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Posted: 5/21/2007 8:58:30 PM | Well my friend, I will tell you this. I am considered tall,( by most people) 5 feet 8 inches .when I was younger, I hated being taller then all the boys. But now, I love my height. This is something I do know....most women like a man that is taller then them. I have had this conversation with many of my girlfriends about this subject( being considered tall myself) and ladies like to feel safe with a man. I do not mean 100% that they can phisically protect them, I think what Im trying to say is, there is no better feeling, then having a man, being able to really hold you. most women love that feeling of security. I can honestly say that I have been with men who were shorter then me, and I always felt a bit uncomfortable. I love to be able to hold a man, and either be right on his level, or look up to him a bit.I can't really contribute much to this, I only know that most women ( at least the ones I have spoken to about this) always want the man the same height, or taller.p.s to bad your gorgrous girl got away. Maybe you'll meet another .  | |
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Posted: 5/21/2007 10:04:27 PM | Here, here dawn...you read it as I did.
I'm tall and I want a man taller than myself...don't know why I just do. It's my preference just as it may be a man's preference to not date a tall, large woman. I think anyone who expects their ideal in others needs to accept the fact others want the same...delusional is a good word. | |
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Posted: 5/21/2007 10:11:58 PM | | Every thread is the exact same on here....Not everyone is going to be perfect on an internet site. FOr that fact even in real life. Get over it, some people may be short.. hell i should lose 20 pounds accoring to all the people ****ing about fat chicks on here.. GET OVER IT We are who we are unless WE want to change it. If guys were actually so concerned about being to short they could get Calf Extention Surgery.. didnt think so!! But you expect us to have fake boobs and a lipoed ass... I dont think so.. move on when someone has something interesting to talk about onthis site maybe i will join in... | |
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Posted: 5/22/2007 4:30:36 AM | geoffreyarnold ( http://forums.plentyoffish.com/5378476datingPostpage5.aspx ) wrote:
I think everyone deserves the best. Nobody should have to settle for gutter crap. Well, in that case, that would make me the gutter crap. But, at least we get a look into the female psyche. Apparently, height determines a man's relationship, romantic, sexual, physical worth/value. A guy that is 5'3 is SEVERE gutter crap. A guy that is 5'5 is BAD gutter crap. A guy that is 5'9 is MODERATE gutter crap. A guy that is 6'0 is decent. A guy that is over 6'0 is attractive. Trust me. You don’t want a woman who thinks like that. And I know what you’re thinking. “O.K. that shallow woman is good enough for the 6’0”, but not good enough for me because I’m 5’9”?” No, but seriously . . . those women are shallow and when your shallow about one thing, you’re often shallow about a lot of other things. It’s better to wait a little longer, take a few more rejections, and find a great woman with a great heart; than it is to be tall and attract the wrong types of women. And if you’re a tall guy you’re not going to be able to distinguish the women who are only with you because you’re tall from the ones who genuinely would like you for you (both women would smile in your face). That’s why I think the divorce rate is so high. I also read that shorter guys have longer and happier marriages (no surprise there). ...
I recommend checking out the referenced thread. geoffreyarnold is a very articulate on the subject throughout.
Otherwise you can continue here with:
geoffreyarnold wrote:
The rest of the thread was basically women saying how much they hate short guys and how they only date guys over 6'0" (which is statistically impossible). | |
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Posted: 5/24/2007 10:20:30 AM |
Some people are still missing the jist of the OP's question.
Yes they are and I believe you understood the question correctly. In addition, i think OP embedded a second question in his argument which was why is it ok for females to discriminate against height while a man can't do the same for weight. He definitely has a point since females who express their liking of taller men (which they have the right to do) are never challenged. However, when a man communicates that he has no interest in an overweight woman (which he has the right to do), he immediately gets branded as “shallow” and attacked accordingly. It is this hypocrisy he is questioning! | |
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Posted: 5/24/2007 10:29:05 AM | Whilst I think it risibly absurd for an individual to take umbrage if they are not aesthetically pleasing to another person, equally, I think it a somewhat shallow and unwise attitude to place considerable excessive emphasis on physical attributes when considering someone romantically.
If this is the case, I am, however, grateful because it separates the men from the boys, the asinine from the intelligent, the dependable from the undependable, the petulant from the forbearing etc, and having been alerted to their less than pleasing disposition: grateful because it allows me to walk very quickly away!
Suffice to say, I am not offended in the slightest, by men who are looking for waif like women. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2007 10:31:40 AM |
They long for a man who is taller then them but also ask why men have a hard time accepting their heavier set build.
I am a woman who is as you say heavy set . I admit clearly in my profile that I have extra weight . I do not look for a man taller than me , or shorter .... I am not about to put height restrictions into who may be a good fit for me . I do believe it is about what is inside , what their personality is like . Sure I have preferences , I prefer clean shaven men , but tall or short really doesn't matter. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2007 10:47:37 AM | It is interesting when reading a profile to see the description people give to themselves when describing their body type. I weigh 165 pounds and I am 5' 7” consequently I feel I belong in the “Big/Tall” category (I truly despise the acronym ‘BBW’).
It would appear there seems to be many differing opinions; I have seen women who are obviously very overweight describing themselves as "a few extra pounds,” which, without disrespect, I find stretching the truth to the point of invisibility.
I sometimes wonder if my body type description is the reason that my profile has been viewed by many men, yet I have probably only received messages from an eighth of them - not a complaint, just an observation; note the content of my last posting! | |
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Posted: 5/24/2007 11:01:27 AM | | well tell you what all these man is write all the way have been strotyped out over my height all my life have eveion been told bye woman that no woman wants a man there own size thay want a man to look up to was eveion told bye one woman will be all alone for years so how can woman eveion say these as thay us it one me every time | |
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Posted: 5/24/2007 11:05:06 AM | | gracy9110 have to tell yu thanks guy want to chat with you you are so dam write all the way guy | |
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Posted: 5/24/2007 8:51:21 PM | I'm TALL not a reall BBW but definitly plus-sized. I prefer men taller than me, just never cared for short men. I also prefer a well-nourished man, never like thin men either.
BUT....men don't like me cause I'm over-weight.....plus the breast cancer even tho I'm NOT dying!
So I'm guessing there must be alot of lonely shallow men who'd prefer to be alone than w/ a chubby gal. | |
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Posted: 5/28/2007 10:58:06 AM | | Wow, lots of interesting opinions, I read them all and like to throw in this. For starters, I thank the people who seen my real question. It wasn't "why women prefer taller fit men" or why "men prefer fit women who are shorter then them", it was ultimately "why women ask for so many specific preferences, but then expect men to see there inner side" (I realize some men are the same) I've seen some posts on here from women who are tall who absolutely will not date a shorter guy. Thats a preference and everyone should respect that. At the same time, don't expect a lot of men to see "the inner you" or for that matter "the outer you". Its our preferences and we are entitled to them as well. My post was just to question people with profiles with tons of physical preferences they must have, but at the end of it all, want the man to most importantly see the inner part of them. For me, reading womens profiles that are like that (Lots of them too) it leaves me no question to why they are single, or struggling to find that perfect someone. Its ok for you not to be perfect, but we have too? Good luck! | |
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Posted: 5/28/2007 11:23:22 AM | Whats wrong with hoping to find a man taller than me and who also has inner beauty....thats what Im holding out for!!
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Posted: 5/28/2007 11:47:53 AM | Hermia you think you should be in the bbw categorie?Do you know the bbw categorie is for over size 18 . At you height and weight there is no way you are over a size 18 .
Average is for those who are average sized which is a 12 to 14 depending. So while a few extra pounds may sound deceptive to some that is actually the only option for those over a 14 but not over a 18 . | |
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Posted: 5/28/2007 11:50:37 AM |
If guys were actually so concerned about being to short they could get Calf Extention Surgery Looked into it. The process is basically a metal paid of rings with pins that stretch the legs. Think of being on a rack, continuously, for months and you've got some idea of what it is like. You can't take it off at all, or the legs will revert. And you'll get a few inches, but that's it. I'd go from 5'5" to 5'8'' for the pain of 100 childbirths. It would be easier for me to earn the money to pay for your lipo. Not that I would. I might as well earn the money to become a millionaire and go out with someone who wants me for my money.
But you expect us to have fake boobs and a lipoed ass Men like real women, not fake ones. We believe in healthy eating and exercise, not expensive, risky surgery. | |
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Posted: 5/28/2007 11:55:04 AM | I would also like to feel like I can put my arms around a woman. But that means, she is smaller AND thinner. Now I'm 5'5" and 140 pounds, so my BMI is 23. So if she was 2" taller wearing 4" heels, she would have to be 4'11", so she would need to be less than 113 pounds, or under 8 stone. So as far as I'm concerned, that rules out most of the women talking about this issue.So if women think height is an issue, then height-to-weight ratio (or BMI) should be important, too.
Just as a point of interest, one ex was 4'9", and she is under 6 stone. So I don't think it is too unreasonable to expect someone who is not a LOT heavier than me.
Perhaps I am wrong. But I've been out with tall women, and most people don't mind. But people DO mind when you're going out with a woman who makes you look like a model, and you're stocky to begin with.
I also have a suggestion. Why not put your weight in POF instead of selecting body type, and have the profile show your BMI? And why not add the BMI into the advanced search? Then men could select the women who is as thin as they want, and it would not be unfair to women, as taller women could be heavier and still have the same BMI. | |
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Posted: 5/28/2007 12:08:13 PM | | Yea as a personal trainer and fitness instructor, to me BMI means nothing. I'm , 5 8 185lbs only 6% body fat, but according to BMI I would be over weight for my height lol. They should have a weight category you can put in, although, I can guarentee a lot of people would BS there weight, as they already do there body type. I would say about 50-60% of clients i work with initially lie about there weight. Then of course when I go to weight them in, the scale tells me a much different story lol. I'd imagine because having people try to lie to my face about there weight, I'd assume it would only be worse on the internet. | |
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Posted: 5/28/2007 12:28:08 PM | | Oh and to Ellie...I never said there is nothing wrong with a taller woman ONLY looking for a taller man. Its just 90% of people who state a certain physical preference that is a must, go on to say, they wish they can find a man that can adore there inner beauty, and not look on the outside. How is a man supposed to see your inner beauty, with superficial statement such as that?Its not just height, its for race, build, eye color, hair color...it goes on. I would respect a womans profile more if she flat out said looks are very important to her and they are number 1 on her list. At least it shows me some honesty and seems reasonable, in the sense shes not asking for a guy too see her any differently. | |
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Posted: 5/28/2007 12:39:12 PM |
He's not asking why people have preferences or to justify them. He's asking why some people have their own specific physical preferences (women who want tall), but expect other people to put their specific physical preferences aside (look beyond my weight).
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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DO people READ??????????????????? | |
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Posted: 5/28/2007 12:39:23 PM | Good topic!!
I have dated guys shorter than I and guys taller than I. For some reason I find that shorter guys are more attracted to me than taller ones, maybe it's because of the judgment that they receive for being short. I guess they see my weight as a barrier that they can relate to, hadn't ever thought of it that way before!
I just want to find someone that is compatible with me, someone who I won't fantasize about choking to death, LOL | |
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Posted: 5/28/2007 1:02:04 PM | You have a cute face.... I'll date you... lol of course the physcal counts... Whoever said it didn't would be lying to you and themselves. It's based on facts really. These people who contradict themselves want to sound nice, but who doesn't? I'm not going to put on my profile, "only tall men allowed" I would be veiwed as shallow. I do have preferences, but I can overlook the physical if they are able to distract me with their sense of humour.
It's a superficial site. at a click of a mouse someone can delete your message without even replying. It's allowed. Women and men do it. And as previously stated, people want others to look past their physical self, but when asked to look past others, they don't. Selfishness. We are selective beings who all want to be accepted. | |
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Posted: 5/28/2007 1:07:44 PM | Being 6'2", height really isnt an issue with me, nor is weight believe it or not.
In fact I tend to be more attracted to a woman that is secure with herself physically no matter what her size is. But more so attracted to a woman who is beautiful on the inside.
Like I say in my profile, "everything else is but a mere shell that lends itself to vanity"
She could be a GODDESS, but if she is a beeeotch on the inside, I wont have anything to do with her at all. | |
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Posted: 5/28/2007 2:10:48 PM | Msg. 35:
I list tall as a preference but it is by no means a requirement.
Although it is nice to see someone state this, the problem with listing tall as a preference will definitely knock you out of a lot of contacts. Even if you make the initial contact, if a guy is not tall he will most likely figure that you are not really going to be THAT interested in him.
I would think that...unless your preference IS requirement...it's better to just leave them open and not list them as a preference. If you do list something as a preference at least also state that it ISN'T a requirement if it isn't.
I'm 5' 7" 135 lbs. and I'm comfortable with my size. But I also state in my profile that I'm looking for someone my size or smaller simply because that is what I'm looking for. If a woman is taller than me I don't have much of a problem with that, which doesn't matter anyway because they usually DO have a problem with it.
O.T. ...I too understand completely what you are saying and it happens all the time. It reminds me of a profile I saw just a few days ago of a woman who had "seperated" listed as her situation yet had "must not be married" listed as a criteria to be able to contact her. It's true that a lot of people want others to accept their preferences yet the other person is being shallow for having preferences of their own. | |
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Posted: 5/28/2007 3:21:10 PM | | looks count ,its about hair or no hair ,teeth or no teeth ,taller then me or slimmer them me ,how big ,how tight,we all no what we want but a lot wont admit they look at these things in there assessing | |
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