some of which really shouldn't (couldn't) afford it. I know when I will no longer be a drain but, the timeline is well outside what I consider acceptable.

The only time I am at peace with myself and feel like my normal self is when I have a clear well thought-out action plan for suicide that I am currently following.
 shelbysmom
Joined: 1/8/2008
Msg: 290
Depression and suicide
Posted: 1/19/2008 6:30:32 PM
You are responsible for your happiness. As long as you wait for someone else to give it to you, you will never have it.

Those words are soooooo true and I know because Ive been expecting people to make me happy for a very long time. In October I took a bunch of pills and the man I thought loved me waited for 13 hours before he called for help, when I asked him why he didn't wait longer he told me I wasn't dying quick enough and he had better things to do that day. Dave is right you are responsible for your happiness, tell your family doctor how you are feeling, ask he/she to help you with meds, therapy whatever it takes, just don't do what I did it isn't the answer.

If you ever just want to chat please feel free to message me, Im a good listener.

Sending you Light and Hugs,

Debbie
 mtonkin222
Joined: 2/23/2008
Msg: 291
Depression and suicide
Posted: 4/7/2008 3:18:36 AM
I'm depressed, lonely, and thinking of suicide. I haven't been successful in meeting someone and am ready to give up. I just cannot accept all the rejection I am facing and the pain of being lonely. There just isn't any hope for me and I would rather be dead than lonely! Does anybody have any ideas on how I can help myself feel better? I just can't handle being alone and rejected anymore.
 FireKnight
Joined: 4/24/2006
Msg: 292
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Posted: 4/7/2008 10:00:06 AM
Mtonkin first and foremost if you realize you are feeling this way and you are thinking of suicide then take the steps to get some help. I and hopefully others will give you some steps and ideas to move forward but there is NO shame in going and finding professional help.

Second you need to realize that you aren't alone, or rather not as alone as you think you are. One of the saddest truths about modern society is almost everyone is feeling dispossessed and seeking contact and communication at the least. What you most need to do is change your activity cycle so as to be out among people more often outside of "looking for a date" Join some classes on something you're intrested in or enjoy. As it turns out there are usually large numbers of women in these classes and few men. Go out to public events such as outdoor fairs, concerts, and plays.

Take time to enjoy who you are
 NERO1
Joined: 3/8/2008
Msg: 293
Depression and suicide
Posted: 4/7/2008 10:23:00 AM
Around 14 or so I did. But I'm glad I didn't act on it.

I think some of it depends on what your personal & deepest views on any "afterlife" might be. I think a person who (like me) ultimately , if pressed to say, does NOT truly believe there is any type of conscious existence "after" (as much as I would like to think there were) may be less likely to actually be able to go through with the act. People who go through with it, to some extent, I think some of them may sincerely believe they are going to a "better place", etc. Or, that they are about to "be with" their dead loved ones for example.

In reality I'd be willing to bet my bottom dollar (a bet we could never find out who wins of course ) that it's just .......nothing. Like before you were born. You don't exist. And I'm not in any hurry to "let go" like that. I hope that when I do have to it's somehow quick and not some long drawn-out thing like one of my close family just went through.

The power of personal beliefs is crucial to this kind of thing one way or the other, I feel. Imagine for example a Hamas militant recruiter trying to get an agnostic or borderline atheist "cultural" Muslim w/no strong afterlife belief to strap on a suicide vest. Barring serious mental illness, it's not going to happen.

People who commit suicide in any way, I think probably nearly to a man are people who ought to have been or would have been viable "candidates" (if you will) for psych wards & hospitals -- long stays. Serious meds, ongoing therapies, etc etc. Combining that kind of illness, and it IS that, with certain types of religious beliefs about paradise , and / or reuniting with long-lost loved ones, etc etc, can be practically a recipe for making self-destruction seem like not such a big deal. Animals don't self-destruct; in fact they generally fight for life, even the smallest organisms like insects. Our larger and more elaborately wired brains allowing for abstract thought , the thing which makes us "us", can be a double-edged sword to us at times...
 NERO1
Joined: 3/8/2008
Msg: 294
Depression and suicide
Posted: 4/7/2008 10:33:45 AM
QUOTE: I recently attempted suicide. It was a well planned out event, unfortunately I made two mistakes. One, I decided not to jump from the top of the hotel because I didn't want to ruin anyone’s vacation (yes I am considerate even when suicidal). Two, I miscalculated how quickly people would be able to figure out where I was (three times zones away from where anyone expected me to be). If the "rescuers" had been 1-2 minutes later I would be worm food.


>>>> You sound disturbingly "bound and determined" freddee smith. Some people plan them out like this for San Francisco, the Golden Gate, thinking it will be a sort of vaguely romantic way to go out. I don't think it is though, in reality. It takes approximately 4.3 seconds to hit the water from the side rail of that bridge and the human body falls at approximately 75 to 85 miles per hour. Thus striking the water is equivalent to a dump truck going that fast and suddenly slamming into a concrete wall. That's basically the impact. Bodies are mangled and broken when pulled out of the water a little while later , usually via large fish or crab hooks and placed onto the white tray for transport to the coroner's. If the jumper goes at night with no ID on him, he may never be found, his shattered body taken far out into the Pacific, more than likely shark food fairly quickly.

But, 4 seconds to end a life!! What a waste ! Think of the bald children in the cancer wards at the children's memorial hospitals , only 8 or 10 yrs old, who would probably give anything to have a relatively healthy body like you (probably) have and most of those SF and other suicides probably had as well. Waste indeed. Of course you don't care about waste, or other peoples' suffering, do you? Well, that's up to you. It's no bother to me or any other stranger if you do this. But if you say you only feel happy and "at peace" while actively planning out your own demise, then it doesn't sound like you can be talked out of it anyway. So "godspeed" then.
 NERO1
Joined: 3/8/2008
Msg: 295
Depression and suicide
Posted: 4/7/2008 10:40:03 AM
QUOTE: I'm depressed, lonely, and thinking of suicide. I haven't been successful in meeting someone and am ready to give up. I just cannot accept all the rejection I am facing and the pain of being lonely. There just isn't any hope for me and I would rather be dead than lonely! Does anybody have any ideas on how I can help myself feel better? I just can't handle being alone and rejected anymore.

>>>> mtonkin, think of the reality of the act. The finality. Infinity. No more you. Ever. You're seriously contemplating this somehow primarily as a result of being upset about not "meeting someone"????? Or being "rejected" (by women presumably)??? Come on man!! Firstly grow a pair, as a man. Men are men, and you're sounding like a high school sophomore girl with a crush who's just been told "mr.right" doesn't want her. Where's your pride? Secondly, as I said seriously think of the reality of the act itself. What you will (literally) do to yourself. Look up pics of suicide victims online. Think if you have it in you to do that to your own body. It's so twisted, when you think about it. I've seen so many pics of suicides; it's one of the worst things to see. Dante called one whole circle of hell , "the dim forest of suicides". Of course I don't believe in a literal "hell" (except as certain states of mind and being right here on earth -- like what leads to suicide for example). But, I think , religious or not, there are still a few things that are worthy of being called "sin". One of them is doing something like that to yourself. Horrible horrible horrible. If you're serious, check yourself in somewhere for help; Emergency Room is a fair idea. Good luck w/that.
 *LoisLane*
Joined: 4/1/2008
Msg: 296
Depression and suicide
Posted: 4/7/2008 12:45:23 PM
Mtonkin,

If you are seriously contemplating suicide for whatever reason -- it doesn't matter -- you should seek help and NOW! Please don't conduct any online research into it, as it may fuel your despair. It doesn't matter what gender you are, both genders are prone to feeling lonely and despondent. The only thing that may help you at this point, is to seek help from outside sources. I think every city has a suicide hotline. Call them, they are there to talk to you and help you. Through that channel you can get leads to the prolonged support you need.

We have all been there. We have all been rejected and abandoned but don't let that take your hope for better days to come. I pray you get some comforting advice from more people here. Please do seek out help.
 blueyesrsmiling
Joined: 5/31/2007
Msg: 297
Depression and suicide
Posted: 4/7/2008 1:47:12 PM

Not a topic that many people even contemplate. But for some it starts looking like a good option.
While depression can strike for many reasons,



My Husband was my heart and soul....the day he died I also died.....it has been the hardest thing that I ever dealt with. It felt like someone had ripped my heart to pieces. There was no stopping him.......I lost everything I was stripped to the bones with nothing left inside myself for many years. My Daughter has struggled with a eating disorder..........the guilt the suviors feel are what they remember that person by. The happy memories are gone and replaced by a nightmare.
OP you say your lonely but this is mental illness. Depression is a very hard thing to deal with but it can be fought and won. You keep going to the Doctor you keep trying medications....there isn't a one fit all medication everyone is different. NAMI the National Association of the Mentally Ill can be a great source of help. I have had the privlege to meet many people that have battle this and won.......but they use all the resources they have to battle it. Family can be very important in helping you fight this battle. There are many many resources....but you have to fight back.
Your Brothers, Sisters, Mother, Father and Children will be at a increased risk for suicide and it increases up to 50 %........
My life is being put back together. I still have the guilt even through I know it wasn't my fault.......My Daughter and I have went to grief counseling for a long time. I am much stronger now.....changed.......not as free as I use to be.
Good luck..............Blue
 NERO1
Joined: 3/8/2008
Msg: 298
Depression and suicide
Posted: 4/7/2008 9:12:52 PM
Wow. Sorry to read that post blueyes. Brutal. I guess in a certain sense people who are perhaps beginning to contemplate it should also think this kind of post over, along with many other things... If they have any loved ones at all, in a sense it's almost like they'd kill them too. Part of them at least. Or pretty much ruin the rest of those survivors' lives, that's for sure....
 ~Hello~
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 299
Depression and suicide
Posted: 8/22/2008 8:53:34 AM

It is important to really listen to someone who says they want to hurt themselves. Most suicides are a method to try to end the pain. Many times the pain comes from lonliness and isolation.

You can still feel isolated if you have people around you, but one way to make a person feel less isolated and alone is to listen. Ask them why they feel the way they do, how long they felt like this, and really listen let them talk if they will. This alone will help a lot. Then after you have done that, you may offer to help them find professional support, and another important thing is to check up on the person. Call them every once in a while and make sure things are going okay. If they need to talk again then again it is important that you listen and offer your support. Advise is what may seem natural for you to give but your listening and your support is way more important.


As one who has and does struggle with this issue, the above post was .. to me .. the very best advice yet ... at least to those who are dealing with someone who is struggling.

to say "it always gets better" is b.s. - no it doesn't "Always" get better
There are those who have attempted suicide only to fail at 'even' that.. There are soooo many walking wounded in our society .. some are addicted .. some are on "character inhibiting" meds .. some are faking it - for Your comfort.

The post above (sorry I forgot to make note of who posted it) .. LISTEN .. sometimes being Heard - without being given advice, without being told to "snap out of it" .. without being told "it'll get better" or "there's always someone worse" .. Just LISTEN. Most people don't or can't listen to the hard stuff without interrupting or running away .. Too many people think that the person who talks about suicide is just looking for attention .. Maybe they are! And what would be wrong with giving a little time and attention to someone who is in so much emotional pain that they feel the only way to lessen that pain may be through ending their life?
There have been too many suicides .. too many people who have screamed they want to die, too many who think they're "bluffing" .. and so they prove they meant what they said ..
If you can't imagine the pain that takes a person to that deep dark place, please don't judge those who know that darkness - it certainly doesn't help.

LISTEN .. just shut up and listen.

A.S.is

My cousin shot himself .. my "family" said they didn't understand why he was dead and I was still alive .. they were there for him...
A young man hung himself just a couple weeks ago .. he'd been talking about it for weeks before .. they told him to "snap out of it" .. so he did.

People kill themselves all the time, for many reasons ... The one thing that MIGHT help is if someone just Listened.

I'd like to thank the person who made the post I quoted .. sorry I didn't make note of your nic... Thanks
 dream on Dave
Joined: 10/19/2006
Msg: 300
Depression and suicide
Posted: 8/23/2008 11:07:41 AM
Thought of it .Planed it like tommorow. Not a cry for help no going back. Hospitalised on that day for a considerable time. Fate who knows never very far away. A solitaty life isnt an option.
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